Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Visionaries of Tomorrow Costume Design sketches...up dated..TF added

I like it! The second one suits KK more...

What's left that we haven't seen here?
Maybe the SciPol page but I think that's the one Steve said he'd rather we find out about as we go along 'cause the notes on the page have info relevant to the long term in the series.

Thanks for letting us take a look at those too, it was a fanboy dream come true.

Always a pleasure YK!
Reckon I must owe you personally a sketch or two BTW!
I wil try to come up with some more bits and pieces for LW though - even though I think you;re right about the SP page.

That second costume for KK definitely looks great. I like the logo, too. While the first one is nice, it reminds me too much of Dragonmage.

Was there a page for Phantom Girl?

Also, is it possible to see the SP's with the notes blanked out?

No pressure.

Given the high quality of the new designs, Barry, I can't wait to see how you'll envision other classic Legionnaires if/when they pop up in the storyline, especially Bouncing Boy, Wildfire, and Chmeical King.

This is the best I've seen the Legion looking in years!

Good call Nightcrawler - I think there is one sheet with PG on I could post - check your mailbox tomorrow

Thanks Knightsfyre!

very sexy look for karate kid -- i heartily approve!

(always had a crush on him)

and i echo the sentiment that the girls got to show more skin than the boys -- and i want to see some equality in the sexes!

he he he

all in all, though, you've done a great job of updating the looks and keeping the team "teenager/early 20s" in terms of physicality

the "archie legion" drove me crazy because they were boppy smiling cheerleader things without any real sex (sex appeal, sexuality, sex identity, etc) ... but upon looking at the Grell Legion (for instance), i could see where that might be too much sex for the new book

the designs really pop, Barry ... i really wish there was some promotional work that could incorporate your sketches

Now if I could just learn to spell "Chemical"...

Barry -- I know that some artists, when coming onto a new series, do sketches of a variety of characters who don't end up making the final cut/roster, just to get a feel for things and "play" with the milieu a little.

Was there any of this for you and the Legion work, or did you only work up designs for the set of characters that Mark provided?

If there are sketches of "unused" Legionnaires, I'm sure we'd all love to see these as well.

You can use this link - above any post you make and edit those spelling errors out before any of us notice, Knighty!

And looking forward to it, Barry!

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Thanks, Nightcrawler -- it's especially galling for me to make slip-ups like this, considering I get paid to correct other people's spelling errors...

KK seems a natural for a group of anachronistic heroes -- who in a techno-utopia would focus on fighting with his hands? As such, this outfit is perfectly appropriate.

Hey Barry two questions if you have time:
1) Who decides color schemes for the redesigns? Is it collaborative or maybe more you or more the colorist?
2) Which characters' costumes that we've seen in previews will have the most significant changes made when we see the finalized versions debut in issue #1 and subsequent issues?

Thanks!
Monkey Eater Lad

I guess my choice for KK's uniform would depend on what his personality will be in the new series. Is he going to be a hot-head or is he going to be a tranquil contemplator with an inner storm.

If he's going to be more flashy and vocal, I guess I'd opt more for the 1st uniform, but with a different symbol, like a fist or something. Dragons definitely make people think of Dragon mage, but I like the higher collar and head band.

If he's going to be more of the quiet-type like the post boot, then maybe the "Gi" look would work better but I'd rather see him with loose pants as well. Something else else about the tight pants and high boots doesn't look right. Also, fist wraps aren't terribly practical for open-hand fighting/grabbing/throwing. They're more suited for closed-fist punching like Mui-Thai (preventing knuckle scrapes). But I guess that's just the practical, analyzing person I am, not trying to be a h8'er or anything.

Heck, just put him in some baggy pants and a "wife-beater" like Bruce Lee. Just joking, but I wouldn't mind seeing a sketch of KK in some traditional Chinese-type garb either (even though karate is more of a Japanese thing). Anyways, those are my random ramblings, carry on.

Thanks for the sneak-peaks, Barry.

Thanks as always guys!

To answer ONE of Monkey Eater Boy's questions - I guess I had most say where I had very definite ideas, but on the costumes where I was totally committed everyone got to chime in - as you may have gathered this creative team is a very collaborative unit!

To NOT answer the other - it's a definite 'wait and see'!

hey Barry so I am guessing Sunboy looks like the 2nd version here? In the preview pages and sketches there are some changes here and there. I guess I will have to wait for the final product.

And not that your busy enough but do you ever alter things slightly just for fun. I mean I know Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all have their famouse costumes. But in the Legion do you consider altering a costume for a storyline just cause Sunboy was getting tired of the last look? Nothing like the Wasp that changes costumes constantly mind you...but seeing a few characters have 2 to 3 different costumes sounds fun.


thanks Jorge

Speaking of different looks? Some thoughts on Element Lad.

I prefer to the blue/yellow version to the red/yellow version. But some folks have mentioned Dr. Fate here and there. Others say the red/yellow may conflict with Sun Boy?

Silver and blue look nice methinks.

Barry one more question. Can we sketches of the SPs??? Especially that cool bukly armor with the visor? thanks

Y'know, it's funny how a little stripe of color can change one's outlook on a costume...

I have to say I prefer the "red/yellow" split look of Sun Boy's pants/undersuit (as hinted at in Barry's sketches and shown in color by Jorg-El above) to the solid yellow version we've seen in the preview for issue #1. Now, if we could add red gloves or at least a red wristband above bare hands, that would complete the "retro" look.

Of course, I love all of Barry's costume designs -- even Sun Boy's, though this one'll take more time to grow on me.


To repeat a question for Barry I posted earlier (but which likely got buried by subsequent posts:

I know that some artists, when coming onto a new series, do sketches of a variety of characters who don't end up making the final cut/roster, just to get a feel for things and "play" with the milieu a little.

Was there any of this for you with the Legion work, or did you only work up designs for the set of characters that Mark indicated he wanted to use?

If there are sketches of "unused" Legionnaires, I'm sure we'd all love to see these as well. Mind you, you'll probably want to hold off on these, so as to not spoil any surprises...

Jorg El, how about some of Element Lad's more classic colors on the new costume?

Blue and green? Pink and white? Pink and gray?

I really like the silver and blue Element Lad costume!

Knightsfyre, I also prefer the sketch version of Sunboy's costume better...but honestly like them both. That is why I asked Barry if Dirk might change his look often?

joe mondo, the green/blue version may look good on E-Lad. I added the silver cause the gold had that element feel...thought silver would as well...something metallic.

Blacula i really like the silver as well.

Interestingly, I noticed that in the penciled but un-inked flying group shot/splash page image found on Yellow Kid's site, the central figure was Ultra Boy, not Cosmic Boy.

I imagine that the change was made to bring the three founders into the image, but it's interesting to see the variant versions.

Notice that there are two different versions of the pencilled page? Barry told the story of a misunderstanding in communication and originally drew the group as smiling when he was asked to NOT have them smiling. Personally I like the one where they look happy together.

...and thanks. I wasn't all that sure that anybody was looking, just reading that makes the effort worth it.

Ummm... wither Phantom Girl? Or at least the tantalizing tease of her preview sheet which Barry alluded to previously. If I can't actually have the comic in my hands, then I at least wanna have something to wet my whistle... especially considering how much I've enjoyed the sheets thus far.

BTW, Barry, I'm really pleased that you, Mark and Steve (and the rest) all worked so hard to get a release date which landed on my birthday. Even tho you don't know me, I'm thrilled that you all made such a huge effort to make my 30-somethingth birthday so special. Your dedication to your fans is truly astounding!

I mean, that is why the book's being released on that date, right?