Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Crisis and The Impact on the Legion

From that guy who brought you...that thread about Blonde Ayla...I present to you CRISIS...AND THE....LEGIONNNNNNNNNNN...(make an echo sound in your head...thanks)

Since the current JSA/JLA/Legion story line is talking about Crisis (on the infinitie earths ...notice the red skies in the latest JSA book) I think it would be prudent if we talked about What COIE did to the legion. Possible subjects

1)removing Superboy and Supergirl from the legion
2)Mon-El Being from the main universe Daxam and shunted into the Pocket Universe by the Time Trapper (yes this happend read his "origin" in Who's Who In The Legion).
3)Dev-Em being from Titan (yep again read his origin in Who's Who)
4)How long it took the effects of the crisis to take hold in the 30th century (there was still a supergirl statue in memorial long after she was removed from contiunity just see Superboy's funeral...but it was gone by the time GHOSTS in LSH 59 was published)
5)Millieum mini series and its impact on certain Supporting Characters.
6)Probably we can include certain 5 year gap stories or themes here to.

Let's get to work

I see all of this as destroying the Legion, something it has NEVER recovered from. I readily admit to the worthiness of both sides in the argument over whether the Legion "needs" a Superboy/girl character from the present day. Regardless, the origin of that Legion depended on Superboy. Without Superboy and Supergirl, that Legion couldn't really exist anymore. And the efforts to re-establish some new basis for the Legion have all ultimately failed. I think, as a result, most of the Legion from 1985 on was a long, steady decline into confusion, irrelevancy and impotence. It did give us one amazing story (Conspiracy) but I don't think it was worth it. In fact, I think Conspiracy was the exception that proved the rule. It was the Gotterdamerung of the Legion. I can't even speak of Millenium and what it did to my Laurel. Sob/choke.

Most of that was due to the John Byrne Superman revamp. The biggest effect of The Crisis on the Legion was the death of Supergirl.

i loved superboy and supergirl in the legion that's what got me so interested in these people ive never seen b4 on the cover of that Secrets of the Legion of Super-Heroes 1 with Superboy when i flipped and read it in the store i saw Supergirl with Superboy and i had to get it i had a major Supergirl Fanciniation and i was already Collecting The New Adventures of Superboy and knowing that Superman as Superboy hanging around his cousin years b4 they ever "offically" met thrilled me to no end.

"I see all of this as destroying the Legion, something it has NEVER recovered from. "

I agree i totally agree 100 percent. I think that's why the current storyline (lightning saga) gives me goosebumps. SOmething the legion hasnt in a while not like THAT.

Yeah, I agree that the Legion was pretty much destroyed by Crisis, though googoomuck is probably right that it was technically John Byrne's Superman revamp that did the damage rather than Crisis itself (though Crisis pretty much destroyed the JSA/A-SS/I,Inc., so it's hardly blameless).

I agree that the Crisis itself didn't destroy the Legion so much as the Superman revamp did. The very foundation of the Legion -- Superboy and Supergirl serving as inspiration -- was removed from the series. (Without a good foundation, a house tends to crumble ...)

I thought the Legion weathered Crisis very well for the first four or five years after. Aside from Supergirl's death (which resulted in a memoriable Brainiac 5 story), there weren't any really significant changes, at first. Unlike the rest of the DCU, particularly the JLA, the Legion was pretty far removed from it all.