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Re: Dan DiDio: "We publish comics for 45-year olds"
Reboot #784053 08/20/13 03:13 PM
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I would say other comics do "write for '45 year olds'" or an adult and cultured audience ... but IMO and FtMP DC writes for the psycho killer doll Chucky.
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in other words ... very disturbed children.

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Another case of a business not even understanding its target market shake

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Okay, not new but I just noticed this. Dan Didio on why Karen Berger's Vertigo was broken:

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Mr. DiDio said it would be “myopic” to believe “that servicing a very small slice of our audience is the way to go ahead.”


They want to sell to the broadest section of 45-year olds possible!


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mad Didio is SUCH a fuck-face! mad


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The most mature thing I can think of saying is Didio deserves for someone to do to him what happened to William Wallace at the end of Braveheart.

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
The most mature thing I can think of saying is Didio deserves for someone to do to him what happened to William Wallace at the end of Braveheart.


Well, that would be consistent with both the grotesque violence that DC passes off for entertainment/storytelling these days and the torture he puts us through by killing our childhood every week! lol


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Come on, guys. Beheading someone just because he publishes comics we don't like? Doesn't that seem a a bit, I don't know, irrational?

Going back to what I've said many times before: If you don't like DC's current output, don't read it. Find something else to become a fan of. Nothing is going to be the same as it was when you were nine or twelve or fifteen. The world has changed, and so have we. It's scary, I know. DC is not writing comics for us. Move on.


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Originally Posted by He Who Wanders
Going back to what I've said many times before: If you don't like DC's current output, don't read it.


I don't. I've dropped every single DCFU title from my pull as of the final issues of Legion and Dial H.

However, I reserve my right to be embittered by once-beloved comics being beyond crappy and driving me away from them. I also reserve the right to occasionally express my exasperation with this with some spirited exaggeration! nod wink


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I reserve the right to behead, castrate, disembowel and torture those whose decisions offend me! I'm an American, dammit!


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Originally Posted by He Who Wanders
Come on, guys. Beheading someone just because he publishes comics we don't like? Doesn't that seem a a bit, I don't know, irrational?

Going back to what I've said many times before: If you don't like DC's current output, don't read it. Find something else to become a fan of. Nothing is going to be the same as it was when you were nine or twelve or fifteen. The world has changed, and so have we. It's scary, I know. DC is not writing comics for us. Move on.


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My views are my own and do not reflect those of everyone else... and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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From Reboot's link. Wheeler writes:

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...Marriage does traditionally close characters off to other romantic entanglements in a way that’s less true for other types of relationship. It turns every love triangle into adultery, every break-up into separation or divorce. It creates an ending for characters who aren’t meant to have endings. It’s tough to undo. In superhero comics it’s tidier to reverse a death than to reverse a marriage...


It's great, hearing him justify DC's obnoxious attitude toward marriage and seemingly unable to realize how contradictory he's being. He thinks DC could do well by aiming for the demographic of men (apparently even grown women don't read comics once they become Mommies. Yeesh.) who want to buy comics for their daughters.

So... on one hand, let's tell the female readership that their only role in comics is to provide no-strings-attached sex appeal for almost exclusively) male heroes and their (exclusively male) readers. On the other hand, let's say that this attitude is just the sort of thing that a grown (exclusively male) parent should want to pass on to his own daughter via three bucks worth of skimpy reading material heavily saturated with great big ads.

Wheeler tries to have his cake and eat it, too. I'll put this as gently as possible even though I'm fuming: It doesn't come off well. [scowl]

It's also telling to examine DC's bluntly-stated hostility to the idea of marriage or long-term male/female pairings in light of what happened to the Legion over the last couple of years.


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It's easier to undo death than marriage?

Holy sweet everloving f***!

Every day I'm happier and happier I dropped everything DC publishes

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Originally Posted by Viridis Lament
It's easier to undo death than marriage?

Holy sweet everloving f***!

Every day I'm happier and happier I dropped everything DC publishes


Could have been worse.

He could have said they were the same thing.

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Cleome nails it on why Wheeler is full of **it.

Especially good point on how non-leads are reduced to the role of providing no-strings attached sex, and then to later be killed off or reduced even further to the role of jerk / psycho / someone not deserving of the relationship.

Then there is the fact that the "meet, fall in love, start caring for one another" phase is easiest thing to write in terms of relationships. Just like the easiest thing to do in real life. Everyone has read or seen a trillion stories with this strait forward bit. Much harder is showing any real depth to a relationship when the glittery "puppy love" phase is over, when things are complex and its not as glamorous but so much more realistic. But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.

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I always had a cynical feeling that comic book editors who were talking about how unrelatable married folk are were reliving their own failed marriages through the medium.



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Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
Cleome nails it on why Wheeler is full of **it.

Especially good point on how non-leads are reduced to the role of providing no-strings attached sex, and then to later be killed off or reduced even further to the role of jerk / psycho / someone not deserving of the relationship.

Then there is the fact that the "meet, fall in love, start caring for one another" phase is easiest thing to write in terms of relationships. Just like the easiest thing to do in real life. Everyone has read or seen a trillion stories with this strait forward bit. Much harder is showing any real depth to a relationship when the glittery "puppy love" phase is over, when things are complex and its not as glamorous but so much more realistic. But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.


Well I deserve comics to read too!

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Originally Posted by Set
I always had a cynical feeling that comic book editors who were talking about how unrelatable married folk are were reliving their own failed marriages through the medium.



right.

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.


I thought that was the feeling from DC for quite a number of years. Even so, the casual misogyny of DCNu raised an eyebrow.

"We don’t publish comics for kids. We publish comics for 45-year-olds."

If that's the quality of book they think their target audience should be reading, it says a great deal about what they think of their target audience.

Of the DCnNu books, there would be very few I'd give to a kid. Where they think the next generation of comic fans is coming from is a mystery.




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[snip]

Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
Cleome nails it on why Wheeler is full of **it.

...Much harder is showing any real depth to a relationship when the glittery "puppy love" phase is over, when things are complex and its not as glamorous but so much more realistic. But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.


It's kind of sad that the average sitcom from forty years ago was better able to grapple with these issues than modern day DC brass is.

Oh, and I forgot to add yesterday that not letting Kate marry Maggie further cements their reputation as a bunch of jaggoffs. But what can you expect? They think one woman is useless, so obviously two women are even more useless. Like a double negative or something.

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[snip]

Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
...But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.


Originally Posted by Blockade Boy


Well I deserve comics to read too!


It's too late, BB. We've already seen your photo and we know you're not really Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons.


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Join Terry for as he takes those new, first steps into adventure, humour, friendship and love...

...Only to be run over by a horde of emotionally stunted 45 year olds chasing after Big, Buxom, Ballistic Babes from Baaldur! Yes! straight from your pathetic fantasy life and into a short lived, desperate monthly!

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Originally Posted by cleome47
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Originally Posted by Cobalt Kid
...But hey, DC is dumbing things down and think their readers are immature, emotionally stunted guys that don't know squat about relationships.


Originally Posted by Blockade Boy


Well I deserve comics to read too!


It's too late, BB. We've already seen your photo and we know you're not really Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons.


That was just someone I hired to make a good visual impression.

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Sorry, I know that this is an old thread, but I've only just now come across it, and I've gotta say: Dan Dido, you ain't publishing any comics that this 45-year old wants to read!


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