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The first issue of the 6 issue Electric Warriors mini series is about to (or just has) hit the stands. The promotional text on the ad for the comic said "In the Cosmic Dark Age, these gladiators will fight for galactic peace or die trying." Connection 1: It's set in the future, 2735 to be exact. It could be setting itself up as a stepping stone to the Legion. Connection 2: That's clearly a Dominator on the front cover. Connection 3: The cape on the central character... It's Superman's cape. Readers of Legion v7 #23 saw Bouncing Boy carrying Superman's cape as a relic, in a belated attempt to connect the Legion to Earth-2 where Superman had been killed. The cape looks as though it's being used as a relic again, just set a couple of centuries prior to the Legion's time.
The series is set in the future of Kamandi's world. With all the retcons and reboots, I've no idea if that's connected to the legion or not. I do have a vague memory of Kamandi getting a Legion ring at some point after Infinite Crisis though. One of those dreadful prolonged Event things. I'll take a peek and report back...
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The gold guy looks like a Durlan and the exposed brain on the right suggests Coluan, or somebody super smart. Maybe they're not using that old cliché. Any bets the woman is a telepath?
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I was thinking the same thing about the guy with the brain. Brainy with guns. I hadn't thought about the others, but anything using Superboy, Cham, Brainy and Imra analogues would pretty much be the Legion. Hopefully it won't quite be as obvious as that. I have the book in my little paws and will report back once I've read it this evening.
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It will be interesting to learn what the "electric" component is. I'm also wondering if Tommy Tomorrow/Kamandi could show up here. Don't remember what year he was sent to after Crisis.
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My impression after brief googling about it yesterday is that it's supposed to connect Kamandi's world with that of the Legion, to show how we get from the Great Disaster to the Legion's time.
While I love both Kamandi and the Legion, I'm not really a fan of them being part of the same timeline, but whatevs.
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Electric Warriors 1Legion connections: Dominator (Cover) United Planets (page 1) – The organisation Earth is trying to get back into. Kal-El inspiration (page 4) – The Octopod race of a central character was inspired by the Age of Heroes, ushered in by Superman. Tellus? (page 4) – Kana the Octopod, uses “Lightspeak” with colours representing emotional states. Gil-Dishpan (Page 5) – They gave the galaxy a great compromise to prevent war. “Sprocked” (page 7) Starhaven? (Page 10) – Someone has wings that they use to cut a combatant in half. Gil-Dishpan (Page 14) – They appear on Earth to give the Electric Seed to Kana and “Oscar” Tyroc? (Page 16) War Cry’s name and silence remind me of both Black Bolt and Tyroc’s powerset. Superman’s cape (Page 17) – Last seen in Legion v7 #23 having been found by Bouncing Boy. Khundia (page 21) – Home to one of the characters approaching Covenant (probably the woman on the cover) Dominion (page 21) - Home to one of the characters approaching Covenant. (probably the Dominator on the cover) Summary Earth has recovered enough from the Great Disaster to seek access to the trial by combat held on Covenant under the governance of alien masters. Two beings represent Earth, and their outlooks and reasons for going are quite different. Another way of describing the plot is: Five characters, representing their worlds, will be placed into a perilous combat situation from which they may try and escape. Which is exactly how L.E.G.I.O.N. got started. That’s the thing with this series. It could just have been called Legion 2735. It could have linked up with Superman, Kirby or the Legion far more in the hype. But it’s stayed low key, almost as if it is testing the water. But if sales are a mark of how successful this test is, then the links might have been a better way to go. Kirby’s Great Disaster provides the division between mankind and the rest of the beings on Earth which fuels the motivations of the central characters. Their views provide one of the book’s strongest points. The delivery is unfortunately done through info dumping and the cliff hanger wasn’t anything gripping. Like the Kirby material, the numerous Legion and DCU links also help to give the book its scope and grounding. The art also raises the book and the colouring is particularly good. Next issue we’ll get to see other representatives from UP worlds. The last time I read a book where various DC analogs fought each other was in Countdown: Arena, one of the worst books I’ve ever read. So, Electric Warriors has a ridiculously low bar to overcome in issue 2. Plot Comments with Spoilers
It takes no time at all for the first Legion reference. On the first page the main character, Ian Navarro, is on the end of a beating from a bipedal lion. He tells us that the humans are now fighting for Earth’s Electric Seed, to rejoin the United Planets.
There’s an early glimpse of Kamandi in a flashback, so we’re looking at a society a few hundred years further on from The Great Disaster. Cortexin, the drug that changed the animals in Kamandi, is also mentioned, as are the human reserves. The Great Disaster is a solid enough foundation, and allows DC to mine yet more Kirby goodness. I’m also strongly reminded Chaykin’s Twilight that, like this issue, links up a lot of the histories between DC’s Sci-Fi books.
We get an interesting opening panel, but it’s a really clunky scene. Ian gives a history lesson while waiting to get punched. It’s enough to establish our “hero” as a Human First activist. We don’t see what instigated the fight, and he could easily have been the one to start it. He looks like Quentin Quire and has the attitude of a young Earth Man.
The next scene reveals more background, and in a more flowing way. Our next main character, Kana, brings us closer to the central DCU. S/he meditates in the ocean depths, in front of a sigil containing the symbols of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. It’s revealed that hir Octopod tribes conquered the Atlanteans at some point, then freed them (Aqua-tie in). Later, we learn that the Octopods freed all the humans.
Superman is a particular inspiration to Kana’s people, much as he was to the Legion. A surviving artefact of Superman is mentioned and it’s revealed that the Gil Dishpan arbitrate a great galactic compromise, and it’s related to both the granting of the Electric Seeds and battles on a planet called Covenant (I thought we were going to get Takron Galtos like the JLA 3000 thing). Some nice distinctions between the outlooks of human and Octopods are made.
Ian gets home in a bad way. It seems he was picked on as he looks just like his brother (I can see where this one’s going). He’s patched up by a friendly paramedic, which is an excuse to give us even more clunky exposition on his family. That’s to set us up for the next scene which seems to be a farewell breakfast for Ian’s brother. Oscar Navarro, looking uncannily like Ian, is the one who’ll be receiving the seed. Both Octopod and humans have concerns over the seed being split across two races, while others are happy to see humans receive the honour at all.
I think Ian already has powers with the uncanny ability he has for providing Infodumps.
Easter eggs include Joker fish, which used to be poisonous, but everyone know has a tolerance due to the toxic environment. There’s a little electrical symbol that might be the Flash symbol. We get a flash to Covenant, and its confirmed that those receiving the Electric Seed represent their world in lethal combat. The Gil’Dishpan arrive on Earth to bestow the gift of the Electric Seed. It seems Earth has been in the galactic wilderness for quite a while, and is submitting to the Great Compromise through the creation of the Electric Warriors.
It’s the first time the Gil’Dishpan have split a seed. If people are fighting for worlds, it seems unfair to allow two from the same planet to compete. Earth seemingly is unique and the event historic enough. They also allow “Oscar” to wear the cape of Superman on Covenant. That’s the indestructible cape of Superman. Quite a handy gift if you’re going to be entering combat.
Our two transformed characters are now Deep Dweller and War Cry. Not particularly inspiring, even if War Cry’s mask is shaped like the Wonder Woman logo. The two depart for Covenant. Kana tells “Oscar” of Superman’s heritage, and questions “Oscar’s silence on receiving it as a gift. With his mask, I had assumed “Oscar” had got powers like the Black Bolt and couldn’t say anything. But not so. “Oscar” feels that Superman is one of the heroes that weakened humanity’s ability to stand up for itself, allowing itself to eventually be conquered. It’s just what I like a Lex Luthor to be and it will be a shame to see “Oscar’s” mind change on it. In a flashback, it’s revealed that “Oscar” is really Ian, who took his place. It was telegraphed pretty early on, and I hope we get to see the repercussions of the switch back home.
Kana and Ian aren’t the only ones approaching Covenant. Khundia, Vrang and the Dominion are also mentioned. Presumably the guys on the cover are among those arriving. The Vrangs were a race from Krypton’s ancient past. They were guys with pistols, so I’m betting the man with the exposed brain on the cover is one of them. It also makes sense that the lady on the cover is the representative from Khundia. Handy that all the central characters show up at the same time.
Covenant is in sector 666 for further emphasis, just as Kana’s people had Kraken in the name of their home city. A robed figure watches the arrival of the Earth representatives. There’s a tease that the character not only has a history with Earth, but also tried to save it in his earlier years. The issue hasn’t been coy in connecting itself up to DC properties and this is no exception. The cliffhanger page reveals the figure as…Firestorm. It’s a bit of a disappointment. You could distract the Firestorm I know with a call from Doreen and a six pack of beer. He laughingly gets “The Fury of Firestorm” into his speech. ‘Stormy is the Lord Preceptor of Covenant.
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Electric Warriors 2Legion Connections: Warcry continues to wear Superman's cape (see #1 for connection). He can absorb, mimic or amplify sound echoing (well, echo probably) parts of Stealth and Tyroc. Kana is declared to have mastery over darkness and shape shifting - Tasmia and Reep? Regeneration/ healing powers also revealed. It's empathic like Raven of the TItans. Khund and Dominator as main characters. Dominator can use bio energy for a number of effects. Gil Dishpan appear again as administrators of the Covenant. Easter Egg: Earth still has Gingold supplies. Elongated Man got his powers from these, but they could easily lead to another Elastic Lad. Saturn is inhabited. They are telepathic too. Also shapeshifters and this one can generate magma blasts/energy - a Imra/Dirk/Reep combo of overpoweredness. Overly powered characters are a thing in this book. "sprock" Comments:
A quick read. Our two Earth heroes arrive on Covenant. They engage in their first battles. Disputes or claims are settled by the Electric Warriors. It's not clear if the claims have to have any justification. It could be enough that a world wants something, and has sufficient faith in their warrior to get it. Sort of undermines the system. Warcry loses while Kana wins. What looks like a fatal wound for Warcry is healed. The fights aren't necessarily to the death, although they certainly can be.
We meet the rest of the main cast; Serene the Khund; Dominator from the Dominion and Inceptor from Vrang. Serene and Dominator are already part of a subgroup on Covenant. It's run by Orthus and he says they all represent once strong and now fallen Empires. He could be orchestrating some resistance against the Gil Dishpan and Firestorm, who oversees the battlegrounds. Since overturning this system might well see a return to galactic war, it would be good to have a character on the team who doesn't share this resistance. Warcry's loss results in conflict between the "animals" and "humans" on Earth and the cliffhanger is that Kana and Warcry will have to fight each other next issue.
Not as good as most of the first issue. This issue introduces the cast and the major resistance subplot .Warcry is already starting to connect more with his fellow Earth representative, which adds more empathy to the cliffhanger.
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DC's prequel to the Legion continues... Electric Warriors 3Legion Connections The manufacturing logos over Serene in the cover are very much like those used in Hypernaturals, an Alt+Legion by Abnett and Lanning
Khunds: One of the central cast is a Khund and we see others.
Gil Dishpan: Administrating the covenant between worlds.
War Cry still wears Superman’s cape.
Bismoll. A warrior who eats things, through their hands, represents them.
Code against Killing. A number of the central cast kill to win. I wonder if a later Legion, again from a number of these planets, put in their code against killing as a consequence of what happened on Covenant.
Durlan biology. Deep Dweller survives a terrible head wound by having a different biology. It reminds me of the way Cham survived Roxxas in v4, when he revealed his brain isn’t in his head.
Dominators and reference to their world having been a superpower. Possibly a hint to Invasion.
The guards of the Covenant come from Janus, homeworld of Double Header.
Winged skeleton, possibly that of the warrior in issue one. Potentially with Starhaven links. Summary While the Gil Dishpan are administrating covenant and the battles between the representatives of many worlds, Firestorm suggests that he is doing it to keep a greater peace. It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. It’s certainly better than the Arena monstrosity of a book.
Last issue, Earth began a civil war. Far too conveniently, they happen to be the only world with two people on Covenant. So that means they can fight each other in the arena. This is only a six issue mini, so things have to be condensed. Having every world have two representatives might have bloated the cast and plot. Perhaps something pitting the two against each other from within Covenant might have been better than this fight happening five minutes after they got there.
The fight is over in two pages. In this book, that’s actually only 9 panels. War Cry is the victor. This is despite being beaten easily last issue while Deep Dweller was ruthless in hers. The role reversal isn’t very convincing.
The point here is that War Cry gets to express remorse for killing Deep Dweller. This is his arc to becoming a hero who cares for other races. Deep Dweller healed War Cry after his first battle and wonder if she’s not as dead as she seems.
Elsewhere, Inceptor from Vrang fights and defeats a Bismollian. He picks up memories of the defeated foe, seeing a memory of a fallen warrior being consumed at a group of aliens at an event hosted by the Gil Dish’pan. Firestorm would also seem to be aware of these events, even if he doesn’t participate.
The alien speaking to the Gil’Dishpan looks like the Crypt Keeper. Could it be that the peace accord is partly to provide raw materials to more alien creatures who would otherwise invade every world? There’s no hint on how the Bismollian happened to have this information.
Inceptor wants to tell Orthus, the leader of the resistance, of these events. Unfortunately, Orthus gets his throat ripped out by the teeth of Serene. He doesn’t get much in the way of dialogue or wisdom sharing before he dies. He seems to be a cut out character, useful for as long as it took to bring the others together.
Deep Dweller returns from the dead. She doesn’t keep her brain in her head, and has healed the damage. This happens just after we see some remorse, a sense of responsibility and acceptance of others from War Cry. It’s a shame that terrible things have to happen to others for him to realise all this. War Cry is the centre of attention again as Serene hooks up with him. She also hints that from her perspective that there’s an attraction between War Cry and Deep Dweller.
Inceptor tells his Dominion friend what he has discovered. His advice is to tell the others of the resistance. Inceptor could have just told them all at once, for all the difference it would have made to that plot thread. It would have deprived us of seeing a Dominator gain individuality. But that could have been done after the meeting.
Orthus didn’t get to build up much of a resistance movement. Nearly all of it has just arrived on the world. The five decide to find out the truth of what Inceptor learned. They escape their rooms and evade what little security there is. The Bismollian must have also provided maps with his memory. The five get to the right location as if they knew where it was on the world without any problems. We do see them combine their talents well, with War Cry using his sound based powers to extract the sound from a nearby room. The aliens are poring over the dismembered flesh of more fallen champions, including Orthus. Scenes in this issue suggest they consume the fallen.
The fears of the resistance are confirmed. Firestorm also watches the aliens, with plans to defeat them. Considering how powerful Firestorm is, it will be interesting to see if the hold the aliens have on the galaxy is justified.
The scope of the story has widened which is a good thing. There’s more going on beyond the war world that they fight on.
The central character doesn’t illicit much empathy. He was a bit more than an angry young man stereotype. But that has vanished as his contribution is to have other people suffer so he can learn life lessons. Despite having little personality, everything revolves around him this issue.
There’s way too much plot convenience. The characters know exactly where to go. Combat results change depending on what the plot needs rather than on skill previously shown. Firestorm and the Gil Dish’pan have plenty of monitors. All of which conveniently miss the resistance movement.
There’s 20 pages of story and 11 pages of adverts and one text page. The story is a little too disjointed as it is and these really start to get in the way. With so much space, could DC not have bumped up the story page count.
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I am picking this up because of the "Legion connection" but the connection is thin. It's interesting to see the galaxy from this viewpoint- some of the cosmic empires that we are used to (the Dominion, the Khunds) in different parts of their development.
But the main character is an a$$ and I really don't care for him. As Thoth outlined, the story surrounding him is ... not interesting. It's like he's a comicsgate fan who is being taught empathy and appreciation for diversity by maiming others.
There is WAY too much happening and none of it feels organic.
I like the character designs and appreciate the world that they're trying to build. The original Electric Warriors made no sense to me (it was the 80s and mainstream comics tried to be "indie") and I appreciate this approach to an old title (but I wonder who actually remembers that title). The growing storyline is more interesting than the "two champions enter, one leaves" gladiator thing.
The reveal of "what's really happening" was darker than I expected, and somehow that made me like the book more. I don't know if it will read better as a trade because of the disjointed storytelling that Thoth describes
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The quickest skim as this joins my pile of things to be read.
But Evillo gets a direct mention and his world is Tartarus.
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Ok this series is finally coming together Several Legion worlds form the spine of the group - Earth, Dominators and Khundish but also mentioned are Tartarus, Starhaven, Saturn and the Gil'Dishpan Watching the global development issue is fascinating, and definitely reflects on how international development issues are happening here on Earth (like all good science fiction, it reflects our world back at us)
The most recent issue had one of the best reveals I've seen in recent comics history - not specifically Legion, but still cool
Kinda glad it's a 6 issue mini
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The double payoff was certainly good enough.
But the battle before it seemed a little off. The Preceptor never really used his powers in the way we know he could. That he was forced into that position seemed a little odd too. Perhaps everyone had become so complacent regarding the games they didn't bother with security.
The reasoning behind the Gilded was interesting, but still feels a bit underdeveloped. I'd like to know why they chose those rewards as part of the deal.
The combatants seemed to split evenly at the revelations. In the end they were willing to listen. Without stronger evidence, I'm a little surprised they went for it. I'd have liked to have seen how the new was received on their home worlds, or know if had even reached them.
There was mention of Kandor and an extension to the Martian Manhunter/ J'Emm civilisations.
While the payoffs had strong historical Legion connections, there was also a mention of a Winathian insurgency. Perhaps the Ranzz kids didn't pick Korbal randomly a few hundred years later.
There's some significant implications in this series, if it's being kept in the main DCU timeline. I've not really heard any buzz around it though.
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So Electric Warriors ends... And it's an ending that is rushed, convenient and - largely, for me - unsatisfying.
The last panel is a nice nod to the UP.
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So Electric Warriors ends... And it's an ending that is rushed, convenient and - largely, for me - unsatisfying. I really didn't feel engaged with it at any point through the series. Which is a bit odd, as a lot of the plot points aren't terrible. Something else else went wrong in the delivery or the pacing? Let’s have a look at the pluses and minuses! (listed beside each point) SPOILERS! Issue #1+ Mankind is ruled by the other life forms on earth (a sort of Great Disaster projection). There's lots of little throw away DCU references throughout and they are done well. - Our angry young man stereotype does get an arc through the series. However, it comes at a cost as he only learns when something terrible happens to someone else.He's not empathic to the reader, his powers aren't very well defined, and I don't feel that he had to struggle much through his arc where it all fell into place for him very easily. His final battle against his brother doesn't have much impact other than closing off the character arc. - Noone else gets two seeds. It's explained away in an Earthcentric way, but it's there just so we have a subplot. Cliffhanger to issue 2 and start of 3 as the two fight as well. It takes to issue 6 for the payoff for this one. It's more of an easter egg than a plot point. + Deep Dweller is an interesting character. Actually, the main cast are fine, even if their little arcs can be a bit basic. The Dominion guy getting a name, The Khund overcoming the curse of her power, The tin man character getting a … oh hang on... - In addition to getting powers, our main guy gets to go into battle in an invulnerable cape. How come no one else gets invincible addons to take into combat. "Oh, war cry falls thanks to that sniper rifle the Venusian got to bring into the arena." + The Superman cape does have a payoff. + The pay off of switching places is fine, and is the mini cliffhanger of the issue. This will also have a payoff in the final issues. But why did it take that long for someone on Earth to get in touch about the switch? - Firestorm appearing out of nowhere. He wasn't at all convincing in his position, considering his power. + there is a pay off to it having to be Firestorm. Issue #2- The name of the guy from Saturn changes between #2 and #5. Payoff fails. + The leader of the rebellion, Orthus, seems to have got his last bunch of rebels killed. None of them appear here. - Terribly convenient healing powers save our main character. + Decent issue cliffhanger as the peoples of Earth turn on each other and the two must fight. Issue 3 - The leader of the rebellion and seemingly its only member snuffs it to galvanise our main cast. - Deep Dweller has more handy healing powers. Our main character wins this fight when he lost so badly first time round and when Deep Dweller should really win. + The Gilded behind the scenes is an interesting layer. But it doesn't go anywhere in the series. There's no explanation as to why Firestorm can't tackle them or how they maintain their economic control. + Decent payoff as the rebels find out the secret of their warground. Issue 4- The rebels don't attack the gilded because there are too many of them. The rebels have superpowers and the gilded have shown none at all. Plot convenience. + BIG Legion points for having a centaur from Tartarus (and an Evillo mention) - BIG minus points for using Superman's cape to kill someone. Superman appears at the end and leaves with a wink. I guess the code vs killing comes much later. - One of the gilded is also a gladiator confusing the secret behind the wargames. - A gladiator makes a challenge undermining all the other challenges being between conflicting world. + Decent payoffs with the rebels being pushed into more and more conflict and the loss of one of them at the end. Issue 5- Tiresome subplot of female character throwing herself at lead character. - Sacrifice of the character at the end of last issue is another example of someone suffering so the lead character can progress. - Zero security around the wargrounds - Only token fight when the rebels tell everyone about the gilded, with no evidence to back it up. - Firestorm intervenes directly. Zero minions and the Gil Dishpan do nothing for the entire series. - Firestorm could easily have won this battle. Even with the nice arc for the Khund character + Reveal of the brothers switching places doesn't bother the rebels who have seen him become something better. But it should have bothered everyone else. + Like #1 there's the payoff of Firestorm being Luthor and Superman before another payoff in the return of Warcry's brother. Issue 6- As no one was bothered about Warcry having taken his brother's place, why should anyone bother about the brother returning. Its a personal battle when the scope has already become wider. - Both brothers get exactly the same look and powers. So the seeding process isn't random. - Infodump from Luthor - Luthor has conquered hundreds of thousands of worlds. But then why is he subservient to the gilded? - Not much from Superman. He's a bit of a cipher here, not getting past the DC 1 million series that has been used as inspiration. - Why would Superman ask for Luthor to be kept in a prison at the centre of a planet guarded by all the gladiators? Baffling - Sure, they beat Luthor but are the rebels the best leaders for a United Planets. The Legion served the people while the rebels here are ruling them.
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The final issue of Electric Warriors, set a couple of hundred years before the Legion, could have acted as a lead in to the classic Silver Age of the Legion with some minor tweaks.
The United Planets are formed. They have superpowered representatives. That could easily act as inspiring the structure of the Legion. Even if retcon Brande is kept, the structure could still act as the source of the Legion team.
The Legion were inspired by Superboy. But in Electric Warriors, Superman is still alive and living in the sun (taken from Morrison's DC 1 million for some reason). The inspiration for the Legion is around, and there's every reason for him to live into the Legion's time.
Lex Luthor is also still alive. Both he and Superman have survived for several hundred years by this point. There's no reason to imagine he won't survive for a couple of hundred more. Perfect for taking up the role of Luthor in all those old Legion stories. No time travel/ mucking around with 21st century continuity required.
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That is a really good eye, thoth lad. Now that DC has basically said everything is canon, there is nothing short of Editorial and imagination blocking anyone's favorite version of the Legion from returning.
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