Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Is it just me?

I have remained a loyal Legion fan through all of its incarnations from the Silver Age on up.

Naturally, I've liked some versions of the Legion more than others.

But...this is the first time that I don't feel emotionally connected to the characters. I don't know why that is. I enjoy Mark's often clever (and humourous) dialogue and love Barry's artwork.

In the past, certain Legion characters had been tweaked or completely changed or didn't exist at all but I always felt, on some level, they were still my Legion.

I don't know why but the characters, this time around, just don't feel "right" to me.

That being said...I'm a lifelong addict and will never give up the book.

I always want to say "yes it is you!"

I do get what you mean by not being emotionally connected to the characters. (I did drop out during the 5 year gap period). I think because this is a second reboot and because this reboot is in terms of "this isn't a grafting of the old stories onto this series". I kind of feel like I had stopped reading and was picking up the series for the first time in 20 years. The characters are familar, but at the same time feel like I don't know them.

It could also be (for me) that fact that I am growing older.

I sort of feel this way also. I'm enjoying the stories and absolutely love Barry's artwork but...

I think it may be because these Legionnaires aren't "heroic" in the same way that other versions have been. These are more like rebellious teenagers that are doing good in spite of themselves as opposed to true heroes. At least that's how I feel about them.

I truly am hoping that this perception I have of them changes as we get further along. I think at least Mon will have some of that heoric idealism to offer the group.

Guess we will see.

enough of them are close enough that I can accept them as versions of their predecessors.

It's not just you. This is a Legion book in name-only as far as I'm concerned. I can't believe that a book featuring some of my fave characters in comics could draw so little emotion from me but that's just how empty I feel this whole book is in every way - writing, artwork, plotting, everything.

I dropped it ages ago but still flick through it at the store hoping its going to get better. It's not. So I'm one those hoping for another total de- or re-re-re-boot. Just getting a new creative team won't cut it for me as I think the Legion 'world' that Barry and Mark have created here is as much a failure as their bad stories have been and would prove just as much of a handicap to the new writers.

And I had been one of Barry and Mark's biggest fans before this book too. Such a shame.

I'd have to say that I don't feel any great affection for these versions of the characters, but, then again, I was feeling this way throughout most of DnA's tenure as well. Honestly, the last time I was really invested in the "currently published" Legion stories was probably about the time they killed Colossal Boy (er... "Leviathan") in the last boot.

I feel guilty not loving this book, and I will continue buying it for now, but it really isn't the Legion to me. It's 'a' Legion of Super-Heroes, but they just don't feel like the 'family' I grew up with. It's like a really, really long Elseworlds tale, and not nearly as entertaining to me as Superboy's Legion.

I *did* give up on the Legion during the last couple reboots / retcons. I've only got a few issues here and there involving characters like Monstress and Kid Quantum II and Shikari, so I'm even more curmudgeonly than most. It seemed like the last few years every time I grabbed a Legion comic off the rack out of curiousity, there was some horrifically over-the-top earth-plague/robotican invasion/blowin' up planets apocalyptic crap going on, and yet none of it was within light-years of the quality of the apocalyptic stuff going on during the Great Darkness Saga. It was just blowin' stuff up for the sake of blowin' stuff up. There were a bunch of characters I didn't recognize, like Gates and Gear and XS, and a bunch of my old friends like Sensor (a snake?), Element Lad (dead and / or insane?), Lightning Lad (dead, again?), Violet (growth powers?), etc. were unrecognizable to me.

No matter how much this reboot isn't 'the' Legion to me, and has missed a lot of the themes important to the team (like a team of *heroes*), it's still miles better than the last version, IMO.

I'll stick it out. If the comic dies too quickly, Dan Didio is more likely to say that the Legion doesn't have a big enough fanbase to warrant a monthly title, rather than realize that the 'Legion fanbase' would perhaps be more loyal to a product that resembled the archetypal Legion.

I'm more concerned with overall theme, than nitpicky details. Karate Kid's sacrifice was a big deal. Sensor being a snake in the last reboot completely trashed a powerful part of Legion history. Karate Kid being alive in this reboot does likewise.

Do I *want* Karate Kid dead? He was one of my two favorite Legionnaires, and I used to buy his comic book every month at the drug store down the street from my house. But he died, and bringing him back cheapens the entire thing. Nobody cares if Jean Grey dies anymore, it's actually something *her own loved ones* joke about in the comic book. I don't want the Legion history to likewise become a farce.

I'm totally cool with Star Boy changing skin color. I've got no problem with Chameleon (Boy) not really having a gender. I even prefer Shikari to Dawnstar, since the *important* part of Dawnstar isn't her fringed buckskins-of-space, it was her relationship with Wildfire and her proud warrior nature.

But I don't like the Legion of Super-*Heroes* being a punch of punks who celebrate breaking laws and the Legion Charter being replaced by the words, 'Eat it, grandpa.'