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The End of the Legion?
#31181 05/10/04 06:53 AM
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Just read this article from a post on the DC board. Some spoiler artwork is included:


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Ya beat me to it, Jim... lol


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Interesting. That's all I can say about the last few paragraphs.

As for the spoiler artwork and Gail's comments...good stuff!

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Oy! Must they start with a new #1 every time a new creative team takes over?

Feh!

P.S. The Greg Land cover is super-keen, jelly bean!!!!

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Am I supposed to be shocked and angered or shocked and excited about what might come next?!? I'm confused, someone please do the thinking for me frown

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I suspect this is just so they can have a new Legion of Super-Heroes #1 for Waid.

I *hope* anyway - if the Legion is ever cancelled for real, they're screwed more than any other comic series. Given the at-most-tangential links to the DCU, anyone reviving the series after any sort of hiatus could do *anything* to it, from rebooting again to the 5YG-on-crack.

At least it looks like the final issue has an absolutely beautiful cover .


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#31187 05/10/04 07:22 AM
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Ya beat me to it, Jim... lol
Yeah, but you actually gave a link to the story itself.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=002208


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Jen's been guilty of sensationalist reporting before. She hyped the Darkseid "appearance" during Dream Crime as "the real thing", which I felt ended up cheapening his actual use in Foundations. I don't have any worries about Legion continuing, "Chicken Little" reporting aside.

And my beautiful clown! I agree. Yet another #1. I hope having yet another relaunch is worth it.


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At least it looks like the final issue has an absolutely beautiful cover .
Isn't Nowlan's the last issue, #38?

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[b]Ya beat me to it, Jim... lol
Yeah, but you actually gave a link to the story itself.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=002208 [/b]
Yeah, THAT'S what slowed me down and gave 'im the edge! wink I had to copy and paste the story URL! lol


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[b]At least it looks like the final issue has an absolutely beautiful cover .
Isn't Nowlan's the last issue, #38?[/b]
Maybe I got mixed up. I was under the impression that Nowlan's was 37, Land's was 38. Perhaps it was just that I saw the KN one first.

And don't you think it's getting odd that the first cover (the AH! one) is the only one we haven't seen yet? Is he stretching his deadlines or something?


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#31192 05/10/04 07:36 AM
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I have already murdered Steve Wacker and Dan Didio in cold blood and have come here to hide. mad

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If I may be a "chicken little" voice...,

I think the series is done. We're assuming Waid/Kitson are relaunching LSH. Why? Because of a Simone "slip-up" in a previous interview? I keep asking, why hasn't DC announced their long-term plans for The Legion? Waid/Kitson taking over The Legion (or relaunching LSH, choose whatever phrasing you wish) is either the WORST kept secret in comicdom....

or we can take Wacker at his word, "this book is cancelled." None of Wacker's comments suggest a re-launch. You want to tell me that he's being a tease? The re-launch will be announced in San Diego or a bit later? Sure. Maybe. That a pretty $#!&*@ way to treat readers, in my opinion.

Simone's comments also don't directly suggest a re-launch: "I know DC has some huge Legion plans, and what I know about them is amazing. Ours ties in a bit with that, in ways that won't be completely obvious right away, but it's also just big crashing fun on its own." Well, if Waid/Kitson were re-launching LSH where Simone left off, that would be "tieing in" a little more than "a bit", don't you think?

I starting to think Waid/Kitson are re-launching L.E.G.I.O.N.


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beautiful clown!
You say this because it is true!

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Doing some timings...

The August solicits are due tomorrow if it follows the usual pattern, and 37 & 38'll be in there. That means there's a full month, near enough exactly, before they'd have to announce anything relating to a September LSH #1. If there's any sort of hiatus, and it's common (though not universal) for there to be a skip month in relaunches, obviously you add a month for every month they wait.

If there's nothing in or before the October solicits though (i.e. mid-July), then we can panic.


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Yeah, THAT'S what slowed me down and gave 'im the edge! wink I had to copy and paste the story URL! lol
No whining now. I won fair and square.


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I swear to god if this is all some dumb ass set up for a deboot back to the Levitz era that some big name writers want to write about then I am done with the book. Period. If these cry baby writers were as good as they think they are they could use the current setting instead of whinning about not wanting to write the reboot.
I am out with another reboot or deboot.

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I swear to god if this is all some dumb ass set up for a deboot back to the Levitz era that some big name writers want to write about then I am done with the book. Period. If these cry baby writers were as good as they think they are they could use the current setting instead of whinning about not wanting to write the reboot.
I am out with another reboot or deboot.
Ditto.

And add a post-boot "multi-year gap" to the list of "I'm out"s too.


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I can't understand why the bozos at DC can't figure out that we're all sick of reboots and relaunches. How many relaunches can the Legion take? Hell, they just had one 3 years ago.


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I swear to god if this is all some dumb ass set up for a deboot back to the Levitz era that some big name writers want to write about then I am done with the book. Period. If these cry baby writers were as good as they think they are they could use the current setting instead of whinning about not wanting to write the reboot.
I am out with another reboot or deboot.
If this is what they are doing, I'll be first in line wiping the drool off my chin.

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I can't understand why the bozos at DC can't figure out that we're all sick of reboots and relaunches. How many relaunches can the Legion take? Hell, they just had one 3 years ago.
They're already at or past breaking point - I know people who refuse to try the book because "it'll get rebooted again." Crisis, the 5YG, v4 #4, the reboot. Hell, one guy insisted point blank to me that it was rebooted again at Legion Lost. Not the numbering, the story.

If there is another series coming, and there are any significant off-panel changes between Legion 38 and LSH v5 #1, be it gaps, reboots, deboots, a new HQ, ANY hugely significant changes in the comic that we don't see or make big changes to the characters, I think that the Legion, as a concept, won't see it's 50th birthday in print.


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I really don't want them to "deboot" the book, but if they wanted to move them forward a bit to the point where the team is about the age that they were when Levitz was writing them, I'd be ok with that (sorry, SoM).

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[b] I swear to god if this is all some dumb ass set up for a deboot back to the Levitz era that some big name writers want to write about then I am done with the book. Period. If these cry baby writers were as good as they think they are they could use the current setting instead of whinning about not wanting to write the reboot.
I am out with another reboot or deboot.
If this is what they are doing, I'll be first in line wiping the drool off my chin. [/b]
The problem is that it will never live up to your expectaions. It never does. Plus look at all that would be gone; XS, Gates, Kid Quantum, Invisable Kid, Karate Kid, Ferro, M'Onel (since he was dead at the end of the Levitz run), Kinetix, Shikari, and all the other good things since the reboot. All for nostalga that wouldn't live up to anyones expectations for the most part, and would probaly drive away alot of the current fans. Sure they might get some big name hot team on the book and the numbers could go way up, but for alot of us Legion fans it would just be the last straw, and when the hot team leaves the books is screwed.

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The problem is that it will never live up to your expectaions. It never does. Plus look at all that would be gone; XS, Gates, Kid Quantum, Invisable Kid, Karate Kid, Ferro, M'Onel (since he was dead at the end of the Levitz run), Kinetix, Shikari, and all the other good things since the reboot. All for nostalga that wouldn't live up to anyones expectations for the most part, and would probaly drive away alot of the current fans. Sure they might get some big name hot team on the book and the numbers could go way up, but for alot of us Legion fans it would just be the last straw, and when the hot team leaves the books is screwed.
I agree with you here Zero. And add Triad to the list of "good characters that would be lost," given that Duo Damsel was pretty different from her post-boot self.


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