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I hope that they make Ultra Boy a member of the core six in season 3. nI also hope that we get to see Tyroc in action. Finally lets hope that they add Wild Fire to the roster.
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Am I being pessimistic by seriously doubting that there's even going to be a season 3? Curious, Saturn Girl's chest symbol is missing in the group shot, which is very nice btw.
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Hmm... No Timber Wolf, Karate Kid, or Nemesis Kid...
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Maybe they're there, and we see them before we slowly zoom in on the founders at the back...or something.
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The new image looks great and gave me a "geekout" moment. I don't know ovely much about Ultra Boy other then his powers and classic comics relatiosnhip with Tinya but i'm also hoping to see more of him on the show later on. I was glad to see Matter Eater Lad up and about and not Emerald Eye 'tripping' anymore.
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I missed the episode because it's been so long since the last new episode that I'd forgotten they changed the timeslot. GRRRRR!
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WHY oh WHY did they have to show Tyroc in the flashback swearing in ceramony with the clenched "Black power" fist??? bad enough he had the huge afro but personally i think it was slight overkill,..i know it might've been an inside Joke since most folks know of Tyroc's origin. but c'mon! sorry just my little rant. love the episode,..never figured R.J. to be a southern gentleman type with the voice of Fog horn leghorn.
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Yeah, I always imagined RJ to have an Irish brogue in the comics, but I figured, if he's really a Durlan, he can be anything he wants, right?
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Oh, and wasn't it cool to see the founders do some real detective work to track down Doyle?
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I loved RJ more than I ever thought I would!
I wonder if they're going to follow up on his relationship to Cham? If I was a kid, I'd be wondering how he could be Cham's father. Is he really Durlan, as in the comics? Or is he an adoptive father?
And I thought it was cool just seeing Tyroc as one of the early members.
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This episode had just about everything that has been good about the LSH cartoon series. Multi-layered relationships that can be explored or used for plot points later on, glimpses of lots of characters, a quick and action-filled adventure, fun writing....
(Though, personally, I regret anyone ever came up with the Brande assasination attempt origin.)
I wish they had done more episodes like this instead of the less enjoyable timberwolf or chameleon boy-centric episodes. Maybe we would be talking about season three plans if they had.
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After such a long break, I was very excited to see a new episode, and it was great. I'm a big fan of the founders, so featuring them and telling the origin story was terrific.
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I really enjoyed this episode, but it seemed that Saturn Girl had more cheesy lines than usual. I think I counted three separate lines that made me groan. Did anyone else think this?
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Originally posted by Awkward Pause Boy:
(Though, personally, I regret anyone ever came up with the Brande assasination attempt origin.). While I'm generally not a fan of it, myself, this was actually the best version of it I've seen. I liked the fact that the founders formed the Legion on their own (rather than it being Brande's idea), and that they still had to prove themselves to Brande even after they'd formed the team.
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The Legion's back, and it's better than ever! It's really great to see Saturn Girl(and Matter-Eater Lad)again, though I kind of agree with Teronna on her lines(even in the future they make Scooby-Doo references!). I liked the dynamic among the original three, especially when they were little kids. I absolutely squealed when I saw the original Legion in their Silver Age outfits, they were so cute! Oh, and it's about time someone called Cosmic Boy out on being a douche, I was hoping for that in this episode.
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I only saw bit and pieces of it, but loved what I saw, especially the Cosmic Boy / Lightning Lad exchanges.
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I liked seeing the Silver Age costumes. Glad to see Saturn Girl up and about. Saturn Girl's detective skill in the flashback.
OK now to what I didn't like about the episode. TAKING AWAY THE LEADERSHIP FROM BOUNCING BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cosmic Boy still acting all arrogant. The fact that when the Legion comes across Grimbor and the Resource Raiders, they do the same thing they did the first time, but now beat them. Also when Cosmic Boy says "Let's use their power against them" and then all they do is blast the starmaker things. Surely the writers could have come up with something that showed them using their powers together, thus showing why they are the Legion of superheroes and noy just a bunch of powerful kids. And wouldn't Brainy have been better used against the star maker things than against the Resource Raiders (against whom Saturn Girl would have made sense) I know I know, the three founders had to work together. So, come up with something that would require the three founders.
I think having Chameleon Boy refer to RJ as his Dad is going to be confusing to most viewers and I didn't get all excited about them using that bit.
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Am I the only one that found this ep incredibly dull? I've lost count on how many Legion origin stories I've had to sit through. Uggh! I would rather they had done this in the first year of the series... I'm expecting new stimulus by now. Doyle was BORING as a villain. And when did Saturn Girl develop telekinesis? Tellus, you might want to try the Subs.
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Have we really seen the Legion origin that much? I mean as a Legion fan I'm familiar with it. But, I've never felt overexposed to it.
I thought this episode was a long time coming and they did a better job with it than I expected. Well done.
It's great to see Saturn Girl and Matter-Eater Lad back to health and active duty. Their fates were helping ruin this season for me (along with Imperiex and Superman X, of course).
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Yeah, I bet a lot of kids were befuddled that Cham has a human daddy. I was cheering for R.J. to shape-shift and help save the day but he was pretty useless except as a plot device. Ditto Doyle -- even a 4-year old could plainly see from the start he was the bad guy. And I thought Grimbor was blown to pieces in the Karate Kid episode but I guess he got, uh, better.
In spite of the predictable plot and Brainy's clunky exposition, the episode did a fabulous job portraying the "family" relationship of the Legionnaires 3. For once, Cos didn't come off as a complete a$$ -- only a partial a$$. He's still humorless, self-righteous, lacking in people skills and has his eyes set squarely on the prize, but he's no dummy and no slouch in the action department. Garth gets back some of the cocky and abrasive attitude he had in Season One, but is also shown as a kind and compassionate friend who values people over trophies (loved Tenzil being spoon-fed like a baby). Imra (in her first speaking role since I don't remember when!) is the "middleman" between the two opposite boys, her usual competent self. Her unique personality didn't shine through as strongly as CB's and LL's but at least she got to be as physically powerful as they are. Okay, so effortlessly blasting satellites with her mind was kind of silly but I liked seeing the three founders cut loose and have such a great time working together again.
I agree the highlight of the episode was the kids in their Silver Age era costumes reciting the Legion oath. Yeah, they looked cheesy, goofy and hopelessly old fashioned but I don't mind saying I choked up a little seeing The Spirit of Adventure flicker alive again this morning. Anyone else want a "Little Legion" show or book?
Next week looks like the return of Zyx (boo!) and Mordru (yay!)
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Well you never actually see Grimbor blown to pieces in the KK episode. And Grimbor setting the traps was great too bad he didn't have Charma with him.
CB being in charge of the Legion anyways seems fine to me while he tends to follow the rules too much, he is much more a big picture guy than Garth. Whereas Garth is much more fly off the handle type of guy. Watching CB and LL argue like that remind me of Spock (CB) and McCoy's (LL) bickering from the Classic Star Trek series. It fit in very well with their personalities.
As far as BB not being the leader anymore, he just is not a wartime leader. You can clearly see that in previous episodes where he defers to others despite being the leader. In a time of war like the Legion is in currently you need a big picture leader like a Cosmic Boy or Brainy to be leading the troops because they will do what needs to be done.
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I think it was just a matter of the writer(s) of this episode and the previous episode either not knowing or not caring about BB being elected leader last season.
And in the episode in which he was elected leader, it was because he was seeing the big picture and Cos and LL (and even Brainy) weren't. Plus Bouncy did handle the Sun-Eater very well.
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I don't think it's so much a matter of ignoring that BB was elected leader, but just a matter of the fact that a couple of years passed between seasons. So Cos being leader again isn't inconsistent with that. This episode was playing with the leadership rivalry between Cos and LL that was set up in that episode. It would've been nice (and perhaps less confusing) if they referenced BB's term as leader, but I'm not upset that they didn't.
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Saturn Gilrs to Doyle in the classic Scooby line "If it wasn't for this meddling kids" made me laugh out loud.
Also, seeing the Adventure era costumes is great.
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