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Re: 3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
Chaim Mattis Keller #1039696 10/01/24 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
I also liked those stories quite a bit, as well as the re-make of the COMPUTO story to close out the 20/30 era. But it was the victory of that mindset that then gave us a ham-handed Dark Circle story, a not-very-entertaining Bizarro Legion story, and an absurdly introduced post-boot Wildfire. They started elevating homage over quality.

The interesting thing there? Those all happened during the McAvennie editorship vs Carlson's run. As I understand things, the Dark Circle story was rejected earlier by Carlson, then retrofitted in to fill the gap after McAvennie was pulled in to be book editor. That doesn't excuse the other two things, though. My main thesis is that Mike shouldn't have been editor of the Legion.


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Re: 3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
King of Snake #1039697 10/01/24 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by King of Snake
Turning Projectra into a snake during the Reboot.

This is very low on any of my lists as it didn't really fundamentally alter anything other than a Projectra/KK revised romance. Oddly, they did hint at a Sensor/Cham romance, but the writers were so hell bent on Cham/Ayla that they ignored the natural chemistry that Stern had created.


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Re: 3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
Invisible Brainiac #1039720 10/02/24 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
on the ethnicity bit, I would have liked to see more of existing characters. XS, Kid Quantum II, Dragonmage and many, many, more are all perfectly good characters who could have been rebooted onto the team.

other than that, I don't have a big issue with ethnicity switching or the like. it's not completely the same character, anyway, but a rebooted version...
Merely thought it symptomatic of the trend of transposing red-haired comic book characters--particularly in live action--
Lana Lang
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Wally West
Mary Jane Watson
Carrie Kelly
Just add Garth and Ayla to the list...

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Re: 3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
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Originally Posted by Gaseous Lad
Originally Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller
I also liked those stories quite a bit, as well as the re-make of the COMPUTO story to close out the 20/30 era. But it was the victory of that mindset that then gave us a ham-handed Dark Circle story, a not-very-entertaining Bizarro Legion story, and an absurdly introduced post-boot Wildfire. They started elevating homage over quality.

The interesting thing there? Those all happened during the McAvennie editorship vs Carlson's run. As I understand things, the Dark Circle story was rejected earlier by Carlson, then retrofitted in to fill the gap after McAvennie was pulled in to be book editor. That doesn't excuse the other two things, though. My main thesis is that Mike shouldn't have been editor of the Legion.

The first thing I always think of when I think of McAvennie is the fact that he confused Quislet and Skeets in one of his early lettercols. That itself made lose faith in him as a potential editor.

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I don't remember that at all, but it always did seem to me that his head wasn't in the game for whatever reason.

The only reason he had the gig was because he was Carlson's assistant, but it was quickly evident that he was bad at his job, at least as concerns the Legion.


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Re: 3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
Korbal #1039768 10/04/24 08:59 AM
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Destroying Jim Shooter's Evil Adventus storyline for a crossover subplot that essentially went nowhere.


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Korbal #1040700 11/06/24 07:27 PM
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1. Five Years Later. No, Im not saying it wasn't good storytelling. It was just a shark being jumped over.
2. Endless reboots, retrofits, restarts.
3. Ditching Superboy. Yes, I know, the legion has grown magnificently. But it all started on the Superboy Mythos. And when that was lost, when the patchwork make-ups were tried, as good as they were, something was lost. It just was. Legion has never, ever been the same. There was a time when it and titans outdid the League, for pete's sake. I know some folk like it better without Superpanelhog, and most times so do I, but something, the heart of the Legion, was lost.


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