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And unfortunately they're saying the Frank cover, the one I would want, is the variant.

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And unfortunately they're saying the Frank cover, the one I would want, is the variant.
Frank is actually doing both covers for #858.

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So after reading five issues of Countdown in a row, most of them starring Karate Kid and Luornu, my question is...

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Why is Karate Kid suddenly dying? Who told him so?</span></span>

Was it off-panel, or was it just a new information to add to the mystery why Karate Kid is in the 20th century at all!?

As always in this very chaotic DC universe, I am just wondering if I have missed something - or if I am supposed to be confused...

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Given the costumes and history of the other "Lightning Legionnaires", perhaps the real question should be:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Why is he alive?</span></span>

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You've nailed it Mario.
The mysterious shadow in the bright shiny time thingy and that thing with Projectra seem to point to him being one of those "time anomalies" they're going on about in the Countdown stuff.

Why is Val alive?

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Indeed. But my question was referring to that part of the story that we have actually been seeing - rather like, "have I missed something" or was it just some new info?

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[b]And unfortunately they're saying the Frank cover, the one I would want, is the variant.
Frank is actually doing both covers for #858.[/b]
Ah, that's good, I'd just glanced at the article. Glad he's doing the regular cover for #859 also.

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Yeah. We've ALL missed something. KK is a mystery to us at this point. Might Nemisis Kid show up at some point so they can repeat the epic struggle that led to both their deaths?

..and Una..what happened to her second body? Do we know that yet?

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..and Una..what happened to her second body? Do we know that yet?
We might as well assume that the Time Trapper killed her until we hear differently.

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Wow. The Trapper. You may have hit on another mystery here. Where's he going to fit into all this?..or is he? We have some time traveling villians shown in The Lightning Saga and we haven't heard a thing about that creep. Perhaps we'll see the return of the Glorith the Time Trapper/Mordru the Galactic Conqueror alliance instead?

I'm also wondering what Una's personal story is going to have in the way of impact on the upcoming tale. Whether it was the Trapper or another one of Brainiac's wacky (read: murderous) creations might make some kind of pivotal plotting element. Whatever though, I'm fairly certain their stories are going to be crucial to this "Three Worlds" thingy.

You know, so far we've been speculating about the possibilities of the Three Legions but nobody's given much thought to which villians might belong in a big wide ranging LSH DCvers summer crossover story.

The Trapper took on the whole DC Universe not all that long ago. He definitely ought to be on the shortlist.

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The Time Trapper would make sense but so does Darkseid since the New Gods are a pivotal part of this also.


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The Time Trapper made a one panel appearance recently in Brave & Bold #6 in the Book of Destiny.


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..and Una..what happened to her second body? Do we know that yet?
I dunno. In Supergirl #21 (the current issue, written by Legion scribe, Tony Bedard), Una says her Legion name is Triplicate Girl. Now, that's in direct contradiction to the Duo Damsel statue in Superman's Fortess, but Karate Kid did address her as Triplicate Girl once before in Countdown.

At this stage, though I'm pretty sure Una is just one girl, I have no idea how many bodies Lighting Saga Luornu actually has -- and I suspect DC intends it to be all confusing and mysterious.

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The Time Trapper made a one panel appearance recently in Brave & Bold #6 in the Book of Destiny.
That might've been Destiny (brother to Dream).

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You know I am wondering if Una is just a name that they give themselves/are given by others to help differentiate between the three bodies Trip splits into. Sort of like a Triad Orange, Triad Neutral etc.

So maybe out there, we have a Dos and a Tres. Or perhaps an Un, Deux and Trois exist or some version of these numerical names.

After all just because we have not seen the other bodies don’t mean they aren’t there.


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Oooo... good point Far.

I always wondered about that. Suppose one of Duo Damsel's bodies went back in time with a team and left her "sister" in the future. While not being able to replicate would effectively negate her "power" I wonder would there be any other advantages to the tactic?

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That might've been Destiny (brother to Dream).
I have no idea who Destiny or Dream are, but I'm sure you're probably right - after all, it was the Book of Destiny.


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Go to your next comic book shop and read your Sandman, Kid Quislet smile It's essential comic book art - I know of nobody who didn't like it...

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Go to your next comic book shop and read your Sandman, Kid Quislet smile It's essential comic book art - I know of nobody who didn't like it...
Well, now you know of one person who didn't like it -- ME!


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I agree with CK. I think they're "essential" to every comic reader's education.

Still, it isn't the art (on Sandman) that I think is so essential, though in it's way it's phenomenal too and helped pave the way for a looser, darker type of comic book art to gain mainstream acceptability. The stories are such high quality that I really believe they're on the level of "The Watchmen", or the original serialized run of the first year of "Marvelman" (later Miracleman), maybe even better than the first couple of years of "The Elementals" by Willingham.
Outstanding writing.

A really cool read too.

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Latest issue of Action? Any Legion? Any Supergirls?

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This arc of Action Comics is set on Bizarro world. So, no Supergirls or Legion. Next arc, I think.

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[b] ..and Una..what happened to her second body? Do we know that yet?
I dunno. In Supergirl #21 (the current issue, written by Legion scribe, Tony Bedard), Una says her Legion name is Triplicate Girl. Now, that's in direct contradiction to the Duo Damsel statue in Superman's Fortess, but Karate Kid did address her as Triplicate Girl once before in Countdown.

At this stage, though I'm pretty sure Una is just one girl, I have no idea how many bodies Lighting Saga Luornu actually has -- and I suspect DC intends it to be all confusing and mysterious. [/b]
If the Lightning Saga Legion is from a timeline that is simular to one that continued on from the Baxter era than Una was down to just one body. She lost the first to Computo all those years ago and then the 2nd in their last battle with the Time Trapper.
Thats the way I have interpretted the apperances of the Lightning Sage Legion anyway. Their history is close to the classic Legion up until the end of the Baxter series but not into the 5 Years Latter Legion. It changes then. I could be wrong.

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In the latest issue of Supergirl (22 this week) Kara reveals 3-boot Brainy wiped her memory before giving her a one-way ticket home.
LSaga Val and Una suggest that they have never met Supergirl before last issue.

So either they are lying or the pre-crisis Supergirl has been erased from the Legion's history. So is a Legion without Brainy building a robot in his sleep an original Legion? Perhaps Laurel took her place, perhaps in the Lightning Saga version of the robot story, Brainy was pining for Laurel when she joined the Convent because she rejected the disco revival of 2976. I might join a monastery too if the alternative was a white leisure suit.

Upon review I actually like my version better than the version in the archive. And so Squealer led the sheep to the field and they came back singing a new song, "Archives Good, Retcon Bahhhter."

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Originally posted by Zero Kahn:
If the Lightning Saga Legion is from a timeline that is simular to one that continued on from the Baxter era than Una was down to just one body. She lost the first to Computo all those years ago and then the 2nd in their last battle with the Time Trapper.
Thats the way I have interpretted the apperances of the Lightning Sage Legion anyway. Their history is close to the classic Legion up until the end of the Baxter series but not into the 5 Years Latter Legion. It changes then. I could be wrong.
Yes, but the battle in which the Trapper killed one of Duo Damsel's bodies was prompted by the death of the pocket-universe Superboy. So we're not quite out of the woods yet.

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