Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Let's talk about LSH #9 (potential spoilers aplenty)...

I mentioned the Kid Q possibility in my first post but I readily admit that its a BIG stretch to think that its him or Dawnstar based solely on a hairstyle and a headband.

Its a lot less of a stretch to see the reboot Invisible Kid in that pic though and Catspaw and Ferro Lad are dead certainties!

Too soon to know if they're all in there by design or whether they're just easter eggs though.

Actually, I though it might've been a flash of the future, since Invisible Kid looks like he used to in older continuities, and because other "lost' legionairres were shown. Besides this, the lighting differs from the panel next to it, which is more obviously a flashback from this Legion's early days. And don't forget, after all, that Shikari is still floating around out there, with a whole can of continuity worms to open.

Could it be that the previous legion continuities exist as comic books. And the kids are dressing and even taking names like they see in the books? They seem to have every other DC book ever published.

That would be SO cool!!

Sorry, I just had another thought that I forgot to mention earlier: the depiction of the transmatter station didn't fit in well with the established notion that people in the 30th century tend not favour in-person encounters. For one thing, people seemed to too comfortable with being in a crowd. For another, it just didn't generally have the sterile look and feel of the 30th century from the current continuity.

In fact, I've meant to make the observation before that this 30th century is somewhat reminiscent of John Byrne's Krypton in some respects.

And just to be super-nit-picky, didn't it look like Invisible Kid was about to cop a feel or something when he was resetting the transmatter coordinates. Sorry, I don't mean to be a pervert; that's just what came to mind when I first saw his facial expression.

Hmmm. I wonder if this--and the continued existence of Shikari--are a safety measure in case this version of the Legion flops?

Hey in the preview in TT/Legion Special the Dad tore up a copy of LSH v4. #0. Does that mean that a fictionalized version of the reboot legion (perhaps with different civilian names etc.) exists in this world?

Also we've got infinite crisis looming. There's a guy that knows there's a multiverse and that he's a comic book character in the 21st century. You don't suppose...

Those kids in the flashback are dressed like pre/reboot legionnaires because there's a sort of precrisis Jay Garrick - Barry Allen story waiting to be told in the second year.

Ie the Legion movement was inspired by comic books about another legion.

I have to believe that those are just inside jokes.

As for Shikari, I don't know if she's going to make an appearance or not in this series, but if DC was to revert to a previous continuity, they'd just find a way to do it. They wouldn't need to keep her around as an excuse.

The thing with Shikari (my apologies for Dawnstar fans) she is a pretty successful redone Dawnstar. Waid may have preferred her to Dawnstar and may want to bring her back one day.

I still think she may be part of all of this. Another Brainy secret agent?

Possibly. It would be fairly easy for this Brainy to have gotten Kari to trust him, especially with promises to help her find a way home.

Then again, she may just be there as a "safety" device and we'll only see her if DC's planning to bring the old Legion back.

Finally read the issue yesterday. (Actually, I read it first Sunday night, but I was too tired to internalize it -- thought Invisible Kid was going to save the universe with three "words".)

I really enjoyed this issue. The fill-in art was outstanding, notwithstanding the little coloring boo-boos. Those actually make me nostalgic for 1960s and 1970s Legion stories, where this happened ALL the time. Barry deserves a lot of credit for creating a visually compelling and distinct set of characters that stand up to other artists' pencils. Also, I am sure Art Thibert deserves a lot of credit for maintaining some visual continuity in the book.

While I was annoyed with the slow pace of the book last issue, this month's installment hinted at progress. As always, I enjoyed the strong characterization.

*Invisible Kid can save the universe, if he can convince his fellow Legionnaires to trust him. Ironic that the older characters condescend to Lyle more than a little bit.

*Cham is desperate to make everyone get along. The reaction to his subterfuge was really interesting. For the other Legionnaires to trust him, he CAN'T impersonate them, ever.

*I hope Cos-haters feel a little better about him now. Knowing that his father is seriously ill, remaining behind to help the Legion is a real sacrifice. Also, Braal and the Krinns seem pretty unreconstructed from previous versions.

*Is this the first time we have ever met one of Saturn Girl's parents? Judicious use of Legion parents really enhances the characters.

*I don't know why other posters are being so hard on Triplicate Girl. She didn't seem so bad. Is this creeping Legion World misogyny? Now that Saturn Girl is behaving, must we annoint a new hussy?

The letter column was just fabulous. This kind of whimsy and humor has been missing from comics for far too long.

Yes, I feel better about Cos and worse about Brainy's potential as leader. As I said in the another thread, I'm thinking right now that Saturn Girl and Invisible Kid are the keys to unity if not the next leaders.

I believe that reboot Saturn Girl had her family shown. Her parents were the Ward and June Cleaver... of Space. It came complete with envious little sister if I remember right.

I'll agree on the letter column, you can really tell that for Mark and Barry this assignment has really been a labour of love and not just a job. It comes through in the little things you see in each issue.

REgarding: the Cos flashback panel...
i think it's just a case of the guest artist looking at a few old Chris Sprouse "Legionnaires" issues for inspiration on how to draw the crowd. if you look closely at the "Invisible Kid" his vertical "i" symbol is changed to horizontal lines. if it's not drawn by Barry, i'm not believing it.

Yeah I wish the flashback alone was drawn by Barry . With mistakes like LL from Trom add a guest artist? Who knows what that flashback can be.

Trpilicate Girl? I don't even remember her this issue. As much as liked Triad (cool codename) I love the new origin. I have no probs with her.

Re: Cos vs. Brainy. I hope it doesn't turn into a mushy Cos was always right thing.

I have no probs with Triplicate Girl either. She was a tad unpleasant but I don't think she went out of line.

And much as I hate to admit it, Ultra Boy, while still being a jerk, didn't step too far out of line either. Punching Cham was too much, but I can understand why he'd be angry. And his pushing Lyle out of the transmatter wasn't too bad (least he didn't lose his cool again). He still needs to be taken down a peg though.

And hey, Lightning Lad was also a bit too harsh on Cham. That line about everyone thinking he's a weirdo or something must've really hurt.

I finally read it. I liked it fine, but I'll throw my support behind those clamoring for a return og Cos' (and Pol's) BLACK hair. The mass amounts of brown hair was a noticeable problem this issue.

Maybe we should call this the 'BrownBoot' instead of 'ThreeBoot' (which I think is the FourthBoot, anyway).

The idea about this Legion being inspired by a comic-book Legion is interesting. There was an old Justice League cartoon in which the Justice Guild (stand-in for the Justice Society) was a comic book in the League's Earth but had been real in another Earth,which had been destroyed by war and was recreated as an illusion by some mutant kid who survived this war... complicated, and complicated further by the presence of a pink-suited villain who drove a flute....

However, the precedent certainly exists for this kind of flummery. Doesn't really explain how Shikari would show up as a real being, though.

It'd definitely be a mind-blowing story for followers of the old continuity. Imagine the crowd outside Legion HQ in the current comic having a conversation about a fight between the SuperMoby Dick of Space versus the Every Ten Years Monster.

The precedent for "Fictional" Shikari showing up is given in Barry Allen's Earth-1 origin as the Flash. In this story he reads Jay's old adventures and cites comics as his inspiration for taking the name. Some time after this they of course do meet.

Magnetism basically involves the movement of charged particles, so it is very closely related to electricity. You can't change a magnetic field without changing the eletrical feild associated with it, so every time Cos uses his powers, he's affecting and/or creating electrical fields as well. Also, the connection means that theoretically, if Cos developed enough control and raw power from his abilities, he could move any charged particle however he wished.

The human nervous system is run by electrical impulses created by the location of various ions near the cell membranes. Thus, if Cos was (is?) strong enough, he could use his powers to do whatever he wanted to someone's nervous system.

The downside of this is that this system is very, very complex and casual tampering with it would kill the person he was doing this to. Since I doubt we'll see Cos as a cold-blooded murderer, we probably won't see this use of his powers even attempted. About the only way he'd be able to do this successfully would be if he had incredible precision control over his powers on a level far greater than anything we've ever seen from him, and an intelligence level on par with Brainy to tell him just how far to go with his manipulation of the ions at the level of the nerve cells.

Am I boring you yet?