Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Now wait a minute!!! [N52 Superboy #26 Spoilers]

OK, so according to the final issue (for now, one hopes) of the Legion, it was revealed that our favorite 31st century heroes are actually from Earth-2.

And yet, in the latest issue of Superboy (#26), it is revealed that the late Kon-El is destined to help form the Legion.

Except that the Legionnaires clearly remember it being Kal-El and not Kon-El, as evidenced by early issues of Action Comics.

Could it be that the folks at DC are already back-pedaling on their recent Legion decisions?

E2 Superman isn't actually dead. He's an insanely evil muderer corrupted by Darkseid, but he didn't die in E2 #1.

(And Levitz said in one of his valdedictory interviews that it wasn't meant to be E2 specifically, just some generic Other Earth from DCFU-Earth).


That version of the team, from the "Age of Universo" which included Umbra and Sensor (snake), wiped themselves out at the end of Morrison's AC run.


My bet is that the version of the team from the last run is as gone as anything ever gets in comics, and that the next go-round - whenever that may be - will be a fresh reboot.

Here is the screen shot from the last page of Superboy #26. It is definitely the retroboot Legion!! Could (gasp!) the Legion still be in DC canon after all?

If this *is* the start of something new, I propose we name it the "Wolfboot"!

Well it has been over five minutes. More than enough time for the committee in charge to do several volte-faces.

I'm just going to cherish the Levitz Legion being intact somewhere in the DCU.

The people in charge can change their minds as often as they like. We can have clone legions/ reboot Legions/ combination Legions/ Evil Legions/ optimistic legions/ grim and depressing Legions in the interim. What concerns me is that they'll see that every reboot weakens it further, bring back the Levitz Leigon, and ruin that too.

When has Legion ever been a peace keeping force? I Guess I never thought of them as anything other than a team that fights bad-guys. Never thought of them as a political entity.

That's the UP propaganda Blockade Boy. Don't listen to that. The Legion reinforce the United Planet's hold on the fringe worlds, while simultaneously providing a practical deterrent to Khundian/ Dominator incursions.

Those crooks don't escape from Takron Galtos all the time. The UP let them go to spread fear & terror. Then they allow the Legion to go in and take them down. It's a reminder to the locals as much as anything else.

I didn't think of them as a Warrior-Group. Since when was "hero" such a dirty word DC?

"Legion of Super-Heroes" is so outdated. I look forward to reading the adventures of the "Warrior-Group of Peacekeepers"!

The Postboot Legion at least was meant to be a) a symbol of UP unit, b) an interplanetary "protection" force, and c) de facto ambassadors to all UP worlds. They were given police powers by the UP - although at the beginning they were funded by RJ Brande, the UP still had quite a bit of oversight.



Cos, Garth, Chuck and Thom look like they have the same costumes, but Imra's is different. And they could have the same questions but still be a different version of the Legion



I prefer "Teenage Death Squad" myself

Long Live the Peace Warriors of Somebody's Future!

Just what I was thinking when I was posting.

Hey guys, at this point I will take ANY version of the Legion!
These legionnaires pictured here in the latest issue of Superboy don't look that bad, .... do they?

I'll take any GOOD version of the Legion Just not too optimistic about DC's track record right now



It's about time Gates gets vindicated!

Depends upon your point of view, I guess but, based on Thom's beard, I'd have to say that this is clearly the adult Legion (AKA: Levitz, preboot, etc), while I've generally been a fan of the teen Legionnaires (Zero Hour Legion but NOT the threeboot).

Yeah, with numerous (I didn't say "a Legion of", I didn't) variations. it's always going to be divisive. I appreciated the Levitz legion more than ever in v6 & v7, and I'd not be a fan of another reboot.

I really liked the Adventure run that was a few years back showing the early Legion. I was thinking at the time they were going to re-boot again with them.

I wouldn't mind if they call the book The Legion again. I'm not so nostalgic that they can't change anything.

That was a run I haven't read. I'm generally not too keen about constantly going over old ground. Of course, with every reboot they have to explain things to new readers, but I generally don't pay too much attention. I think the last retcon I read was some awful timberwolf reboot, possibly as part of the Legion Lost series.

Ugh! That Timber Wolf story was wretched.

I didn't care much for Leviz's Secret Origins mini-series (except for the always welcome Batista artwork), but it was far better than that.

I've been a DC fan all my life, but at this point I think the Legion would be better off if Marvel owned them.

And Hickman wrote it.

The Legion at Marvel:-

- Every Legionnaire there has ever been would be part of one of the many Marvel Legion team books.

- Everyone would move across the various teams in huge crossover events each year.

- Ferro Lad would be the Legion's equivalent to Thunderbird and would stay dead.

- Ferro Lad's brother would be the angry Adult Legion version, before finding out the truth and joining, as per #300 and Thuderbird's brother.

- Lots of Legionnaires would die. But they would all get better, burdened only with implausible resurrection stories.

- Nightcrawler would be the first X-Man to travel in time and join the Legion for swashbuckling space adventures.

- The Legion would be descendants of the Imperial guard. Or there would be a lot of crossovers between the races the Imperial guard represent.

- A lot of Cockrum designs would receive a good dusting off for inclusion in the Legion again.

- Timberwolf would get an adamantium skeleton very early on. Brin recalls his father working on metallic frames. But what he considered to be android shells were actually adamantium skeletons.

- Keith Giffen is unlikely to be around to torpedo any of this post, with either the best or worst of intentions.

- The Bierbaums get hired to do a Legion Max title, but Marvel run scared at all the transgendered, adulterous, protean Dark Circle cultist Legionnaires that suddenly appear.

- Hickman writes some of the Legion books, stating that all of the sweeping, epic sci-fi he's been writing was just warming him up for his dream assignment.

- After a particularly costly encounter with the Time Trapper, another conspiracy splits the Legion. Marvel get a team with something concrete to actually avenge for the first time. Avengers 3000 is launched. Kevin Maguire draws it as an "up yours" gesture to DC. It's a huge success.

- Timberwolf gets a teleportation power to enable him to appear in every Legion book.

Gotta love the irony of that one, considering that Nightcrawler was originally supposed to be a Legionnaire but the 'Powers that be' at DC (at that time) turned it down.

For the continuity list, do you have a reference for this?



What exactly was wiped out? The Action Comics story had 1) the Adult Legion and 2) Superman's memories of being with the Legion as a boy. Was only this Adult Legion version wiped out, or was the entire history, including Superman being a member as a boy, wiped out?

http://www.newsarama.com/19057-levitz-giffen-legion-ending-opens-door-for-justice-league-3000.html

Incidentally, I don't get what you're trying to do with the continuity thread - juggling pre- and post-Flashpoint in one list is juggling two sets of irreconcilable facts.


They went back to the present with the intent of changing their entire history. I suppose Superman may still remember, but you know how THAT goes.

The inclusion of Sensor in particular, however, seems to mark it as an intentionally different timeline though.

I agree that Sensor's presence means it's a totally different timeline, unless you posit that Projectra/Sensor Girl was just casting an illusion of being a sentient snake-like creature the whole time