Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Let's talk about LSH #10 (potential spoilers aplenty)...

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I don't have enough time to read through all these pages (at work) but lemme just say:

Oh. My. God.

re Nura:

Oh no you di-ent!

Are we sure that that's Dreamy? The page before the one with the arm sticking out of the wreckage (Barry is there anyway you could put numbers in) Lyle grabs Dreamy's shoulder but she turns around and says who? in Interlac. Or is this another red herring?


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The hairstyle (its way too short) is all wrong and she has a weird baseball-diamond like mark on her forehead...That can't be Dream Girl

LAM, you really really need to buy a copy of the book or borrow someone's and read it. Honest.

No that's not Nura in the panels above but there IS a shot of her (or at least we're led to believe it's her) a couple of pages later.

No I won't scan and post the page in question because it's the big shocker of the issue and not everybody has had a chance to read it yet. I know we discuss all the particulars but it's still not the same as flipping through the pages in sequence and enjoying the experience for yourself.

So is Dream Girl or Tatooed Face Girl dead?

I actually briefly considered that the fact that Lyle sees a couple of people in the crowd after the building's collapse that he mistakes for Dream Girl might mean that the arm sticking out of the wreckage wasn't Dream Girl either. But that seems very unlikely...

wow! 13 pages of comments so far. Well most of the big stuff has been touched so I am going to focus on smaller moments in the book.

(1) Glad to see Star Boy stop trying to mix it up with the big guy (he was swinging uselessly on his arm) and just increase the guys weight instead. I wonder if that is because Cos showed up and gave battle instructions?

(2) Elysion- I am still not sure why he passed out in the cold. He was wearing a duster in a very hot environment, but the cold knocked him out. Did his environment shielding fail, or was that a comment on the nature of his power. if it's a power thing I guess the Legion can always imprison him in Australia.

(3) Micro lad- I noticed Light Lass was seating on his shoulder during the meeting. Micro lad and Light Lass seating in a tree....

(4)Lemnos- I am still amazed by the number of non-human folks in the background of Otherspace. I keep thinking it will mean something.


(5) Now for you Mr. Kitson. I have noticed that there is a lot of emphasis on button pushing in this series. Lemnos presses a button to activate the suicide bombers. Those bombers in turn press a button to activate the bomb. Last issue Invisible pressed buttons to reroute Cos. and of course Brainy has had button pushing highlighted twice (to help remember Lemnos, and to let everyone hear Cos). So, Mr. Kitson, has that always been your trademark or just something you cooked up for the LSH? Thanks.

One other thing I noticed. When Elysion came through the transmatter, Cham's antennae were activated. So both Elysion and Lemnos are from races that Cham hasn't encountered before. Now, I realize the galaxy is a big place but it seems strange to me that as a member of a galaxy spanning group, that Cham has not encountered at least one member of either race before. Perhaps this otherspace has been another dimension all along?

I think Cham instinctively scans most individual living things capable of independent thought that he hasn't previously met- especially if they have to be considered potential threats - whether he's encountered their species before or not - for example, as no two humans are exactly alike so every single one of them has aspects that would interest him. In the cases of Elysian and Lemnos, they seem rather unusual beings so they would have been natural subjects to scan.

I'm assuming Cham's brain works rather as ours do when we see a bug - if we recognize the species, we probably show little interest, but if we spot something that seems unusual we might instinctively take a closer look at it.

Not sure if that helped clear things up or not!

Maybe Elysiun is a mutant life form and that makes him exotic enoght to cham´s antennae to react. Same goes for Lemnos

I think it kind of makes sense that Cham would automatically scan individuals of "higher species" but only new types of lower species.

One thing I'm curious about is whether he is limited to transformations into living things or whether he can disguise himself as non-living things (e.g. rubbish cans) as well.

Good question - we haven't established that have we?

Actually, you did several issues ago. He said he could turn into something that looked like a wall, but would still be made of "what do you call it? Flesh!" (Although I like the idea of a gender-neutral character, deep down, Cham will always be "Chameleon Boy to me).

Jumping into the fray kinda late, I enjoyed this issue and the entire series--it and the two JSA titles are my current favourites. I do hope Dream Girl turns out all right. She was never my favourite, but I wouldn't want anyone killed off so soon.

What I'm wondering is how the rest of the Legion will get back to earth now that the Transmatter has been destroyed. Will they have to take a commercial "flight"?

I think ..If Nura say to Brainy "You feel different when we're married" in number two,
she can't be dead.

The Legion's Transmatter being destroyed shouldn't be that big a deal, right? It was shown last issue that it was a fairly common method of travel, and that the Legion hardly has the only available one. More important is the fact that the Transmitter is destroyed, and the Legionnaires left on Earth can't communicate with those on missions (or they with each other.

Just read it. Best issue since what #6 I think. (my fave of the run so far is #6 this comes close)

I echo lots of the thoughts here especially Blacula. I gotta post before him from now on.

Elysion and Terror Firma rock. Cos splitting the team up like that...very old school. I liked it. (My school isn't as old as others).

HQ destroyed? Yes! Hey I hope this is just part of my theory that Waid/Kitson made this seem like an early Legion to start but slowly...rather carefully are going to bring them up to speed. In other words that silly Adv. era upside down spaceship is gone! Now give me a new HQ!

Only pet peeves are my top two Legionnaires. Ultra Boy looks smaller than a Backstreet Boy and Cham...that blank expression...asking all the questions? O' Cham were art thou? Cham is Wile E. Coyote not Tweetie bird.

This is one of the top issues of this series so far!

Questions?

I wonder if any brave heroic teens are going to rise to the call on Earth against Elysion?

Any good ole favorites? (Wildfire?!) Or a new character all together? Do we get to see any young brave SPs (Erin, Dvron, Gigi?!) against Elysion?! I hope all of the above.

Quick side note about Elysion. Any greek myth fan knows it's part of the Underworld.

From Wiki...

"The Elysian fields were the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous."

But Wiki also states...
"Elysium is an obscure and mysterious name that evolved from a designation of a place or person struck by lightning, enelysion, enelysios."

Great name for a villain...especially after he killed a hero. It was a only a matter of time before he killed a hero. But I wonder if Garth is going to fry his arse to a cinder?! Hmm.

It is surprising that none of the legionnaires seem to be any more useful than they have been so far.

I mean, when you're left with Brainy and Invisible Kid, neither of which is exactly a powerhouse, surely some of the kids in the crowd are actually more effective in combat than they are.

I wonder if Theena might be the key to communicating with the rest of the Legion?

EDE beat me to it, I thought earlier that Theena might be the key to keeping the groups in contact.

After re-reading this issue I felt that Cos's character was just used as a story prop - "Now Imra will read Elysians mind" - and his 3 recap panels both read like it was what Waid wanted him to say but Waid never got around to phrasing it in Cos's 'voice'.

Minor complaints about an otherwise brilliant issue.

I thought that seemed weird too. It reminded me of A Charlie Brown Christmas where Charlie Brown says "Now the script girl will hand out the scripts."

Hmm. Cosmic Boy. Charlie Brown. Coincidence? I think not!

As long as I'm at it... if there's an open spot on the team, could she be the one to take it?

"How will the stranded Legionnaires get back home?"
I have an idea. It's spelled D*wnst*r.
Think about it. She's capable traveling at FTL speeds, can track anyone, and would be just the right person for the job.
Or, just maybe, she and Shikari could operate as a team. That would be fairly unique. (Of course she'd have to be the more experienced of the two.)

wait...why are people speaking in interlac? i mean dosn't everyone speak interlac ...and we are reading english translations. if some of these characters are speaking interlac what is the new default language that we are reding every month. the legionaires now speak english in the future?

i guess the postesr on the walls are in english not interlac. did i miss something....some signage in the crowd is in terlac. whats on the view screens or computer screens these days?


one other explanation could be that these characters speak by popping out letters that people can see and read but....i doubt it.

NOOOOOOOOOO! Not Dream Girl!!!!

Another great issue. Glad to have Barry back on the pencils. The humerous bone was a good play on words.


A couple of other things stuck out in my mind. Normally, I just enjoy the issue but I had questions about people referring to the feet measurement in the 30th century. I'm from the US and even I agree that not using the metric system is stupid. Also, if those walking bombs could kill anyone within 8 feet, exactly HOW did Lyle escape? Did he open Elysion's prison in exchange for not getting vaporized?

My predictions for the next issues are:
1) Dream Girl is not dead (it can't happen)
2) Brin is alive and doing something sneaky
3) Reboot will come back and post about how horrible the series is by pointing to the sales figures