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[b] Say, where was Everyday Girl's crush on IB revealed? I remember knowing about it, but I don't remember how I found out.
It was sort of an ongoing thing, but I think:

This

was the first time you were made aware of it.

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Thanks Ex, for making me aware of this thread I should have been aware of, but quite simply forgot!

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Ghost Girl should actually predate everyone else, for details not too widely known yet [I can PM you about it if necessary]
Got Kent's message and, yep, that's a darned good reason. smile Good stuff.

So I changed Ghost Girl's location and was able to crack the code with a bunch of new additions (ironically, eight of them of them were actually relationships that I wrote into Onevisions, but forgot about).

New adds:

- The Original LMB inspiration - Engine Joe
- Shadowplay in Candlelight Lass
- Sarcasm Kid
- Jerry
- Blacula
- Lone Wolf Legionnaire
- Suddenly Seymour (along with Audrey)
- Seahorse
- Crymsun (and his pal, Clovyr)
- Awkward Pause Boy
- Xben
- Legion Reference File Lad (Chaim Mattis Keller)
- and Arm Fall Off Boy.


I'm going to hold off on generating the image, though... because I want to see if I can wrap up the whole thing and just do a final version.


Major ones still outstanding - so if anyone can think any LMB specific connections - let me know, are:

- Bicycle Repair Man
- Blockade Boy
- Cleome
- Dave Hackett
- Director Lad
- Giant Robotic Lesbian (is she a real robot... did Loser Lad build her?)
- Gladys the Senient Disco Ball (wasn't she pregnant at one point?)
- He Who Wanders
- Kid Quislet (I desperately want him to be Quislet Esq.'s junior law partner wink )
- Kid Vudoo
- Kid Krypton
- Lance's Realm
- Legion Tracker
- Minesurfer
- Novelty
- Ram Boy
- Reboot (I think I need some sort of clarification on his nature. Is he humanoid... cyborg... an A.I.? And how do "Sanity or Madness" and "Glitch" tie into this?)
- The Red Bee
- Rickshaw
- Senor Widebottom
- Set
- Whitelighter
- and Zardi

Oh, and Cobie... scanning through Lord of the Oval... is Romaltus supposed to be your uncle?

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Yeah, Romaltus is Cobalt Kid's uncle, the younger brother of his father.

Blockade Boy's big moment in LMB history is when he saved SHAKES from the Royal Inquisitor during the Dark Stu Saga. At that point in time he was workign for the Office of Security if that helps somehow?

Giant Robotic Lesbian lives & works at SHAKES, so you can connect her to Semi and Vee. She's an actual alt ID of a poster whose origin purposely remains a msytery.

You could imply Director Lad & Actor Lad are colleagues?

Reboot is close friends with Actor Lad if you want to add him in there?

In a crazy way, the Red Bee is related to Lard Lad and Eryk Davis Ester. You see, the Hive are actually the progeny of Pornis (the entire race, as bread and inbred via the Hive Queens). The Red Bee is essentially a rogue Hive 'King' mutant that was too powerful and too indepenent to remain part of the Hive, and therefore shot off on his own. His origin in Bits had him at least a thousand years old (a couple thousand? It's in the 80 page giant thread), so you can group him going back that far. I can check later when I'm not at work. laugh

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In regards to Gladys, yes she was pregnant and last I knew we didn't know who the father was.
It seems Gladys has the morals of a man.

Anyways, I know for sure that both Lardy and I were involved with her, not sure who else did.

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How would you indicate a alternate reality child of a characters doppelganger that is actually from the future of that alternate universe...which thanks to the actions that he helped bring about does not exist anymore.


Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.

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In regards to Gladys, yes she was pregnant and last I knew we didn't know who the father was.
It seems Gladys has the morals of a man.

Anyways, I know for sure that both Lardy and I were involved with her, not sure who else did.
I did a story about this in the LMB 80 Page Giant that I thought was pretty good and pretty funny, but I don't think it went over too big with some of the people who created Gladys! So it may not be canon? Basically I think Gladys was hooking up with all kinds of people in the Security Office (not Cobalt though). But ultimately, the 'baby' was self-replicated since Gladys does not need another sentient to create a baby. It was a bit of a cry for attention.

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How would you indicate a alternate reality child of a characters doppelganger that is actually from the future of that alternate universe...which thanks to the actions that he helped bring about does not exist anymore.
What do you mean?

There are several of those on there already. They are outlined white with a white fill and white text connected with white lines.

Try adjusting your monitor resolution...

...Nothing?

Hmmm... keep trying. smile


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New Stuff:

- Added the Red Bee as the descended from Pornis and the Hive Queens (with a cool new connecting line to indicate Hive-based relationships)

- Added the fact that Kid Gender Stereotype Reversal II is the reincarnation of 20th century chess master, Bobby Fischer; which then allowed me to tie in:

- Lance's Realm (who is also infused with Charlie Sheen's Adonis DNA) as having a professional relationship to Bobby, and the fact that Lance bonded with:

- Rickshaw, as the two of them became friends when they undertook a mission together to solve the riddle of the mystical chess play called the "Octopi".

- I also added Rick as having a tight bond with Legion Tracker (more MMB than LMB, really... but any port in a storm)

- Added Giant Robotic Lesbian to the SHAKES block

- Added Nova Girl's parents (including the supercool character, her father Colonel Wellesley). I've never really seen much of Tamper Lad's writing... but I totally dig what I've come across during this project... I wish he were still active in LMB stuff.

- I suddenly realized that not only are Caliente and Frio not twins... but they're not even sisters! I guess that was just an assumption that seemed so natural that I just wrote it into my memory as something that I had read. Odd. Anyway, clipped off that connection, as well as their parents.

- I'm not sure whether I mentioned this one before but the deceased Lonestar Ranger is on there, as well, as having tried to force Caliente into marriage.

- Added Reboot as Actor Lad's friend.

- Added Cobie's uncle, Romaltus

- Added a professional realtionship between Arachne and Blockade Boy (it seemed like a good fit because of sort of "defensive" roles each held in the Security Office).

- Added Director Lad - not in relation to Actor Lad, but rather as part of nicely coincidental "holo-vid" block formed between Exnihil and the Primary Color Gang member, Blue Boy. A little more explanation:


- Yellow Kid had written that after Blue Boy gave up his life of crime he became a model/actor on the holo-vid show, Metropolis Place (think "Melrose"). Exnihil is the head of the holovid Production Company, Exnihil Productions (which put out the game shows "LEGIOPARDY" and "Survivor: Marzal".

- So what I did is make a "professional" relationship between Ex, Director Lad and Blue Boy as all being in "the industry" (I left Actor Lad out of that group - both for his Caliente hooks and the fact that all depictions I've seen of him seem to imply that he's more of a stage actor, anyway).

- Once I introduced the "Survivor" aspect, I was able to add both the host, Jeff Proty, and three other LMBers (Novelty, Language Arts Lad, and Floating Foxlike Creature) all of whom had been in the Survivor:Marzal Final Four with Lardy.

- Once I got those three in, I also added Floating Foxlike Creature's one-time crush on deceased LMBer, Foxy Loxy.


- Added Jerry's parents, Ji Daggle and someone that Jerry calls "the Time Trapper". I don't know if I buy that, though. That's a little like Barney Stinson's mother telling him his father was Bob Barker. wink

- Added Gladys the Sentient Disco Ball and her self replicated baby (I think it's a great idea, Cobie... and I haven't seen anything written to the contrary.)

-Added Ram Boy as being tight with Lash, and Lash's romance with Boy Zombie.

- I think I am going to add the Quislet Esq./Kid Quislet professional connection and then just retroactively introduce it the next time I do a Onevision thing. I sort of alluded to it in the LMB Monitor Board Symbol thread and Kid Q seemed to like the idea - even taking on the symbol as his avatar, so... shrug

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Which means....

This thing is super close to being done.


Of the other LMBers I had targeted:

- I'm going to hold off on CJ Taylor until whatever is coming up in Lord of the Oval.

- Similarly, I'll hold off on Zardi (pending whatever Abin eventually reveals).

- I think Bicycle Repair Man, Kid Krypton, SuperboyMMDJR, and Set have never really been involved in any LMB-y stuff (although with a name like "Set" - I really want him to be the actual Egyptian god. A contemporary to Bast... who just hangs out with mortals because we're just so darned much fun.)

- Similarly, although Dave Hackett and Minesurfer (and the late l.e.g.i.o.nJOHN) took part in the "What are your LMB powers" thread, I think that might be the extent of their involvement.

- I might throw in Senor Widebottom as being tight with Rhino, and group Whitelighter in with the Museum of Legion-Arts block .

- Possibly, I might put cleome as having a relationship to Suddenly Seymour's pal, Audrey, via "The Green". Cleome is a humanoid sentient plant in the LMB-verse, right?

- I feel like if I dig deeper I can find something for Kid Vudoo, as I think he used to be quite active (maybe a professional relationship to Semi, as a fellow tavern owner).

- But, sadly, I've got bupkis for one of my favorite posters... He Who Wanders. Even Cobie's "Written History" just sort of alludes to the fact that he's a heroic loner... a deep space wanderer ala Mon-el (entirely appropriate, given that "M'Onel" actually meant "He Who Wanders" back in the day) who helps out the LMB. That's totally cool... but not very conducive to linking him to another member. I think I'll have to wind up finding someway to tie in his Hot 100 project in.

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And here's the image with all the last few rounds of updates (I know I said I was holding off until the final one, but I'm playing around with resolution vs file size, trying to find the right balance that keeps it legible, but doesn't take forever to load) :

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Originally posted by Dev - Em:
[b] How would you indicate a alternate reality child of a characters doppelganger that is actually from the future of that alternate universe...which thanks to the actions that he helped bring about does not exist anymore.
What do you mean?

There are several of those on there already. They are outlined white with a white fill and white text connected with white lines.


Try adjusting your monitor resolution...

...Nothing?

Hmmm... keep trying. smile


[/b]
I spent 5 hours on this with no results. wink

There is a character introduced in the Oval story named Gear. He is the Earth 4 alternate universe version of Jon Em (the son of their Dev Em), who has come back from one of their possible futures to try and prevent certain things from happening / or change what did happen.

With what happened in the Oval, his future does not exist anymore and he is now stuck in the present.

He is basically a cross between Cyborg (or Cable) and Forge. Part machine and an insane inventor who can whip up just about anything he can imagine, given the right materials.


<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">He will be staying in the standard LMB universe and joining them after the Oval story is complete.</span></span>


Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.

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[QUOTE]There is a character introduced in the Oval story named Gear. He is the Earth 4 alternate universe version of Jon Em (the son of their Dev Em), who has come back from one of their possible futures to try and prevent certain things from happening / or change what did happen.

With what happened in the Oval, his future does not exist anymore and he is now stuck in the present.
OK... that should be an easy add. A question though... so it's not that the Earth 4 Dev or even the present day Earth 4 Jon doesn't exist any longer, right? It's just that the future which would have brought Jon to become Gear is gone? Is that about right?


A couple other notes, I noticed that I never gave the explanations for a few of the connections a couple posts up that only actually occurred in stories that I wrote myself.

First off: Blacula, Lone Wolf Legionnaire, and Suddenly Seymour as tight with dedman/Viridis. This was established in a story called "The Dead Man's Tale" in which Ex and Red Arrow go to a Halloween party at "dedman's Den" and meet some of the "spookier" residents of Legion World. Also appearing in that story were Fat Cramer, the Ghost of Numf-El, and Doctor Mayavale (Although Doc doesn't appear on this chart as he'd need a connecting line to everyone else, as we've all betrayed him. wink ) I placed Blacula as originating in the 20th Century (the 1970's, natch) but that can always be modified if it's not the case.

Secondly, the block of Awkward Pause Boy, Xben, Legion Reference File Lad, Arm Fall Off Boy, and Crymsun. These five became close buddies after, together, they were the only LMBers available to defend the LMB Headquarters in the story, "Who Was Middlefinger IX?".

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They both still exist in the here and now (LMB time). Just through the course of events, his future is no longer valid, so he cannot return to it.


Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.

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Ohmygod! That family tree thingy is like incredible, Mr ExNyquil. You deserve a lot of like congratulations and junk for doing it. Especially when you have to research all the like places Mr Cobalt has stuck his...

Well anyway, Gramps said you were asking about MR Zardi, I don't really like know a lot about him except that he's like six or seven days older than dirt, For Reals! His origins go back to a time before even Gram was born. And somehow he's got a history with Mr Lard-Butt that goes back to previous like incarnations and stuff. And he doesn't like Miss Shady Candles at all! Cuz she like freed some of his captive dragons. And his chief dragon, Brightbody Blackheart, has vowed to burn Legion World to a cinder once Mr Zardi has convinced Queen Hoo-Rah to resettle the Cacks from their dimension to his castle.

Oh and you need like a new kind of like line on your chart for when you connect Mr Cobalt to all of the girls he's "involved" with. Cuz he's like the biggest slut in the universe and junk.

Ohmygod I almost forgot and junk! One more thing you need to know about Mr Zardi is that he's really like powerful and with Gram and Mr STU gone. Well The LMB doesn't have much magic to fight him with...


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Whitelighter is Tempest's sister, but I need to check with her to confirm if that's still true on here.


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Whitelighter is Tempest's sister, but I need to check with her to confirm if that's still true on here.
It is not here, sorry, sis.


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OK... I've been in a bit of a writing slump for about a month now, so I thought I should revisit this project in the hopes that it might inspire me.

I did a fairly major overhaul here, incorporating the last three months worth of LotO developments, as well as everything from my own Long Klordny story, but I'm sure there are a lot of mistakes, so feel free to help me out here.


Here we go (click to enlarge):

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From the left:

- I cleaned up the whole "House of Rockhopper" section, and tried to add some Earth-4 stuff, namely: added the Earth-1 Blaine Fey and his marriage to the Evil Emperor Penguin, added Tempus as the Earth-4 Time Teller Lad.

- I used the Earth-4 Rockhopper Lass as a launching point to build out "The Covenant". I know it's not complete but I've got Rockhopper Lass, Helena Handbasket, Seth Gaterra, and the recently deceased Clarke Marlowe.

- Added Clarke's newly introduced brother, Phil Marlowe, as well as their presumedly deceased parents.

- Added the Durlan, Juj Rinhold as Lardy's friend (I know there is a lot more to him, but it's good as a starting point).

- QUESTION: I held off on adding C.J. again, because I'm a little fuzzy... so he's not related to Lardy and Eryk? It was just a red herring?

- QUESTION: I had Mordra listed as deceased, previously, but she turned up again in LotO... were reports of her death greatly exaggerated?

- QUESTION: I was going to add Whitelighter as connected to Tempest, but what is their relationship? Clearly they've worked together, but from LotO they don't really seem like friends necessarily.

- Added Serj's (Ontronik's) romantic connection to Helen, as well as his friendship with Lumberfox. Ideally, I'd also like to have a connection to Lardy as well through the Lard Knights (along with Dom Deluise... but for now, that'll keep).

- Added Gear as an alternate world Jon-Em (also new symbol for a person from the future, not yet added to the legend).

- Dev is dead!!! Well, I'm glad I spent six months making an action figure for him... that thing is now a collector's item... ebay, here I come. wink

- Added the fact that Ibby's old GF, Sara, has taken up the mantle of her deceased sister as Danger Damsel II.

- Added the Geequoan rogue, Chace, as temporarily causing Blaze to crush hard on him.

- Added the fact that heretofore mysterious orphan My Whee Fem is actually the daughter of deceased gangster, My Yeol Min, and his also deceased wife. Also added her brief emotional relationship with Exnihil. (A lot more in store for My... I just have to get off my ass and write some more.)

- Added the fact the Primary Color Gang member, Blue Cheese Lad used to work for My Yeol Min.

- Temporarily broke off the Lash/Handsome Family link, as well as the "Middlefinger" legacy, until I can figure out how to show it without crossing a bunch of lines

- Fleshed out the Handsome family with Molock Handsome's newly revealed deceased wife, and his two heirs - Junior Handsome and the deceased Lotta Handsome. Also showed that Junior has a professional relationship to both Ex and Director Lad, and that Lotta had a romantic relationship with PCG member, the Red Fist.

- Added a whole section for the Power Boy family of characters. The "Drinking Buddies" - Gravity Kid, Atomik, Taur-El, and Nam'Lor. Also the fact that Nike Samothrace trained him and that he is - at least partially - genetically based on the New God, Titus.

- QUESTIONS: Ok, so first off the placement of the "New Gods". Wikipedia places their creation as occurring during the passing of the Norse Gods, so I placed him in the "Middle Ages" block. Is that a fair statement, Peebs? Also, I added Disaster Boy as his unwilling servant from the same period. Is that true or is DB a more recent guy? Also... I'm a little fuzzy... they just killed one another, correct?

- Got confirmation that Viridis Lament is not, in fact, the same person as dedman. Nevertheless, the cemetery located near "dedman's den" is called "Mourning Greens". Hmmm....


So that's what I've got for this one. What is wrong?

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- QUESTION: I held off on adding C.J. again, because I'm a little fuzzy... so he's not related to Lardy and Eryk? It was just a red herring?
Yep! Total red herring! Brilliant, I know! smile

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- QUESTION: I had Mordra listed as deceased, previously, but she turned up again in LotO... were reports of her death greatly exaggerated?
Nope, she's still dead. That's her ghost! But--psst!--I'll betcha she's got plans to not be as dead anymore!


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Yep...red herring. Just cost one team mate. tongue


Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.

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Old thread bump, what?

Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
Another complicated bit:

Cobie had a short fling with Frio, Cali's sister. Later, Frio had a relationship with Gary Concord, who turned out to be an alternate Earth / reality version of Cobie.
Omg, I totes forgot about that! Lulz~

Also, Frio and Caliente aren't related - they're just close friends. You know... before Frio went all weird and evil. wink Although, I think she went nice again after all that trying to take over the universe nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Caliente
Also, Frio and Caliente aren't related - they're just close friends. You know... before Frio went all weird and evil. wink Although, I think she went nice again after all that trying to take over the universe nonsense.



Yeah... I finally found that bit near the end of my work on all this:

Originally Posted by Exnihil
- I suddenly realized that not only are Caliente and Frio not twins... but they're not even sisters! I guess that was just an assumption that seemed so natural that I just wrote it into my memory as something that I had read. Odd. Anyway, clipped off that connection, as well as their parents.



See all the time you could save me if you post more. smile

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I could have.... but then you wouldn't have gotten to discover all sorts of fun things out! wink See - I'm helpful.

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