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I would LOVE to see "Iron" Mike Grell or James Sherman return to the Legion of Super Heroes. In my opinion, yea I got one! laugh I think, besides Dave Cockrum, they really created a "look" for the LSH!!

Dave Cockrum updated them and got everyone's attention!

Mike Grell gave them a very graphic look with all the inked cross hatching and tight work along with some cool and not so cool costume updates.

James Sherman (when inked by anyone other than Jack Abel) gave the Legionaires VERY individual bone structure. Dawnstar actually looked "American" Indian, Ultra Boy, stocky and muscular with a strong jaw but puppy dog eyes and Monel look very regal and so forth and so on. James is my all time favorite for the few issues he did do (I think 12 in all) and the ones inked by greats like Bob Wiacek, Joe Rubinstein and Bob McLeod really made his style of story telling POP!!

I did actually like Jack Abel inking Mike Nassers stuff, really made it look good but other than that I really didn't care for his inking work to much.

Mike Grell inked by Terry Austin back in the GL - GA days was a real treat. I didn't care for his stuff inked by Vince Colleta, it just looked WRONG to me for some reason. If "Iron" Mike were to return I'd love to see him paired up with Bob Wiacek again, I thought he really strengthened Mikes pencil work tremendously!! Mike's final issues written around the Time Trapper, way back when, was a prime example of a really great artistic pairing!!

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To me, Mike Grell will always remain the not-Cockrum. I thought his style was a second rate version of Dave's. I would rather have seen a completely different style at that point. Maybe I was so upset at Cockrum's leaving that no one (except Curt Swan) would have been a good enough replacement. However, I can still think of some of those shots of Saturn Girl standing there with a blank look on her face, legs fused together and shudder.


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Yes, but his style has improved considerably. Heck it improved when he did Warlord. I think there is ALLOT of pressure doing a team book. Try drawing 10 to 20 characters every month for each story or arc on a tight schedule! I think you might get a bit burned out. I studied to be a comic artist and I'm quite good to this day but then I researched the stress that this job has on the artists and I have so much more respect than I used to.

I do agree that Iron Mike did some pretty bad panels but for the most part he delivered an exciting issues every month. As I stated before, Bob Wiacek really pulled his stuff together for the last few issues and made it look more solid and exciting, at least to me. I saw that commissioned piece he did for the Legion Companion back in 2003 and it's really nice. Highly detailed and the anatomy looks pretty right on!!

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Originally posted by Cheryl Lad:
Just because Cockrum was a great costume designer, that doesn't mean every Legion artist is. I could never understand Grell's fixation with making the Legion virtually naked.
Hey, it was the 1970s.

My main concern with Grell (I love his work, by the way) is how slow he can be. Anyone remember his 3-issue James Bond mini in the late 80s?

It began in the Cold War, but by the time the 3rd part was out, Germany was unified and the Czech commies from #1 were well out of date...


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I loved Mike's art. I liked how his 30th century was so round and spherical, in contrast to all the sciency fictiony type stuff in the seventies which was generally blokky and prismy.

And he drew the best looking legionnaires ever.

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Originally posted by MLLASH:
I'm pretty sure it was # 193, and yes Dave reverted it back to the traditional orange in # 201. I dunno why.

I believe it was Len Wein who looked at the new uniform and said it was all wrong. He argued that a martial artist would never wear such a high collar...it completely blocked his vision. Cockrum agreed and went back to the old look.

Mike

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