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Legion September 2008 Solicitations and Images ... SPOILERS
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Here are the covers. Text should be available pretty soon. Sorry this is so late, just too slammed at work to be around much.

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The Legion of Super-Heroes #46
Written by Jim Shooter
Art and cover by Frances Manapul and John Livesay.

Chameleon's hand is amputated! The menacing Intruder Planet is revealed as the source of the Alien Life-Eradicators! A longtime Legionnaire takes the first step down the path of darkness! Plus, the heartbreaking end of the oldest relationship in the history of the Legion!

32 pages, $2.99, in stores on Sept. 24.

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Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds #2
Written by Geoff JohnsA
Art by George Perez and Scott Koblish
Cover by Perez.

As Superboy-Prime leads the Legion of Super-Villains against everything and everyone inspired by the legacy of Superman, the Legion of Super-Heroes are forced to call for help from beyond their world. Meanwhile, contingency plans are created by Brainiac 5 as he attempts to overcome Colu's devastating betrayal, Dawnstar and Wildfire pull off a startling rescue, but at a horrible cost to the universe, and Saturn Girl uncovers the source of the Legion's troubles.

Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers by George Pérez that will ship in approximately 50/50 ratio. Please see the Previews Order Form for more information.

40 pages, $3.99, in stores on Sept. 17.

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Ambush Bug Year None #3
Written by Keith Giffen and Robert Loren Fleming
Art by Giffen and Al Milgrom
Cover by Amanda Conner.

Darkseid makes a list and checks it twice! Plus, a shotgun wedding, alternate universes, more OMACs than you can shake a stick at and the very important return of Super-Turtle all

32 pages, $2.99, in stores on Sept. 24.

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DC/Wildstorm: Dreamwar #6
Written by Keith Giffen
Art by Lee Garbett and Trevor Scott
Cover by Gene Ha.

Hell has been unleashed upon the earth, as all the villains from the DC Universe and the WildStorm Universe team up. And with the moon ripped from its orbit, the earth itself is being torn asunder. Could this final issue contain the end of two universes?

32 pages, $2.99, in stores on Sept. 17.


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Justice Society of America #19
Written by Geoff Johns and Alex Ross
Art and variant cover by Dale Eaglesham
Cover by Alex Ross.

"One World, Under Gog" continues! The Justice Society begins to dissolve as Gog vows to bring peace to EarthŠin a way that frightens some and thrills others. But with Hawkman around, it's not going to be a simple debate. Plus, Starman reveals his concerns about the team's future to Mr. Terrific while Power Girl struggles to come to terms with her greatest desire!

32 pages, $2.99, in stores on Sept. 24.

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I am VERY anxious to read Ambush Bug. And should I recognize who are these people in the cover of LSH? Oh, it's written MENU in Interlac...

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Updated with solicitation text.

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Ambush Bug and.... DUMB BUNNY? BWAhahahaha!

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Shooter is really supercharging the Legion. It's a pity he will be obliterated by Dan DiDio's screw-ups.

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RE: Legion #46: "Plus, the heartbreaking end of the oldest relationship in the history of the Legion!"

Color me not happy. Garth & Imra are the oldest relationship in Legion history right?? Please JS, don't make me hate you for messing with them. I don't care if threeboot gets blinked out of existence after Final Crisis L3W or not. Don't mess with true love man!!


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For all the people who are complaining about the Life-Eradicators storyline going nowhere, it's definitely going somewhere.


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Originally posted by Ricardo:
Shooter is really supercharging the Legion. It's a pity he will be obliterated by Dan DiDio's screw-ups.
then someone will need to speak at the DC U Panel at SDCC in July to take a shot at Dan by asking him why did he squash Jim's? will someone volunteer?

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Could Cham's amputated hand become the 3boot Proty? laugh


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I think DiDio will be needing kevlar for any con appearance after this and what is going on with Chuck Dixon.

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RE: Legion #46: "Plus, the heartbreaking end of the oldest relationship in the history of the Legion!"

Color me not happy. Garth & Imra are the oldest relationship in Legion history right?? Please JS, don't make me hate you for messing with them. I don't care if threeboot gets blinked out of existence after Final Crisis L3W or not. Don't mess with true love man!!
Craig, my words exactly! But I've been wracking my brain trying to think of another relationship that might predate Garth and Imra, at least continuity wise. Anyone?

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It doesn't say the first "romantic" relationship. Nor does it necessarily mean throughout all continuities. Could just be referring to the oldest relationship in the history of THIS Legion, which might mean Jeckie & Brin.


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I take it to mean Imra and Garth given their recent interactions. But we'll see...

I'm totally psyched about Ambush Bug. Best cover so far this year!!! Good to see Irwin getting a little! laugh

Action Saturn Girl totally channels Mia Farrow more each issue! And 3boot Ultra Boy has sure become a star of the series these last few issues.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
I take it to mean Imra and Garth given their recent interactions. But we'll see...

Oh, I took it the same way just trying to provide Omni & Scott some comfort until...

Regarding Jo, I take it from his prominence on the cover that he is probably the long time Legionnaire who is about to "start down the path of darkness."


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It certainly is a provocative solicit. And I like the cover. Could that be the Persuader on the right?

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And I like the cover. Could that be the Persuader on the right?
Oddly enough, despite the ax, ot looks a lot more like Grimbor to me, at least in the face. The lady's garb, though, is more reminiscent of Grimbor's. Confusing!


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Manapul has posted some pencils for September's issue:

http://manapul.deviantart.com/

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Manapul has posted some pencils for September's issue:

http://manapul.deviantart.com/
He has easily become one of my favorite Legion artists by a mile. You can see love pouring from every page. One day, people will be sorry to see this team go, just as they miss JLI and L.E.G.I.O.N. nowadays.

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I feel like Jim is leading towards a Jo-Imra-Garth triangle. We have issue 41 with Imra basically telling Garth to manhandle her (and then they get interrupted) and in 42 she wakes Jo telepathically and his first conscious thought is to kiss her. Her reaction "what a great kisser". Also the next few issues seem to revolve around Ultra Boy and Rimbor, so when Imra gets lonely on this mission she may just have to let the bad boy have his way with her... :rolleyes:

I'll say it again, I'm not pleased by this! I hope I'm wrong, but that's where I think Jim's leading us!


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Originally posted by Omni Craig:
I feel like Jim is leading towards a Jo-Imra-Garth triangle. We have issue 41 with Imra basically telling Garth to manhandle her (and then they get interrupted) and in 42 she wakes Jo telepathically and his first conscious thought is to kiss her. Her reaction "what a great kisser". Also the next few issues seem to revolve around Ultra Boy and Rimbor, so when Imra gets lonely on this mission she may just have to let the bad boy have his way with her... :rolleyes:

I'll say it again, I'm not pleased by this! I hope I'm wrong, but that's where I think Jim's leading us!
If this were the pre-Crisis, pre-Zero Hour or Lightning Saga Legion, I'd have a problem with it. But this is the 3Boot, and I haven't seen enough to make me feel that 3Boot Garth and Imra really belong together, other than to be consistent with the prior versions of the Legion. The 3Boot's its own animal, so always keep that in mind.

Honestly, I kinda liked how the reboot played around with a Cos/Imra/Garth love triangle for awhile. Ultimately, a new continuity shouldn't have to be bound by all the romantic liaisons of the prior ones, no matter how entrenched they were.

And besides, who's to say the breakup has to be permanent? Even if the 3Boot ends after Shooter's year is up, he might still have them get back together in the last issue! smile


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Craig, my words exactly! But I've been wracking my brain trying to think of another relationship that might predate Garth and Imra, at least continuity wise. Anyone?
Based on the chronological order of stories (and the fact that Garth and Imra are two of the three founding members) I think it has to be them, no matter how you look at it. Their marriage was revealed in Action Comics #289, when Supergirl was trying to find the perfect woman for Superman to marry. They visited the adult Legion in the 30th century and Superman kissed Saturn Woman a couple of times (under the mistletoe at a Christmas party). Lightning Man gets ticked off, asking why Supes is trying to make time with his wife. This story, according to John Censullo's master list of Legion appearances, is about the 30th time the Legion made any kind of appearance in comics, and predates the Adventure #300-380 run by mere months (Action #289 was dated June 1962, Adventure #300 was dated Sept 1962).

Pre-boot I can't think of another relationship that is older than theirs. The only other longstanding relationship from the Adventure era that is even close would be Jo and Tinya (not shown to be in any exclusive relationship in threeboot). Jo and Tinya almost have as long a history as Garth and Imra, but if you look at the "finally revealed team origin" type stories, Garth was drawn to Imra from the moment she walked by him on the spacecrusier (regardless of the 'boot). The first Adventure stories showed Garth's devotion to Imra as more of a "I can't let you (my teammate) die!", for example against Zaryan the Conqueror when Garth died for her. Then in her attempt to bring him back, Imra intended to sacrifice herself with the superconductor lightning rod. It wasn't said to be done out of an undying love, but it must have been there.

It has to be Garth and Imra's relationship ending, as they have been the most enduring couple in every Legion reboot!

So, does the relationship end because of infidelity or does one of them die, and they have cleverly worded the Previews listing to avoid the: "THIS ISSUE SOMEBODY DIES!!! FOR REAL!!! AGAIN!!! NO REALLY, SEE FOR YOURSELF ON PAGE 16" hype we're all so sick of...


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Ultimately, a new continuity shouldn't have to be bound by all the romantic liaisons of the prior ones, no matter how entrenched they were.
Why not? I see that as destiny...fate...kismet. A love that transcends time and space... it's a constant that you can count on, at the very least in comic books. It works for me!! I guess I'm just a romantic at heart. smile Garth and Imra's relationship in the 3boot is about the only one that remained from the prior 'boots. Thom and Nura? No. Jo and Tinya? Val and Jeckie? No. Most of the team seems okay with the idea of bedhopping for no reason other than "I was bored and we had too much Silverale to drink...". Kinda bothers me in my middle age (not out of envy, I've just seen too many relationships ruined by meaningless sex... it's depressing really).

I like how Geoff Johns just showed the Time Trapper as having manipulated the Legion again and again (trying to sever their ties to Superman), but he can't seem to get rid of them. I like having things like that to depend on. If I can't have them in real life, then by damn I'll have them in my comics! smile smile Okay, I'm kidding there, I do have the love of a wonderful woman, whom I completely trust with my heart. I consider myself one of the lucky ones.

I think Garth and Imra's relationship is a good constant for the series. I think that too many changes aren't good for a reboot. I know writers are trying to make the Legion "their own" by making Thom black in the 3boot, or making Jeckie a snake in postboot, but if you change too much is it still the Legion? Is the core concept behind them still there? The book hasn't sold as well as it did in their heydey, back when they were a couple dozen teenagers united by the legend of a Superboy (who actually joined their club!!) to make the world(s) a better place. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

I'm really not trying to be preachy. I've never been one to say "this 'boot is better than that 'boot...". I have a favorite, but I still buy the book and read it and find things to appreciate in each continuity.

Some things just shouldn't be messed with though, and Shooter's messing with a biggie right now! smile


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Technically, the "oldest relationship in the history of the Legion" would be that of the founding three--perhaps this hints to the return of Cosmic Boy? Romantically, Supergirl/Brainiac Five actually predates the first Adult Legion story, for Brainy asked Kara to "be his girl" in his first appearance in ACTION COMICS #287, but that seems unlikey since she's back in the 21st Century, and claimed not to stand this incarnation of Brainy. A very slim possibility would be Gim and Gigi Cusimano, Levitz had them in a physical relationship before he became Colossal Boy.


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Technically, the longest relationship is Garth and *Ayla*. They were born together. smile

I can't stand love triangles, so I hope it's not leading to that, but I'd relish seeing Imra dumped from the team for mind-jacking.

This is the awesomest cover. Those aliens should know better than to bother a Legionnaire when he's eating his muffin.

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from the LSH cover, the ax wielding guy seems to have Kirby tech design. maybe he's from the fourth world?

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Manuapul's art is definitely growing on me.

I agree the aliens look vaguely familiar - a bit of Fatal Five, a bit of Grimbor - but they don't seem to be anyone we know. Kirby-style, definitely, but is that a story point, or just a visual homage?


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