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It's like this. I love Gail Simone's dialogue/writing. Have done for a very long time. Liefeld's drawings make my eyes bleed. I figure I'm not alone. Thus -- I've undertaken a (rather involved for a) 'quick fix' comic alteration project. Me, the comic, some brushes, and... ...black ink. I've got ten pages done thus far, and will be scanning the lot of them when I'm finished. Right now, I'm just building hype for the most sarcastic Artistic Protest Statement Project in...um, a long time.
---livejournal.com/~evilbeej/--- Jo wants the beer.
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i was waiting for this to start...
i giggled in dark sadness for all the titans fans when i saw liefield all over the cover at the comic store.
good thing (for me) i dont normally read the titans. hope the pain ends soon for you titans fans...it should liefields not the most consistant artist.
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good story,
as usual Liefeld as shown that he hasn't grown as an artist sense 1990. He still has no storytelling ability at all. All his panels as so bad. You can't tell what is supposed to be happening. Gail has come up with such a great premise for this new villian team she has come up with and Rob has done nothing to showcase it or improve it.
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When this was announced, I so wanted to give it a chance and see how RL had developed artistically since my experience with his stuff in New Mutants.
All I have to say is some things remain constant. And he still a moron too, from reading his postings on his web site.
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Feh to you all!  I'm looking forward to Rob's 2 issues of Titans... they should be very amusing.
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Feh to your feh! This is exactly the kind of art that will make me drop a title that is already pushing it. The story just isn't enough when the art is horrible.
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Unlax, sit back and have a good laugh at it. 
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Unfortunately my wallet can't afford these type of laughs. 
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True. Comics-- and everything ELSE, for that matter-- are WAY too pricey to continue buying stuff you aren't really enjoying.
TTs has consistently been in my personal top 5 since its debut, though, so I doubt Rob's fill-in will change that, especially since I really *am* looking forward to it. It's gonna be a whacked-out, hyper-armed, ankleless crazy madhouse!
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...though, really, unlax is a good word.
I've finished through page twelve now, and am half done with page thirteen. All the pages will be made available, sans 'art', online and downloadable. Liefeld's only, IIRC, supposed to last the two issues.
---livejournal.com/~evilbeej/--- Jo wants the beer.
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Don't Stop Peelieving
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Poor Gail. Or poor TASTE Gail, if she CHOSE to work with Liefeld on this arc; ditto for Byrne drawing her Superman stuff. Is she stuck in serious 80's-fangirl mode??? I was superSUPER disappointed when each of these runs were announced, because I knew that, as much as I love Gail's work on BoP and VU, I'd be skipping these. Doubly disappointing, these are the first two issues of the new TT book I've passed on. I looked through a copy of 27 at the shop this weekend... and it did nothing but affirm my choice to skip it. 
"Anytime a good book like this is cancelled, I hope another Teen Titan is murdered." --Cobalt
"Anytime an awesome book like S6 is cancelled, I hope EVERY Titan is murdered." --Me
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I like the "improvement". It's got that, I just got these using the freedom of information act look.
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Gina, is there any chance you can send these "fixed" pages to DC? Maybe you can send them with a list of names protesting Liefeld's so-called art.
And Tamper, you really never saw the recent X-Force and Shatterstar mini's that were in the stores? Maybe your eyes just naturally averted themselves.
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Tamper: Hee, yeah, s'why I'm actually using paint and not just digitally blacking them all out.
Fe: If you want to rally -- or find someone else to rally -- the People and get them to send quick notes saying stuff like 'Please don't ever hire Liefeld again' and 'Liefeld's art makes my eyes bleed', and adorned with their John Hancocks, that would hold a lot more sway than a printed list from one person.
---livejournal.com/~evilbeej/--- Jo wants the beer.
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feelin' hot hot hot
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Personally, I think Gina really improved what Linfield did. Good show girl!!
Yes, I am still harboring bad feelings about X-Force. How could you tell...?
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im still harboring bad feelings about the new mutants...hmmm mayeb he wasnt responsible for that books demise but oh well...im sure he didnt help.
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Is it just me or are these issues of TT getting universally panned because of his sloppy work?
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No...Liefield killed The New Mutants. Kilt em' but good. I remember reading an article on titanstower.com about him wanting to do the Titans and thanked god he never got the chance....but now he haaaaaas. Im may or may not have cried. PLUS this means that we arent likely to see the return of the Sasha Martens / Wiley Wolverman team anytime soon, which makes me sad. Still, the idea of a female Bucky kinda intrigues me for about...oh...a minute, but thats because I think that Female versions of heroes are waaaay better then the boring old male versions. Anywaaay.
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Yes, but when Liefied drew the New Mutants they really WERE the new mutants....how many other artists consistently draw their heroes with arms that hang below their knees?
Jamie Besides, the New Cro-Magmen just doesn't have the same ring to it...
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How 'bout The neoknuckle-draggers.
Well the thing is his male and female figures don't actually appear to be of the same species. Though there's many examples of such sexual di-morphism in nature, it don't occur in hominids.
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That's just a fancy way of saying they're fugly, right? Jamie
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I was thinking that the guys tend to look wide as a 1971 Lincoln Continental while the girls are about the width of an average Moped.
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Terrifyingly On-Topic.
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