Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Spaceopoly Legion Tryout Idol 2025! (discussion on the list)

hi all,

Our Legion Idol in 2024 pitted Legionnaires of all eras, in a contest to rank them all, until we got down to one winner. There, the Legionnaires had to compete against versions of themselves, and it was fun to see, for a given Legionnaire, whether the Preboot version would be most popular, or the Reboot one.

For this Idol game, let's switch it up. Now, we are a group of writers, and we have to form a team of 25 Legionnaires in a completely new reality.

Our starting point - a list of "unique" characters. That is: Preboot Saturn Girl and Reboot Saturn Girl are both Imra Ardeen, so they occupy one spot on our candidate list.

1) Because we're forming a new team, I've also added various other super-beings (think: Subs, Academy Students, Heroes of Lallor, Wanderers...) I've drawn the line at beings who are good, or at least anti-villainish. No out-and-out villains. Thus, Mekt's group from the Threeboot are in, but the Fatal Five are out. Legion rejects are here - even though they've been out and out villains - because they did try out.

2) This may be controversial, but I've also added a few non-powered good guys: you will see Shvaughn Erin and Gigi Cusimano on the list.

But hold on! Some Legionnaires had very different powers between 'Boots! So, we will make an exception for those. A Legionnaire will have multiple entries, for cases where a version of them had significantly different powers. OR where they had significantly different powers through their history.

Examples:

Ayla Ranzz has had lightning powers AND anti-grav powers (and even light-based powers in Superboy's Legion)! So Ayla Ranzz gets three entries on the list.

Violet normally only shrinks; but in the mid-Reboot, she got growth powers. So she gets two entries.

Kinetix with her psychokinetic powers vs. Kinetix as terrorform will get different powers.


To avoid the list getting too long, here's the fine print: "significantly different" powers does not consider cases where the expanded powers are a natural extension of past powers.

Reboot Invisible Kid was able to - with effort - make up to two others invisible. He was also able to "layer" his invisibility; making his skin/organs invisible, and showing only his skeleton. I would consider these as natural extensions of his power.

In 5YL, Color Kid used his powers to make disorienting auroras. I'd argue this just shows finer control of his powers, and is not a new power-set.

However, late DNA-era and Superboy's Legion Tasmia both had tangible darkfields. I would argue this is much more different than casting darkness, so should get a different entry.

I also have Black Witch and White Witch as different entries, as I think the magical bent is different enough.

OK, there is a bit of wiggle room here, so I will post the list first, and give it a couple of weeks for folks to weigh in and discuss!

I've generally used code names.

Current list: 451 sentients (Annotation of the list is in progress!!)

Abyss (Oversight Watch)
Accordion King (SW6 reject)
Adam Karl
Alaktor
Alloy 12 (5YL)
Amber (Workforce)
Amethyst
Amilia Crugg
Amp Girl (Reboot cadet)
Andromeda (Laurel Gand)
Animal Lad (Preboot reject)
Antennae Boy
Anti-Lad
Antonio Steffanacci
Appliance Boy
Arachno (Reboot reject)
Argent
Arm-Fall-Off Boy / Splitter
Atmos
Atom (31c JSA)
Atom'x (Uncanny Amazers)
Avatar (Dead Earth)
B.I.O.N.
Babbage
Bagel Boy (Sergio Aragones)
Barber Boy (Reject)
Batman
Beast Boy (Lallor)
Behemoth (Dead Earth)
Beppo
Black Witch
Blackout Boy (Murran spy)
Blast-Off
Blazerr (Reboot reject)
Blockade Boy
Blok
Bloodbat (Young Hero reject)
Bloodclaw
Bludgeon Brothers (Threeboot reject)
Bouncing Boy
Bounty entity
Brainiac 417 (DC 1 Million)
Brainiac 5 (intelligence only)
Brainiac 5 (robot)
Brainiac 5 (with internal forcefield)
Brainstorm (Oversight Watch)
Brawler (Reboot cadet)
Buck Bond (Science Ranger)
Cable-Installer Lad (Sergio Aragones)
Calamity King
Calcu-Lad (Preboot reject)
Calorie Queen
Camera Eye (Preboot reject)
Cannus (Reboot cadet)
Catspaw
Celebrand
Celeste Rockfish / Neon
Cera Kesh
Chameleon (Boy)
Chameleon Girl
Chameleon Kid (Preboot reject)
Charma (love from males, hate from females)
Charma (mind control of males)
Chec (DC 1 Million)
Chemical Kid
Chemical King
Cherry Bomb (Reboot reject)
Cheryl Lad (Sergio Aragones)
Chiller (Lori H-Dial)
Chlorophyll Kid
Circe (Science Police)
Clonus (Wanderers)
Cocheta Drisden
Colonel Lad
Color Kid
Colossal Boy / Leviathan
Comet
Comet Queen
Command Kid
Computo (Bendis version)
Computo (Danielle Foccart)
Cosmic Boy
Cosmic King
Cosmicbot
Cotton Swab Boy (Sergio Aragones)
Crystal Kid
Cub
Cupid (5YL Khund)
Dacey Ranzz
Dartalg / Dartalon
Dav (DC 1 Million)
Dav Huntr (3boot Legionnaire)
Dawn Allen
Dawnstar
Deja Vu Kid (Sergio Aragones)
Density
Dev-Em
Devil-Fish
Devlin O'Ryan / Reflex
Dinah-Soar (Lori H-Dial)
Doctor Fate (31c JSA)
Doctor Fate (Bendis)
Don Allen
Dorrit Ranzz
Double-Header
Douglas Nolan (Ingot)
Dragonfly (UP Militia)
Dragonmage
Dragonwing
Dream Boy
Dream Girl / Dreamer
Drianna Allon (Ringer)
Dune
Duo Damsel (Luornu)
Duplicate Boy
Duplicate Damsel (Luornu)
Dynamo Boy
Dynamo Kid (Preboot Reject)
Dyna-Soar
Earth-Man / Absorbancy Boy
Echo
Echo-Chamber Chet
Elastic Lad (Jimmy Olsen)
Elasti-Kid 5 (5YL)
Element Lad / Alchemist
Eltro Gand
Elvo / Elvar
Elysion (Terror Firma)
Energax (Universo project)
Energy Boy
Entropy Kid (Bendis)
Esper Lass
Estimate Lad
Evolvo (Lad)
Eyeful Ethel
Ferro (Lad)
Fire Lad
Fireball (Lori H-Dial)
Firefist
Flea (3boot Young Hero reject)
Flederweb
Floating Foxlike Creature (Reboot cadet)
Flynt Brojj
Fortress Lad
Fruit Boy
Galaxy (Dead Earth)
Galaxy Girl (Lori H-Dial)
Garridan Ranzz
Gas Girl
Gates
Gazelle
G'dath of the Silvans
Gear
Gemini
Ghost 6 (5YL)
Gigi Cusimano
Gizi (Dead Earth)
Glorith
Gold Lantern
Golden Boy
Graft
Grav (3boot Wanderers)
Gravity Kid
Graym Rannz
Green Boy (Preboot reject)
Green Lantern (31c JSA)
Green Lantern (Cary Wren)
Green Lantern (Jordana Gardner)
Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
Grinn
Gron (Terror Firma)
Harlak
Harmonia
Hate-Face
Heck-Kitty (Reboot reject)
Huntress (31c JSA)
Immorto / Re-Animage
Implicate Girl (DC 1 Million)
Impulse (Bart)
Impulse (Kent)
Infectious Lass
Inferno (Sandy)
Inferno (Threeboot)
Ink (Lori H-Dial)
Insect Queen (Lana Lang)
Insect Queen (Lonna Leing)
Invisible Kid I
Invisible Kid II
Invisible Kid II (With teleportation)
Ivy
Jagged (UP Militia)
Jamm
Jancel Ardeen
Janice Warren
Jeyra Entinn (3boot Wanderers)
Jonas H'dar
Julie Lad
Jungle King
Karate Kid I
Karate Kid II
Kid Psycho (Adventure)
Kid Psycho (SW6)
Kid Quake
Kid Quantum I
Kid Quantum II
Kinetix (Emerald Eye)
Kinetix (psychokinesis)
Kinetix (Terrorform)
Klen Rokkart (Ringers)
Koko
Konk! (Uncanny Amazers)
Kono
Kromak (3boot Wanderers)
Krypto
Krypton Girl (Lois Lane)
Kynda (Terror Firma)
Lady Memory
Lamprey
Laurel Kent
Leejah the Composite Durlan
Leeta 87
Lester Spiffany
Lex Luthor V
Life Lass
Light Lass
Light Lass (light powers)
Lightning Lad / Live Wire
Lightning Lass / Spark
Lightning Lord
Lodestone (Dead Earth)
Loomis
Lori (5YL)
Lori Lemaris
Lori Morning
Lox Lass (Sergio Aragones)
Lucy Lastic (Superboy's Legion)
Lume (Reboot reject)
Lupine (Workforce candidate)
Lynk (Lil Legion)
Macaw (Reboot reject)
Magnetic Kid (Murran spy)
Magnetic Kid (Pol)
Magno
Magno Boy (Dead Earth)
Magno-Boy (Preboot Reject)
Mandalla
Marla Latham
Martian Manhunter
Matter-Eater Lad
Meander (3boot)
Membrain (Dead Earth)
Mentalla
Meta
Metallica (Dead Earth)
Metrox (Dead Earth)
Mibel (Universo project)
Micro Lad (Preboot reject)
Micro Lass (3boot Wanderers)
Mnemonic Kid
Mog Yagor
Molecule Master
Mon-El / M'Onel / Valor
Monica Sade
Monster Boy
Monstress
Mordru (31c JSA)
M'Rissey
Mwindaji
Mxyzptlk V
Nam'lor
Nemesis Kid (defeat one opponent + mimic powers)
Nemesis Kid (defeat one opponent)
Nemesis Kid (neutralize powers)
Nervosa (Dead Earth)
Night Girl
Nightwind
Nightwing (Lara Londo)
Nimbok of Vaalor (Shanghalla)
Nixon Lad (Sergio Aragones)
One Hit Wonder (Sergio Aragones)
Orla Eidoor
Ornitho / Aviax
Otaki
Particon
Persuader's Daughter (Lialla)
Pete Ross
Phantom Girl / Apparition
Phantom Lad
Phase (Dead Earth)
Phren
Physo (3boot Wanderers)
Piston
Plaid Lad
Plant Lad
Plasma
Pol Krinn (Rokk and Lydda's son)
Polar Boy
Polecat
Policy Pam
Porcupine Pete
Power Boy
Princess Elwinda
Projectra (original)
Projectra (Sensor Girl powers)
Proty I
Proty II
Psiclone
Psyche
Quake (UP Militia)
Quake Kid
Quantum Queen
Questar
Quislet
R. J. Brande
R327 (UP Militia)
Radiant (3boot Young Hero reject)
Radiation Roy
Radion
Radius Lad (Bendis)
Rainbow Girl
Ramjet (5YL Khund)
Rann Antar (Preboot reject)
Reflecto
Rejection Lass (Sergio Aragones)
Renkil Kem
Repulse (Oversight Watch)
Retro (Reboot cadet)
Ringtoss (UP Militia)
Rond Vidar
Ron-Karr
Roon Dvron (Science Police)
Rose Forrest
Rush (Mara Williams)
Saturn Girl
Saturn Queen
Scales (Lil Legion)
Sensei
Sensor (half-human)
Sensor (serpent)
Shadow Kid
Shadow Lass / Umbra (shadow casting)
Shadow Lass / Umbra (tangible darkfield)
Shallee (Ringer)
Shape (Dead Earth)
Shift (Dead Earth)
Shikari
Shrinking Violet
Shrinking Violet (with Emerald Eye)
Shrinking Violet / Leviathan II (with growing)
Shvaughn Erin
Silver Sword
Silverwing (Dead Earth)
Singularity
Sir Artros (Knights of Nadir)
Sir Borrs (Knights of Nadir)
Sir Elistair (Knights of Nadir)
Sir Galado (Knights of Nadir)
Sir Kayle (Knights of Nadir)
Sir Norwith (Knights of Nadir)
Sister Scrap Iron (3boot Young Hero reject)
Size Lad (Murran spy)
Sizzle
Skreaks (Flotsam & Jetsam - Preboot Academy)
Sludge
Slugg (3boot Young Hero reject)
Solomon Grundy (31c JSA)
Sonar
Soultaker
Spaceopoly Lad
Spider-Girl
Spunge
Spy
Squire Burroughs
Staci (3boot Wanderers)
Star Boy
Star Boy (Daxamite powers)
Steel Squid (3boot Young Hero reject)
S'tern Ro'g
Stiletta
Stone Boy
Storm Boy
Streaky
Stun (UP Militia)
Styx
Sugyn
Sun Boy / Inferno
Superboy (DC 1 Million)
Superboy (Jon Kent)
Superboy (Kal-El)
Superboy (Kon-El)
Supergirl (Kara)
Supergirl (Matrix)
Superman X
Sybelle Deacon (Science Police)
Telekinesis (3boot Wanderer)
Teleporting Dominator (SW6)
Tellus
The Bald Kid (Uncanny Amazers)
The Chameleon (DC 1 Million)
The Dreamer (DC 1 Million)
The Mess (Preboot reject)
The M'Onelves (DC 1 Million)
The Umbra (DC 1 Million)
Theena
Thoom (3boot Wanderers)
Thunder
Thunderbow
Tiffany Cross
Tiger Girl (Preboot Academy)
Timber Wolf
Titangirl (DC 1 Million)
Tomb
Toyman (Arrowverse)
Transporter Boy
Triad III
Triplicate
Triplicate Girl / Triad (Luornu)
Turtle
Tusker
Twine (Oversight Watch)
Tyroc (magic screams)
Tyroc (sound powers)
Ultra Boy
Ultra-Man
Urk
Vara (DC 1 Million)
Variable Lad
Veilmist
Vincel (Ringer)
Virus (Threeboot)
Visegrip (3Boot Young hero reject)
Visi-Lad
Voice
Vrax Gozzl (3boot Wanderers)
Weight Wizard
Westerner
White Witch
Whizzy
Wildcat (31c JSA)
Wildfire
Wildflame
Windows Woman (Sergio Aragones)
X-Bomb Betty
Xera
X-Ray Girl
XS
Young Darkseid
Zaphammer (3boot Young Hero reject)
Ze Tongue
Zepha (Terror Firma)
Ziga (Dead Earth)


Time to have at it

What about a Brainiac Five based on the animated version? Maybe also Nemesis KId?

OK so dumb me for asking probably a stupid clarifying question.

As to the rools - you're just asking us to create a list of 25 right?

good points - both have unique powers that their counterparts don't! Added to the list already posted


yes, the game idea is that collectively, we will trim the list down to 25 We'll go through a few rounds of voting, trimming the list bit by bit.

Can you add links or appearances to some of the more obscure characters listed? I have basically every AR Legion appearance and I'm drawing a blank on a few of these such as Adam Karl, Blazerr, Sister Scrap Iron,Zaphammer, etc.

Blazerr was a legion applicant in an issue during the Cobalt Blue crossover. Bart showed up at Legion HQ and thought he was attacking Xs instead of just demonstrating his power to her. (The blue flames caused confusion.)

I looked it up. Flash 148 from 1999. Chain Lightning part 4. His only appearance.

Zaphammer sounds familiar but can't place him (or her), The other two don't ring any bells.

So are we just discusssing for now or are we supposed to vote and for how many?

I can work on it, though frankly I'm a little scared of doing so It will take a while

Another qualm I have is that one reader's obscure is another reader's "how can you not know that?". I'll need to have a think about which ones I add a link to...

just discussing for now

ok, so for Zaphammer and Sister Scrap Iron and a few others, I've added a small callout beside their name on who they are.

for many of these characters there won't be any pages or articles to link to, so I think this is a reasonable solution.

I can go through the list and add callouts like this, but it will take time - and will probably need to be done for around half the list or so.

Possible addition:

The Knights of Nadir. I don't think they'll make it very far, but...

Just for reference, the Young heroes (Sister Scrap Iron, etc) were from issue 46 from 2008. They all fought (and lost) to Ultraboy.

Also, should we include the Justice Society of the 31st century from the New Golden Age and Justice Society of America? (I think native to the future were Green Lantern, Doctor Fate (human), and Atom Smasher (those names are all my choices) as well as Xs), then time traveled includes Solomon Grundy, Huntress, and I guess Wildcat (not Ted). And Mordru who I guess is both?) Anyway, I don't expect they'd go far either but maybe for completeness.

Well, I can see I'm going to have a rough time, I've picked forty already!

My own criteria would be;

Avoid too much duplication. I love magical sorts like Glorith II, Harlak, Dr. Fate II or Dragonmage, but I obviously don't want all of them on the same team! Similarly, I might be intrigued by Echo, but I want sonic-Tyroc much more, and I don't want *two* sonic guys!

Try and pick at least some folks from each 'boot or AU. It would be easy enough to make a group of 25 from just the classic or reboot continuities, but I feel like there are some great folks in both continuities that would be left on the table, *and* some fun original characters in other places, like the Threeboot. I wouldn't want an all-original team without both Tellus and Kid Quantum II in it, for example!

Try *not* to cherry pick my favorites from other teams, like the Wanderers (Quantum Queen!) or Heroes of Lallor (Evolvo Lad, Life Lass, Gas Girl!).

thanks. I knew they were when I researched them, but I was doubting whether to add the issue number. Some of these entries are already getting to be so long...!

I do appreciate you sharing so others can look them up!

Most of these entries won't make it very far, anyway but I think it will be fun to make this list as broad as possible... we never know if a surprise obscure character will have a large following!

Sounds good to me, I'll research the team and add them in too

Edit: I'll go by this list here https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Justice_Society_(Pre-Zero_Hour)

that's the spirit! that's what I was hoping to get from this game folks having fun re: forming their own Legion lineups!

I'm not seeing The Persuader's Daughter (Lialla?) on the list. She's an addition I might actually vote for!

added

Just to add for completeness (and probably make Ibby scream ) I did not see Mwindaji or Otaki. They were (I think) Academy Members who went on a mission in the Legion books around 2012.

Some other SPs to consider could be Dvron, Quav, Dewar (Magno's partner in Legion Worlds) and Buck Bond (early reboot).

Some "Non-Powered" characters could include Amilia Crugg, Antonio Steffanuci, and Wildfire's Legion's support crew (a brother and sister IIRC)

Some potential Powered people are Elasti-Kid 5 (from right before the Earth blew up), Telekinesis (I think there was a 3boot Wanderer with that name), Sensei (Karate Kid's mentor), Soultaker (from that one panel of Doomsday Clock), Rush (the blonde speedster that was on the same satellite as Ivy), Flotsam and Jetsam (the flying fish aliens from around Lighte's time. They were in the recruitment issue)

Should the Legion of Executive Familiars be included from the DC 1 Million Special (Octus, Googal, Savitar, Phaeton and Wormhole) and what about Super-Turtle (he was on the poster)

Would Emerald Vi be different enough to include?

Also, perhaps the Knigts Tempus (they took Cos to the Future in the 3boot)

Finally (I don't know about these) the "Joke" characters: From Sergio Aragones Destroys DC - Bagel Boy, Cable-Installer Lad, Cotton Swab Boy, Cheryl Lad, Deja Vu Kid, Lox Lass, Nixon Lad, One Hit Wonder, Rejection Lass, and Windows Woman (all rejected applicants), From Elseworlds Special - Young Darkseid, From KFC: Crisis of Infinite Colonels - Colonel Lad (he worked in the Legion kitchen), and from an Ambush Bug Special - Julie Lad, and Appliance Boy (I'm pretty sure he's from the same issue. It's Ambush Bug as a blender).

Sorry to run long and I really only feel that the first two "need" to be added but my tastes run to the obscure and absurd so I have lists of these things. Just be glad I didn't list all the various animals that have been seen.) Also, I may have overlooked some of these on the list, If so, I apologise.

Mwindaji and Otaki definitely need to be included. Good call.

Rush is listed as Mara Williams, but perhaps adding the codename would be a good idea.

"Flotsam and Jetsam" are there as the Skreaks.

can't believe I missed Mwindaji and Otaki! thanks! these are definitely names I would regret missing.

Dvron is there.

I think I'll pass on most of thee other SPs. the ones I did have in there have close-ish links with the Legion AND were generally portrayed as being about their age. I know it's a fine line... Buck Bond is the one I'll add though because he's unique.

Sergio Aragones Destroys DC is a bit too far in my view... although... the Legion really did appear there right? I was thinking it was a parody of the team, not the team itself. but if it was the actual Legion appearing, then yes.

Knights Tempus can go in, if the Knights of Nadir did. I was just thinking that both of these are groups, and will stretch that 25-member limit

Steffanaci, Crugg. and Wildfire's Dead Earth crew (Gizi and Ziga) are going in

Young Darkseid, Colonel Lad, Julie Lad, Appliance Boy are going in!

Emerald Violet makes sense as an addition!

Legion of Executive Familiars, I'll say NO unless there's a more definite Legion connection.

that group you listed Telekinesis etc. are going in.

Oh, I actually meant for you to list the Knights of Nadir as individuals, not as a group. That's the big difference between them and the Knights Tempus , that we know the names of individual members.

I can add them based on your thread here:

https://www.legionworld.net/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=789776

And because we don't know individual identitiesof the Knights Tempus, I won't add them to the list