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I'd rather see the Legion without any ties to 20th century DC continuity, for various reasons... but still, there's something about this idea I like somehow.

I'm not opposed to Kara joining.

It's the name change.

What he said. We can only hope that there'll be a third series seperate from the ongoings or that her series will recieve the name change.

If they use the Power Girl Kara then I might be able to accept it. Shunting her off to the future is a way to keep her away from the new Kara in the new Supergirl title. Assuming, that is, they both come out of the Crisis as seperate people.

But I do not want to see any Super... and LoSH title. Leave it alone as LoSH as it should be.

If they do this, and renumber it in the 500s, I'll be even more irritated.

Not very excited about this. DC has just screwed the Legion so badly over the years.

They don't understand why the Legion is failing. They don't understand the Legion means different things to different people...because there have been so many versions. Yet they continue to choose a version that is not the most popular.

The Legion evolved to a certain very popular point...yet they can't recapture that. They continue to throw it back to what it was. ugh.

It depends what all this means. It depends how Infinite Crisis affects the membership. But if it's the same Legion we've been seeing all this time...plus Supergirl? I am out.

I've read her series...she does nothing for me. Dislike the name change. I rather have Laurel Gand any day of the week.

You know it makes me angry because Waid said in an interview he is trying to revive the Legion. Something else else about fans complaining and it's just bad for the Legion. yet both his Legion's IMO have been very limiting...ZH Legion and this one.

The Legion doesn't need Superboy, Supergirl, or Super anything.

I think the March issue of LSH will be entitled Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes #16. The dog that's wagging this tail wears a skirt.

- Supergirl #1 160,536 copies (including reorders). Now in its THIRD printing
- Supergirl #2 111,869 copies (including reorders) SOLD OUT

It's possible the Legion will cross over into her solo book once in a while, but I can't see three separate titles coming out of this. As long as it remains in Waid & Kitson's hands and fits into their "grand scheme", I'm perfectly okay with it. I wonder if it will go through a change editors, though.

Also the good news on the Supergirl title is Greg Rucka is writing it. I love his Wonder Woman...and I love the Supergirl connection to the Amazons.

I suggest all you guys start emailing DC and tell your friends too as well. We may need an editorial change or something.

I look at the Teen Titans. They next to Legion where my fave DC title of the 80's. I didn't read them in the 90's. Sure I would pick up a book a few times a year...and cringe. The Geoff Johns recent relaunch of the series captured the Titans I like. It was similiar to the high selling Titans of the 80's...yet different. This is what the Legion needs...badly.

This just in ... Teen Titans is being renamed.

SUPERMAN AND THE TEEN TITANS.

I so hope this a joke

Mostly unsupportive comments here and elsewhere have inspired me to unconditionally favor this development.

I don't know... I'm honestly not against it. We've all heard that back in the old days of the original Adventure-era Legion, having Superman/Superboy on the cover supposedly doubled sales on any comic book. Over time, the Legion was able to grow its own fanbase and eclipse the need for Superpeople.

It's not a dissimillar situation to what we have today. More people today buy the various Super-books than Legion. People buying Legion are: Us -- mostly the longtime Legion fans. New readers are minimal. Maybe the inclusion of a Supergirl will in the short term help create a brand new fan base, helping ensure long term Legion survival.

I'm in the same boat with a lot of you...warry about Legion ties to present day DCU. But when I think about the reasons for that fear, I realize it's not because it doesn't work, it's completely out of fear of a new Byrne-style screwing over. But dang it, living in fear sucks. Some of my favorite Legion stories involved Superboy or Supergirl, and the time travel aspect of the series was a major factor in my enjoyment!

If anything, the Legion has been much weaker (imo) since the loss of Supergirl, and then Superboy. I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way. Being against the inclusion of (any) Supergirl is kind of like a person who got dumped hard, and is afraid about starting dating again. Maybe you think can avoid getting hurt if you stay alone for the rest of your life, but what kind of way to live is that? At some point we have to get back on that horse and let some Super back into our Legion.

As far as people being against the "Supergirl" in question being the new SG, don't forget a character can be a lot different depending on how handled by the writer, and this SG is getting 2 new writers... so don't count the character out yet based on not liking her so far. All the elements are in place for her to be a great character -- in the vein of the original -- it just hasn't happened yet.

I couldn't care less about a name change. That's just a detail. My question is, is the story going to be any good? If it is, then it has my support.

I have no objection to Supergirl if she's not any more important that the rest of the characters. One issue's fine; a whole series isn't.

I think it's too soon to make asumptions, though. In that interview mentioned a few pages back Rucka says “I’m not looking at doing a bunch of crossovers and seeing who’s going to be guest-starring this issue. That’s just not the direction I’m interested in taking her."

This gives me hope.

Well said, Arachne.

I'd rather Supergirl simply join the team, and be featured on some covers, than to give her top billing.

Giving her top billing changes the book's identity. It becomes part of the Superman Family. Which is great for sales, but bad for those of us who simply aren't interested in their adventures.

Making her just another teammate is like having Superman in JLA. He's A star, not THE star.

Supergirl's first task: arm-wrestling with Ultra Boy

Supergirl's second task: beachwear shopping with Imra

I tend to agree with those that theorize that the Supergirl in question will be the character currently known as Power Girl.

Since we assume the title will still be by WaK, we can only assume that the quality will remain regardless of any title change, permenant or temporary stunt.

And even if this Supergirl will get top billing and appear in every issue, so what? I discovered and fell in love with the Legion when the same went for Superboy. And even in the SLSH era, there was plenty of room for other characters to shine.

If Supergirl can help sales, so much the better, especially if DC has designs on breaking into the Wal-Mart/Target/etc. chain store market.

I'm certain that whatver adult bought me my first Legion comics did so because is said Superboy and... on the cover.

For those encouraging the addition of Supergirl to save the title from cancellation-- cancellation is NOT an issue.

LSH was the 54th highest-selling book on the top 300 for October.

Way, way, wAAAAAAAAAAAy beyond cancellation status, especially for DC.

when he says that she isn't going to interact with the rest of the DCU as she's doing in the current (awful, imvho) arc by jeph loeb.
anyway, re-reading the interview i think that i could have been wrong too.

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i just don't think that DC would publish two series using the name "Supergirl" in their titles but featuring two different characters with the same name. From a marketing perspective, it just doesn't make sense.

wasn't there a time, not so far ago, when DC had two or three supergirls at the same time?
i agree with you about the marketing part. but what if DC brings back the multiple earths with infinite crisis? if so, the legion could live on another earth (say, earth prime) with their own supergirl. weren't there, before CoIE, a few series set on alternative earths like earth-2?

I...I don't know what to think. Can someone think for me? Does this mean the superpets are back too? Is Supergirl gonna make out with her horse again?

Now that would boost sales...

My initial reaction was not too thrilled, but why condemn it before reading? If I'd heard about Andromeda before she apppeared, I would have been very negative - but she became a favoured character.

Maybe the title "change" is just for one issue - or maybe DC is getting into the Grandin Gender Reversal Punch - the Whip, Bulleteer, Supergirl & the LSH....

Some of my very favorite Legion adventures were in a book called, "Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes". The Cockrum era, the Grell era, Jim Shooter's second run, Levitz's first run...

A lot of great comics in there. Superboy was a member, and around more often than not, but he never overpowered the presence of the other Legionnaires; he was just another member for the most part.

If anything, I see the title change (assuming it lasts...assuming any of the post IC changes last...) as a nice homage to a great period of the Legion's past. Any nervousness on my part comes from the character herself, not the title.

i'm not sure what to make of this either !? but with the upcoming issues of SUPERGIRL [ featuring the 'original' KARA !? from it's description ! ] we may only get a cross-over for a couple of issues !!??

and at the moment i have COMPLETE faith in what MARK and BARRY have created so far, in this LEGION re-launch !

i REALLY don't think they would have spent all this time and effort on creating a new RICH backstory and great characters, for them to throw it all away, without good reason !

[ and although i could be wrong ] i reserve judgement until a little nearer the time .......

Matthew.

I completely agree with this... I can't believe that Mark & Barry would have brought us this far just to revert to all of the disasterous pitfalls of the post pre-boot Legion. I too reserve judgement until...

Whatever the outcome, you have to admit with the "previews" we've seen, it's gonna be interesting!!!

I've always been in the no-super-people-in-this-title camp, but even if LSH is in no danger of immediate cancellation, bringing in more readers is always a good thing. And I think Supergirl could do that. However, it's very important that she doesn't overwhelm the title. She should be one of the members of the team, not the star.

Oh, well. Better Supergirl than Superboy, I say. (But boy, would I ever have prefered Andromeda!!!)