Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities The Official Infinite Crisis Spoiler Thread

Well, I can see that delving into Damage's back story *might* have been a bit of an albatross-- but Grant facing Dr. Polaris instead of the Human Bomb taking out the villain would've been a nice nod.

Then again, maybe it shows Damage's switching of 'family' from his abusive 'parents' (who were corporate shills anyway, weren't they?) to the FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

And though I hate to lose the Human Bomb, better him than Grant.

I agree, Mystery Lad. Besides, Human Bomb's been around for 60 years. He had a good run but it's not quite so bad as youngsters like the Black Condor and the Phantom Lady getting killed.

Phantom Lady in particular never really got a chance. Her debut was pretty recent, wasn't it? Glad that Ray and Damage at least will live to fight another day - those two have lots of untapped potential.

This Phantom Lady has been around at least since the early 1990s. I remember her appearing in the Will Payton Starman series. Of course the original goes back to 1941 or so.

Come on, her name is Phantom Lady. She'll be back in some sort of ethereal form, I'm sure.

So is does Grant become the new human bomb now?

Jamie

I've re-read IC #1 over and over and I'm still not sure what I think of it.

Jimenez and Lanning's art is faultless -- the double-page spread of the villains attacking is particularly impressive.

Johns does everything right on a technical level, keeping the story moving and the action exploding, without neglecting the characters themselves.

But just where is this story headed? If it wipes out the post-COIE versions of the big three, then that's fine with me. If it goes too far and turns back the clock to the pre-COIE universe, then I'll be annoyed. And if, in the end, it's just an excuse to kill off a lot of characters and shock readers, then I'll be angry and probably won't be reading a lot of DC six months from now.

One last thing I almost forgot: when I saw the Bat-Signal being projected onto the Spectre's chest, I thought they might be foreshadowing that Bruce Wayne is going to become the Spectre's next host. I might be completely wrong, I have no idea what's happened to the Spectre since GL: Rebirth, but I just thought I'd share that anyway.

I hope not. I don't really see the need for a change of name. It's not like we've ever seen anything to suggest they were particularly close.

Just (kinda) similar explosive powers is all. Plus the way he was talking to Grant kinda foreshadowed it a bit.

I'm not saying I like it but I wouldn't be surprised.

Jamie

I kinda wish the first issue had been a little less... graphic. I mean, did we really need 3 different pictures showing Phantom Lady being impaled on Deathstroke's sword? I think the single silouhette image was horrific enough. And, call me crazy, but I would think that Bizarro hitting Human Bomb once or twice would have killed him. Did we really need like 6 panels to do this?

I guess I'm just a little old fashioned. I mean, the deaths in COIF were moving, without being overly explicit. I hate this new trend in comics where the violence has to compete with mainstream video games and movies in terms of graphic violence. I understand the need, I guess, but I still feel a little sad about it. I miss the old days when I would have let my niece and nephew read any of my comics. Now, I have to really pick and choose carefully.

Plus, I feel a little... let down, I guess, that the new Freedom Fighters never really got the chance to shine anywhere before most of them were killed off. Heck, they never really got much chance to shine in their final battle. I would have liked to see at least a mini-series with them at some point. Instead, you just get the feeling of "well, we need to show how horrible this crisis is going to be, so let's roll out the cannon fodder that we never really used anywhere." Heroes should die heroic deaths. This just felt like quick murders.

Such a waste of potential...

Maybe if she'd been stabbed in the head instead of just under her ample, exposed cleavage... :rolleyes:

I second that. Which is too bad because I really do love Geoff Johns as a writer. I just felt like too much was happening and I was really, really confused by a lot of it. I'm hoping it'll get better.

Can't say I'm too impressed. Also have to agree that there's a shortage of perfect breasts in the world...why Phantom Lady?

And wasn't Deathstroke a borderline hero in the Nineties?

Newsarama's got a preview up for Perez's cover to IC#2.

My god but that man can put alot into a cover...

Wow...Jim who?

Jamie

Ditto man....

That one cover lists so many important moments...he is the master.

Jamie

Including three different versions of one in particular. Arguably THE most important moment in DC history.

Wondering about the sliver over PG's left shoulder... of her and Wildfire...?! Unless that's a reference to JLA v.1#147...

Yeah, I picked up on those moments fairly quickly.

Isn't that scene of her and Wildfire from the Original Crisis? Both of them were in the group that went back to the beginning of time to fight they Aunti-Monitor.

Jamie

WILDFIRE!?!?! I can't believe I didn't spot that the first time I saw the cover! Now I can't wait to see if these scenes are incorporated into the issue itself!

I'm betting if they are, it's only in flashback.

Oh and BTW (from the Marv Wolfman chat on CBR):

Azrael52: Didn't I read that you're doing a story in the "IC Secret Files and Origins?" Excited?
marvw: Yeah, it's a 44 page story that actually explains every DC continuity alteration for the past 20+ years. It's a crucial linchpin story for the "Infinite Crisis."

Jamie

Man, that glimpse of the old Legion HQ sooo made me love that cover.

I Didn't DC announce that Perez was actually doing some interior pages for IC itself. I think issue 2 is supposed to contain the first of these.