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I hope I'm wrong too. Of course, there is possibility that during the time inbetween when the JLE started its plot and Superman travelled to the future Garth and Imra had the girls. I've got an idea they've been staying with Imra's family since the insanity started.

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I'm not even convinced that Graym exists. I mean, he might, but I wouldn't put any money on it.

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You mean, he's an urban legend? Like Dennis Calero?

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i must have missed something during lightning saga and countdown. was it ever explained how karate kid was revived and with the team again? can't they revive him that way again?
it was so great to see him in that costume and on covers again, fighting batman... i was disappointed to hear of his death by giffen in countdown. AND why is his death never mentioned by the Legion in Lo3W? Duo Damsel refers to her countdown death.
i dunno. this is only one of a bizillion unanswered questions about this "Johns Legion". i don't want stories that are just about continuity, but i do need some consistency in plotlines.
if it's too obvious they are just making crap up as they go along, it's hard to care. (re: wildfire in red tornadoes body; lightning rod containing "the last legionnaire"; Dawnstar in a thanagarian lesbian relationship; ...etc.)


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I don't want stories that are just about continuity, but i do need some consistency in plotlines. If it's too obvious they are just making crap up as they go along, it's hard to care.
I totally agree. There used to be a preventative mechanism for this sort of thing. They were called 'Editors'.


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i must have missed something during lightning saga and countdown. was it ever explained how karate kid was revived and with the team again? can't they revive him that way again?
it was so great to see him in that costume and on covers again, fighting batman... i was disappointed to hear of his death by giffen in countdown. AND why is his death never mentioned by the Legion in Lo3W? Duo Damsel refers to her countdown death.
i dunno. this is only one of a bizillion unanswered questions about this "Johns Legion". i don't want stories that are just about continuity, but i do need some consistency in plotlines.
if it's too obvious they are just making crap up as they go along, it's hard to care. (re: wildfire in red tornadoes body; lightning rod containing "the last legionnaire"; Dawnstar in a thanagarian lesbian relationship; ...etc.)
They dealt with the KK death in the issue of Action comics where Garth takes the bodies back (the one that directly followed the Legion arc). I imagine it will come up again as there are a lot of unanswered questions, still.

I'm not sure, but weren't a lot of the off-the-wall Lightning saga things from the Meltzer JLA issues as opposed to the John's JSA ones. I know for sure the Red tornado reveal was. Not that it excuses it, but I'm perfectly happy to quietly sweep ANY and ALL of Meltzer's DC work under a carpet and then stomp on said carpet, then burn the house down for good measure.

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[b] why is his (KK's) death never mentioned by the Legion in Lo3W? Duo Damsel refers to her countdown death.
They dealt with the KK death in the issue of Action comics where Garth takes the bodies back (the one that directly followed the Legion arc). I imagine it will come up again as there are a lot of unanswered questions, still.[/b]
A statue would have been nice.

"Dawnstars thanagarian lesbian relationship" When/where was this done? Was it in L3W? I missed it.

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It was hinted at in the Lightning Saga.

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I always was naive.

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Hi Naive.

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No wonder she was always giving Wildfire the cold shoulder! Now that he knows, all he has to do is whip up a costume with boobs on it and he/she's in with her!

And while we're on the topic, I was watching a Roseanne rerun last night. The one where Nancy comes out as a lesbian.

Nancy: I met her at Rodbell's makeup counter. She does makeovers.

Roseanne: Well, she certainly is thorough!

I laughed and laughed!


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Yeah, about the containment suit, someone already took care of that.

Warning: full frontal nudity on Dawny.

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Yeah, about the containment suit, someone already took care of that.

Warning: full frontal nudity on Dawny.

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=386737&GSub=83753
Wow her nipples are... wow.

EDIT: That sounds really creepy, but seriously they look like the tops of baby bottles.

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Worst Case Scenario on Missing Legionnaires

Sensor Girl: Grieving over Val's second death.
Element Lad: Insane.
Matter-Eater Lad: Political prisoner.
Magnetic Kid: Dead.
Dream Girl: Atmos' sex slave.
Chameleon Boy: Political prisoner.
Quislet: Dragged back to home dimension.
Tyroc: Gone the way of Myg. (Not dead, just against the Legion)

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Where does it say that KK was brought back to life?

I just assumed he was not killed yet in this reality and Jeckie became Sensor Girl because it just works better.

And Dawnstar's relationship wasn't really 'hinted at'.
The girl on Thanagar was pretty explicit, I thought.
Dawny had amnesia though, so maybe she's done with that part of her life.
Someone here once said that females are more fluid in their sexuality than males.

And there's already a 'Wildfire' in a female containment suit.
HER name is Wildstar.


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Worst Case Scenario on Missing Legionnaires
Element Lad: Insane.

Dream Girl: Atmos' sex slave.

Tyroc: Gone the way of Myg. (Not dead, just against the Legion)
'Worst Case Scenario' is right and I certainly hope these aren't true.

ELad has already been insane, in the Lost saga and I never want to experience that again.
He's just way too powerful for that.

Mysa was a sex slave to Mordru, among other things.
The very idea that Nura wouldn't see something like that coming and stop him is just disgusting and why I can't stand her in this incarnation.
ugh

And I don't want to see the first black Legionnaire become a villian!
They've done enough rotten things to him already.
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Originally posted by Candle:
Where does it say that KK was brought back to life?
Lightning Saga. KK refers to the founders making a big sacrifice to bring him back, and being in their debt. Presumably one of the other myriad ways of reviving the dead was used in his case, rather than the lightning rod.

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[b] Worst Case Scenario on Missing Legionnaires
Element Lad: Insane.

Dream Girl: Atmos' sex slave.

Tyroc: Gone the way of Myg. (Not dead, just against the Legion)
'Worst Case Scenario' is right and I certainly hope these aren't true.

ELad has already been insane, in the Lost saga and I never want to experience that again.
He's just way too powerful for that.

Mysa was a sex slave to Mordru, among other things.
The very idea that Nura wouldn't see something like that coming and stop him is just disgusting and why I can't stand her in this incarnation.
ugh

And I don't want to see the first black Legionnaire become a villian!
They've done enough rotten things to him already.
frown [/b]
My sentiments exactly, in my mind I thought (with the UP in it's current state) some militaristic faction would be trying to use Nura so that they could be a step ahead, either that or she is simply on the run. But that's only me...

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Well I did have an idea for a Best Case Scenario if Jan goes insane. What if he developes god-like powers and revives the ones who fell during Lo3W, until someone snaps him out of it.

And, this has been bothering me for some time. Is his name pronounced Jan or like "Yan".

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Lightning Saga. KK refers to the founders making a big sacrifice to bring him back, and being in their debt. Presumably one of the other myriad ways of reviving the dead was used in his case, rather than the lightning rod.
Thanks.
I tried so hard to get all of that story, too.
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He was pretty destroyed by Nemesis Kid.
I guess anyone is redueable.


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QUOTE]Originally posted by Candle:
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Tyroc: Gone the way of Myg. (Not dead, just against the Legion)
'Worst Case Scenario' is right and I certainly hope these aren't true.
I don't want to see the first black Legionnaire become a villian!
They've done enough rotten things to him already.
frown [/b][/QUOTE]

He's probably still in limbo on Marzal.

Wonder if Thom's mission may involve Vril Dox II
establishing Ren Daggle as the L.E.G.I.O.N. Durlan again and Enya as Phase?

Who is the new GL of 2814? Jordana Gardner or Cary Wren? How old is Rond's son?

Also agree the whereabouts of Grayam should be addressed (probably with his grandfolks on Titan).

Wouldn't be too surprised if Jan and Shvaugh were found travelling together.

Still need to see Jeckie's reaction to losing Val yet again...

With Cosmic Boy taken himself out of the picture, does that mean Brek and Lydda could become a couple?

After such blatant incompetence, Earthgov needs to have a new election with more recognizable named candidates such as Marla Latham, Kimball Zendak, Marko Chang, Wayland Bannon, Flynt Broj, or even Myron Marks...


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After such blatant incompetence, Earthgov needs to have a new election with more recognizable named candidates such as Marla Latham, Kimball Zendak, Marko Chang, Wayland Bannon, Flynt Broj, or even Myron Marks...
Zendak as President. SPs in control of EarthGov. Pro Legion or Anti Legion? sounds like a plot.


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Finally got around to reading the final LO3W. This issue was a little better than the previous ones I guess. Somewhere I read that S-Boy-Prime was supposed to represent angry fanboys and in that light, his personality makes a little more sense. I still don't think it was particularly well executed though.

Mostly, I'm just glad it's over. I'm really hopeful something good will happen with the Legion sometime in the near future. It looks like we'll be seeing the Adult Legion as the premier version which is fine with me. I'd just as soon never see the Prime version and Saturn Girl in that horrible bikini-over-jumpsuit costume ever again.


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About the theory that the reboot timetravelers always came to Earth 0.

I don't see how that makes sense since the extended visit ended with Tinya the ghost merging with her second Carggite body, dotLEGION's Phase.

The Earth 0 Tinya doesn't have any spare bodies.

And I think that the Legion, since it represents the entire Federation and not just Earth, should move off of Earth altogether.

They should either get their own planet or establish that space station we saw in one of annuals, long ago.
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About Phase, remember what Querl said about when time travelling one can shift into the multiverse? Think about it.

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