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So, can Gim and Yera make a baby?
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On the one hand, they're different species and stuff.
On the other hand, Durlans can duplicate natural abilities (but not super-powers) of other species. So, arguably, when Yera becomes human, she could duplicate a human reproductive system? Would she have to remain human for the entire pregnancy, though? Would the kid be fully human? Could he inherit the Durlan meta-gene?
What do you guys think?
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Given the nature of Durlans, it's likely that Yera could make a baby without Gim (or anyone else, for that matter), just by splitting off some of her own biomass and nurturing it until it can thrive independently. (Same for Cham, for that matter. While we've seen orange-antennae-head humanoid Durlans in male and female forms, their green tentacle forms don't necessarily have genders, and even if they *do* have some sort of baby-making caste and non-breeders, there's no guarantee that a 'breeder' will take a female humanoid form, or a non-breeder would take a male humanoid form, to the utter confusion of humanoids making unwarranted assumptions...)
I don't think it's likely that Gim's DNA would end up being any part of a baby Durlan, without some sort of medical / scientific intervention. (This being the 30th/31st century, that sort of medical intervention should probably be an outpatient procedure for most common non-xenophobic species, if not something one can just buy over the counter, or synthesize at home!)
But, yanno, comics, so it's entirely possible that they can make kids without issue. (Ditto other mixed species couples, like Brainy & Kara or Mon & Shady.)
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I'm with Set (as a good Alt+ID should). I think they reproduce asexually. We've seen fragments of Durlans operate independently before, and that's where I imagine baby Durlans come from.
It could well be that Reep and Yera were parts of still living Durlans from home. Perhaps Durlan culture has *all* new Durlans come from some as yet unseen ancient Durlans.
There would have to be some societal control else the planet would be covered in them, and Durla hasn't the resources to support that. Unless they've all shape changed into the radioactive rocks we see all the time.
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Can they make a baby? I'm not sure, but they can have fun trying!
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Can they make a baby? I'm not sure, but they can have fun trying! LOL I think we have our quote of the week.
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Pervy adult me says, this will require some observation.
But the old skool "Adult Legion" fan in me says sure, why not!
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Absolutely, yes. (Aside: Durlans have at least two clear genders: Chameleon Boy's mother was named Zhay. His father, of course was Ren Daggle / Rene Brande. At least in one universe.) Durlans can shape-shift at a molecular level, so Yera could certainly replicate human DNA. It would not even be necessary to take human form, merely to create a single, accessible human gamete. In fact, by using Gim's DNA as a template, Yera and Gim could have a child that was 100% Gim Allon material: possibly a clone, but also possibly an unique individual, due to genetic scrambling. Both sons and daughters would be possible. Disturbingly, Yera could also replicate another individual's biome, and they could have a child who was, for example, half-Gim Allon, half-Chuck Taine. 31st-century technology should also be able to easily produce babies by fusing any two biomes, no matter how alien. There are undoubtedly even more possiblities: one example would be a Durlan-Human chimaera, for instance. Now if we can only overcome the problem of their being separated in time by a thousand years...
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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So,
No DNA proofing possible.
Can't rely on the old, "he looks just like me."
Wasn't Gim Jewish? Whoa, so much fun.
You're gonna do what to my what? Eh, they did that last week, see!
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Wasn't Gim Jewish? Whoa, so much fun. Unless things have changed over the next thousand years (which they may well have!), Jewishness is passed down along the mother's line, so the baby won't be Jewish. ... Unless Yera injects some of her Durlan cells into Gim and makes *him* be the 'mother' to their baby! Tnat's the problem with earth boys sexing up alien wimmin. You never know when one of them is going to ram an ovipositor down your throat and leave *you* pregnant.
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Meh, Yera could always convert. http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-to-JudaismMaybe this is why they haven't had kids yet.
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Pretty sure it was established in 5YL that Durlans were revealed as hermaphroditic! Zhay and Ren impregnated each other, as was the norm!
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Pretty sure it was established in 5YL that Durlans were revealed as hermaphroditic! Zhay and Ren impregnated each other, as was the norm! Kinky!
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Pretty sure it was established in 5YL that Durlans were revealed as hermaphroditic! Zhay and Ren impregnated each other, as was the norm! Kinky! Ren the cartoon chihuahua is a Durlan? That explains a lot!
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Ren the cartoon chihuahua is a Durlan? That explains a lot! I always suspected that The Brain, of Pinky & the Brain, was secretly a Coluan, so that tracks. I wonder what other cartoon Icons are secretly Legion aliens? Yakko, Wakko and Dot as a Carggite triple? How deep does this rabbit hole go?
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Yeah, but only if they know one another's soul names first. Oh, wait. Wrong fandom.
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The big question being posed here is: how do you circumcise a Durlan?
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Is the question not more how often?
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It might be possible given comic book plot devices. I think it's a cool pairing especially if you think about native Martians being shift-shapers. Do you think there would still be white Martians left?
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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It might be possible given comic book plot devices. I think it's a cool pairing especially if you think about native Martians being shift-shapers. Do you think there would still be white Martians left? Tom McCraw stated that R.J. Brande might have been a white Martian, though definitely not everyone's favorite green Martian, J'onn J'onzz, as so many have speculated.
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I like the idea of RJ Brande being a White Martian. It's a little simplistic that an entire species would be "good" (Green Martians) while the others are "evil" (White Martians).
That being said, I think in a universe where Shvaughn/Sean can temporarily change genders by popping a pill it wouldn't be too hard for sentients of any species (or gender) to procreate with each other.
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Durlan babies should have been written at least once. Fun possibilities all-around. How do you change a Durlan baby? You don't, they change themselves.
Really, Durlan baby poop. Giffin should have covered that.
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