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Justice League vs. The Legion of Super-Heroes #5 - Preview and Spoilers
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thanks for sharing, Nighty!! I find it interesting that Rimbor in this boot, does not like chaos and lack of control. though could tie in with the highly militaristic glimpses we caught of Jo's father, for example. Still, very different from the Rimbors in the Preboot and Reboot. lol - here you are from the never-ending roster of Legionnaires from the future! well, that was quite a debate about handing the ring over or not. Happy to see Brainiac 5 in favor... "Youre making the Legion look bad!" I chuckled at that, but it does fit Superboy';s age well, I'm curious enough to see what happens next!
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That is a different take on Rimbor. It explains why they weren't happy with Jo's idea for democracy, too big a change from a military hierarchy.
One aspect of this series I do like is no-nonsense, sourpuss Batman. He's a more challenging counterpoint to the Legion than ideal hero Superman. Don't suppose we'll learn what Planet Gotham is about in the next two issues.
Holy Cats of Egypt!
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Don't Stop Peelieving
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Not the way Bendis writes...
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Did this issue come out this week?? It's so hard to predict anymore! LOL
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Did this issue come out this week?? It's so hard to predict anymore! LOL It comes out Tuesday, August 23rd.
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Thanks Nighty!
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So, I just read it. Having 9pm Pacific time equal midnight EST has its perks.
We FINALLY find out who is behind the darkness.
But, I feel like they are literally making this up as they go along without knowing how to end it. Like they started with no end game in sight. And now they have to scramble for some kind of ending.
I guess next issue will determine whether any of this made any sense at all.
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Well, at least we find out who… but whew a lot sure is riding on that last issue!!
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I just read spoilers, and all I have to say is... If Bendis is gonna rip off old Legion stories, then surely he could do better than Hypertaxis. Ras al Ghul was a washout, so I don't see how Vandal Savage would work any better!
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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The big villain reveal is a character that hasn't interacted with this Legion (or any Legion, really), has no theoretical links to the Legion or any individual Legionnaires, and hasn't done anything of relevance with the Justice League in years. There were also no clues in any of the 5 issues leading up to the reveal, literally nothing. Nothing that would imply their identity. Nothing that would hint at a motive. The villain could have been anyone else and made just as much sense. And on top of all that...the most frustrating aspect of this entire mini-series...is that not one thing any of the Legionnaires or Leaguers have done for 5 entire issues has had any affect whatsoever on anything; they have merely been whisked from scene to scene against their will and flailed their arms helplessly. While delivering some of the stiffest Bronze Age-era expositional dialogue I have read from a modern book. The supposed central character Gold Lantern has had no agency and nothing he has said or done has mattered. None of the "clues" they discussed this issue amounted to anything, and then Triplicate Girl magically knew who it was?
I'm just at a loss here. There should have been hints and breadcrumbs, and the reveal needed to be much earlier in the story if there weren't going to be any other villains to impede the heroes. I don't see how the sixth issue can save any of this. I suspect it will be more of the same. The heroes will be passengers to everything happening around them.
Maybe I'll be wrong?
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Well said Alexander. Took the words out my mouth.
Still waiting for any of the heroes to act heroically.
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indeed, very well said, Alexander.
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At one point when each character weighs in on their thoughts as to what's going on Princess Projectra is referred to as White Witch. Stuff like this is really annoying to me.
I think some other writer out there should be given the responsibility of writing the Legion in any future stories. Someone who understands who they are and what they're about.
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So based on what I've seen online, which is the preview and the last two pages, I think I've read about half the issue and nothing truly significant happens in those other pages, so I think I'll pass on buying this issue, at least now. I may go down to the LCS today and take a look tho.
Based on what I've already read, I think a new and competent editor is also desperately needed.
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I'll also add, that I did ask someone else about whether or not Vi had any dialogue this issue.
If Issue 6 is published without her saying a word, it will be the first time an OG Silver Age Legionnaire was presented in a reboot without any dialogue across any of her appearances.
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I've run out of things to say about this era, other than this:
Even amongst the worst comics I have read, I can still get a sense that the creators cared about the characters in at least SOME capacity. In the past three years, I have only felt a gaping void resonating from where any sense of love and appreciation for the Legionnaires should be in Bendis's writing.
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Heart-stopping action - on the cover.
The person behind the Darkness was a surprise, but could just as well have been Mr. Mxy (who actually has more of a Legion connection).
Yeah, Vi didn't get any speaking parts. Invisible Kid got a panel (still invisible) and a lot of what was said by most of them didn't add anything to the character.
Holy Cats of Egypt!
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I actually flipped through this at the beach comic store. Didn't see much that was missing from the preview and other reviews, although I was happy to see that the Luornu story seemed to resolve.
But I didn't buy it. Me and the girls still have 10 more indie comics to get through.
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In this issue Dawnstar seems to have a particular connection to Gold Lantern. I don't recall, has that been shown in earlier issues?
"Everything about this is going to feel different." (Saturn Girl, Legion of Super-Heroes #1)
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I noticed that and no I don't recall any earlier suggestion of that. I guess I decided that it was more a reflection of Dawnstar's character and how she would know her teammates and relate to them at a more empathic level perhaps. I thought it was nice to see some character development although I wish there had been a lot more consistently.
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Does anyone else think it's sad how Gold Lantern is Bendis's pet OC and even with the hyping and focus, he's still done practically NOTHING with the character?
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Does anyone else think it's sad how Gold Lantern is Bendis's pet OC and even with the hyping and focus, he's still done practically NOTHING with the character? I don't find it sad, I find it amusing. So much for Gold Lantern's alleged awesomeness.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Imagine what would have happened if Bendis had HATED Gold Lantern!
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He'd not give him any dialogue.
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