Roll Call
0 Legionnaires (), 70 Murran Spies, and 2 Spider Guild Agents.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Time-Scope
I'm Thinking of a DCU character Part 6!
by Chaim Mattis Keller - 02/24/25 02:02 PM
Mon-El's Adventures In The Phantom Zone!
by Rob-Em - 02/24/25 11:07 AM
Recent Legion-verse sightings in DCU proper
by Ann Hebistand - 02/24/25 10:48 AM
Inane one word posts XXXIV - inanity
by Invisible Brainiac - 02/24/25 03:14 AM
"Death of a Legionnaire" -- LSH fan comic (DrakeB3004)
by Invisible Brainiac - 02/23/25 04:03 PM
Kill This Thread LXIII - Sticking to your Resolutions
by Ann Hebistand - 02/23/25 03:58 PM
Omnicom
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 9,671
C
Wanderer
Wanderer
C Offline
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 9,671
Yes, but Mano is a sympathetic survivor, villainous only in that he'll kill for revenge, the others are bloodthirsty cutthroats (perhaps Validus is merely a mindless monster, but Tharok could control him). Wouldn't Chu have been better off finding a fifth actual cutthroat? It was obvious that the other four knew one another (at least by reputation, or possibly because Chu told them she'd be forming them into a team), Mano was thrown into the group with no connection to the others at all and no knowledge of Chu's manipulations to get him there.


Chaim Mattis Keller
ckeller@nyc.rr.com
Legion-Reference-File Lad
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 40,810
Trap Timer
Trap Timer
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 40,810
Apparently the grouping wasn't entirely Chu's choosing, however.
Attachments
FatalFiveReboot.PNG

Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,371
G
Legionnaire!
Legionnaire!
G Offline
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,371
So the interesting thing about that frame is that (as far as I can remember, anyway), Mano wasn't really a criminal until he went on the vengeance spree against McCauley, which was AFTER Lyle joined the Legion.

Was he a criminal prior? Otherwise how would Mano be on Lyle's "Fatal Five" list? I guess its just an off-frame assumption?

Last edited by Gaseous Lad; 06/23/21 05:47 PM.

Interested in the Post-Zero Hour Reboot Legion? Check out:

The Reboot Legion Timeline

Fan Fiction: The Legion of Super-Heroes v4.1 (continuing the reboot from issue 126!) on LW or here (external)

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 40,810
Trap Timer
Trap Timer
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 40,810
I remember thinking at the time there was something super-suspicious about Lyle backing up Chu's rather goofy presentation here...

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 85,669
Unseen, not unheard
Unseen, not unheard
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 85,669
True, I don't think Mano had a criminal past before his revenge spree... and he in fact originally intended to kill himself. He only came after McCauley when he found he was immune to his own power.

Cos and Lyle at this point already thought Chu was fishy, so could have been Lyle playing along...?

Last edited by Invisible Brainiac; 06/24/21 12:46 AM.
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,767
R
Legionnaire!
Legionnaire!
R Offline
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,767
Original recipe Emerald Empress and Persuader are my faves, though I like Mano probably more than he deserves as well. I don't think Mano necessarily needs to kill a Legionnaire every time he appears, but he needs to kill someone occasionally or at least do some heavy property damage. As much as his power is deadly, I hardly ever recall him actually using it in the original continuity tbh...at least Persuader gets to do stuff like cut through lightning or gravity or Shady's darkness to prove he's actually hard to fight but Mano should have been doing stuff like that as well. I feel like he'd get more respect if he'd taken down a few Legion cruisers or bystanders or apartment buildings, or he showed that his own destructive energy could disrupt other energy attacks on him, stuff like that.

Tharok always seemed like way too much of a He-Man villain to stand out much to me - I'd be down with him controlling technology a la Computo and using that power to cause massive disruptions or even just commandeer the Legion's flight rings in battle...and I think Validus lost his appeal when they gave him a backstory. As other people have already mentioned, he works best as this force of nature type creature that defies comprehension. Making him Garth and Imra's kid is kind of wasted if nobody was ever going to do anything with that revelation from that point forward.

Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 113
Substitute
Substitute
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 113
I chose Validus as well because I like his connection to Darkseid and I liked his actions versus the Sun-eater and Pre-Crisis swatting Kryptonians power.

Emerald Empress was pretty neat when she had Sensor Girl end her and her exploits on that capital world

Mano had a great story in the reboot and the sun-eater storyline but other than that he's been massively under-utilized.

Tharok is probably the one that I'm least enamored with but I think the DnA technovirus twist was interesting.

Persuader is the merc for hire and the reboot with Karate Kid story was neat, the Original trying to conquer Shady's planet was neat, the 5 year later fight versus Kent was neat so he's been used to good effect.

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
Hyperpath Console
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
Ann Hebistand: Happy Birthday, wndola1, wherever you are. We'd welcome you back anytime.
Ann Hebistand: Happy Birthday, Mattropolis.
Ann Hebistand: Happy Birthday, Cleome
Invisible Brainiac: Happy happy birthday, cleome!
thoth lad: Hello Mattropolis!
Invisible Brainiac: Happy birthday, Legion Tracker!
Ann Hebistand: Did anyone have problems getting into Legion World earlier this afternoon?
Invisible Brainiac: I didn't have any issues, though I can't remember what time I tried this afternoon
Ann Hebistand: Okay, thanks.
Ann Hebistand: Happy Birthday, Ultra Jorge
Ann Hebistand: OptimusPrime < 40th Anniversary TOMORROW
Ann Hebistand: Today, 40 years ago... OptimusPrime
KryptonKid: Sgt Pepper taught the band to play...
Sarcasm Kid: I hope those of us in the southeast are okay and safe
Ann Hebistand: Thank you, Sarky.
Ann Hebistand: I was lucky, but many people were not. Please keep them in your thoughts. And if you can, make a charitable donation.
Sarcasm Kid: Am I gonna see anyone at NYCC this Thursday?
Nightcrawler: Staying local, sorry.
Fat Cramer: Hello Legion World. Missed you! Lots of catching up to do.
Gaseous Lad: Welcome back FC!!!! We missed you!
Ann Hebistand: Cramey! hug love
thoth lad: Great to see you Cramer!
Kappa Kid: Hope everyone is doing well! smile
Eryk Davis Ester: Wow! Cramer and Kappa Kid? Are we gathering up all fo the members for some big #200 anniversary event or something? wink
Invisible Brainiac: sweet! nice seeing ya, FC and Kappa!
Future: Hi, Legion World! Thanks for keeping the Legion alive!
Ann Hebistand: Hi! Good to see you here. I miss your comments on the Transformers G1 cartoon.
Eryk Davis Ester: Now Future? Wow!
Reboot: Truly, there was a future, once.
Sarcasm Kid: Happy Hanksgiving all you turkey droppings
Ann Hebistand: LOL. Belated Happy Thanksgiving to you, Sarky dear.
Sarcasm Kid: Candle is alive she's okay
Eryk Davis Ester: Santa brought thoth back!
Ann Hebistand: Huzzah!
Rockhopper Lad: The Rookery Holiday party is in progress! Pop by!
Ann Hebistand: I am so going to attend! Thanks, Rocky!
Nightcrawler: Updated us to version 8.0 of the software. Everything resets to the default settings. I'll be restoring things back to normal as I have time.
Nightcrawler: Sorry. Didn't realize the solution I had for the old PHP would screw up the new board.
Reboot: Wait, Version 8 actually happened shocked
Nightcrawler: Yeah. smile
Reboot: *insert "It Has Been 84 Years" clip here*
Invisible Brainiac: thanks Nighty, appreciate it smile
Ann Hebistand: Yes! Thank you, Nightcrawler. And Happy New Year, Legion Worlders! CalorieQueen
Rockhopper Lad: Howdy, Legion Worlders! love
Ann Hebistand: Hi, Rocky! hug love
thoth lad: Rocky!
Lard Lad: Yo, Adrian!
Ann Hebistand: "Gonna fly now"
Forum Statistics
Forums14
Topics21,095
Posts1,052,288
Legionnaires1,732
Most Online53,886
Jan 7th, 2024
Newest Legionnaires
Joe, Boy Kid Lad, Anonymous Girl, Mimi, max kord
1,732 Registered Legionniares
Today's Birthdays
Invisible Bot, Kid Marvel, Lethargy Lad
Random Holo-Vids
Member Spotlight
Jinx
Jinx
Where EDE hangs his nelly li'l Green Arrow Cap!
Posts: 105
Joined: August 2003
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0