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"To sleep-perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub."
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-Or maybe I should just call this the "How to Bring Dream Girl Back from the Dead" thread.

It's clear to me they will bring her back. It's just a question of how. So, any theories out there?

I'll posit that it has something to do with Naltorian physiology combined with her own precog powers that makes death unique to her. It could be revealed that Naltorians have a survival instinct when faced with the threat of death, much like how a possum plays dead when attacked. For people of Naltor, their bodies physically goes dead temporarily. Her precog powers force her to await the proper trigger that convinces her subconcious that she is safe and is allowed to awaken and resume signs of life. Maybe Lemnos is needed to activate that trigger since his power works on some subconcious level.

Too hokey?

What do others think?

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Some daft thoughts:

- Brainy plans to build a Dreamy robot and transfer what remains of her memories and personality into it, and he needs people with psionic powers to help effect the transfer.

- Or it turns out that Lemnos captured the scientific knowledge of Colu's greatest minds before he destroyed them, and somewhere in that databank is the secret of life vs. death.

- Or Brainy somehow forces Lemnos to reverse-brain-fry his Mom, and Brainy and Mom combine their unparalleled intellects to resurrect Nura.

I do think Atom Girl will also play a key role in it somehow.

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Lemnos makes Nura's body forget that it died.

That would be something like Wile Coyote running off the cliff and staying suspended in air until he realizes where he is - i.e. a great tradition.

Nothing is too hokey for Nura! The possum idea isn't that far-fetched IMO - although the personality transfer might make for a better (albeit creepier) story. I guess transfer to a Protean is out now, or we'd see Tasmia stalking "Nura" with a carving knife and marinade.


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Clicked on this from Last Posts without realising it was a LSH thread (where DOES the "ay, there's the rub" come from? It's familiar, but not from legion-related stuff)

So, Lash, dropped Waid's Le... book over this yet?


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#87315 01/23/06 02:14 PM
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For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.

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#87316 01/23/06 02:29 PM
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She isn't dead. Brainy abducts Lemnos so that he can "save her", implying that there IS something there to save.


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#87317 01/23/06 02:36 PM
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For those not in the know re Lemnos:

What is this dude's speciality again? Time travel or resurrecting the un-dead?

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The quote is a really appropriate choice because Nura was shown to be a Shakespeare fan. It's from Hamlet when he's contemplating suicide. "To be or not to be...."

Aside from a little blood, her corpse doesn't look like it was crushed to death. Maybe she's only dead because she thinks she's supposed to be. The loss of her visions literally scared her to death.

Remember Brainy told her that the whole future could shift just by making unexpected choice. So far he's made one by not giving up on her. She just needs one more.

I think it'd be fun to see Brainy make some sort of Faustian deal with a devil. Would the team tolerate that?

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Hey, whatever happened to the prediction that the Naltorian army would be the first to die in the war with Lemnos?

Didn't happen did it? At least not yet...


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At the heart of this is a question I have had since her "death." -- Shouldn't every Naltorian know when he/she will die? If so, Nura's apparently real confusion before her "death" should mean she isn't dead, right?

Nura saw blackness/void at a certain time in the future. She seemed genuinely puzzled by this. If this were normally what Naltorians see when they die, she should have known that, right? You couldn't keep something like that secret in a culture of precogs. Therefore, the void should indicate something more unusual, like Owl Lad's excellent "Possum" Hypothesis, or some massive shift in probable future outcomes.

What I hope is that, regardless of Dream Girl's future status, these plot issues get dealt with in an interesting way.


...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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For those not in the know re Lemnos:

What is this dude's speciality again? Time travel or resurrecting the un-dead?
I can't remember! wink

He can manipulate memories.


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#87322 01/24/06 11:13 AM
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her coma is brought about by shock and head injury. lemnos will eliminate the memory of the accident lessening the mental shock and Violet will perform micro-brain surgery on her.
wait-- is she dead or in a coma? or "frozen" a split second before death by the force field?


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Why make it so complicated? It's a well established literary principle that the kiss of a handsome prince will awaken a sleeping beauty. Simply find a prince and let him at her.

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