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Indeed. I've been compaining about the toothpick arms on the female figures for quite some time. Yet, they are still in use. That and the fact that I never liked the Giffen outfit -- makes Saturn Girl the weakest link of the entire set.

Yea this set was basically the equivalent of two DCUC waves. It really bottlenecked things from the Four Horsemen all the way through production. I think it almost a year and half after the set was announced that it finally went on sale.

The nice thing about another 12 pack set is that it would come very close to completing the pre-Crisis Legion. Hopefully a 5 or 6 pack set is still a possibility. Otherwise we're looking 1 or 2 new Legion figures a year, meaning it would be several years before we get close to a full team.

Also I just saw this on EBay and can't believe someone put this up. Hopefully it is just a prank :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-Universe..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbde7b8ab

It does say "Figure not included."

Kinda funny though.

Hope that clown gets the biggest negative rating if one is sold. That jerk has FOUR of them? That must mean he's hoarded at least four sets. Way to be a greedy criminal.

whooo hoooo!!!! perfect day before Xmas !!! Just got the clubhouse!!!!

Mine arrived a few hours ago! Quite a long journey it took to get here, too. California to Nevada to Indiana to Atlanta to Tennessee, back to Georgia and then to Knoxville...

I'm surprised how much I like Colossal Boy. He looks like a Steve Lightle drawing come to 'life'. I knew I'd love Tenzil and Val (who really should've had articulated hands). Though the Ultra Boy is nothing like he's ever been in a comic, he somehow embodies that brief state of teen-ness when height, musculature, etc. has developed, but a gangly quality still exists. Jo as a sort of space surfer dude.

Superboy's grin is weird. Cosmic Boy doesn't look like I've ever pictured him, but I find the facial sculpt captivating enough that he's like a new version of him.

I am disappointed in the extreme twigginess of Saturn Girl's arms. I was scared I'd break them taking her out of her shell! I guess now I'm glad Mattel *didn't* make more Legion girls, it they'd all have to have this weirdly elongated body with super-skinny arms.

I'd have to say I prefer DC Direct's Imra, as immobile as she is. I really love that Cosmic Boy, too- with his magnetic hands.

Anyway- Proty's fun... Wildfire and T-Wolf look great. Brainy's a good bit brawnier than he should be, but he looks great.

My favorite thing is the clubhouse, though. With those 'ready for transport' messages, it's made me imagine a story around it. It's a neat addition to think that the old clubhouse actually *was* a rocket ship-- one equipped with some sort of state of suspended life support tech. What kind of mission would the LSH have to undertake to use this tech?

Invisible Kid's chamber is both fun and aggravating. I want a figure of him! I guess I could stick the DC Direct one in there... but I don't think it'd 'fit'. Personally, I'd like that uniform Lyle wore in the most recent SECRET ORIGINS, but I don't imagine that's what I'd get. Going by the timing of all the other costumes, I'm surprised they didn't make it Jacques.

Maybe an Espionage Squad set? Lyle and/or Jacques, Phantom Girl, Shrinking Violet and maybe Tellus? That is, if Mattel somehow comes up with a female body that works better.

Whoo, finally got mine today, too ... all the way from southern California to southeastern Connecticut!

First of all: BRILLIANT packaging, though I can see where it may have caused a headache in terms of its size...not quite sure where to put mine myself.

Second point (a question): On the sides of the packages, they state each character's symbol. I believe they have made some up? For Tenzil, they have an "M" with a bite chomped out...NOT what I remember seeing previously. Likewise, Colossal
boy has concentric, rising squares (getting bigger), which also does not look familiar.

Third: to answer Chemical King's question earlier, I did get the new version, and it
does have what I would call "off-white" whites, but not quite what I would call gray... they look more like they are just in need of a run through the laundry.

fourth: Agree that superboy's grin looks weird.

fifth: Saturn Girl's hips are just a bit too wide for the rest of her, I think...probably related to others' perceptions that her arms are too small.

overall, though, I'm thrilled to have this!!!!

As for who I'd like to see next: first, I'd like to FINALLY have, (please!!), an ELEMENT LAD figure!

After that, I agree they should catch up on the girls...I'd think Phantom Girl should be first, then Triplicate Girl, Ayla, Vi, Jeckie, and Shady.

Hee hee! I put Brainy and Jo on my Christmas tree, like ornaments! They're the only ones with holiday appropriate color schemes. Jo looks like he's riding his branch (does that sound dirty?) like the end of Dr. Strangelove.

Did anyone see the Dr. Who Christmas special? I sort of want to read a story where some weird cosmic entity traps legionnaires to put on his Christmas space tree! In giant see-through glass/plastic/technoinvention spheres, of course.

Sounds like a Dr. Mayavale kind of story to me - let's see some pictures (this coming from someone who has had action figures in his Christmas trees for over a decade and whose parents actually found some REAL Star Wars tree ornaments on their housefloor last year...)

By the way I totally second your feeling about Colossal Boy, Saturn Girl and all the others. And I'm a little surprised that they did not manage to improve the greyish white on their second run - has nobody told them???

It could be with the symbols a similar situation to awhile back when Mattel put out Metamorpho and Obsdian figures but could use not those names on the products because of rights issues.

For example on the traditional tooth symbol for Tenzil, it could be that somebody in the dental industry has the rights to that imagery.

Sadly, I wasn't able to order one and I missed out twice on this now. As I refuse to pay double the price on ebay, I guess I won't get this.
Shame.

Is there any word on a possible third run? If these sets are selling out within hours, I would think there would be serious consideration to keep making them while the demand is high.

Mattel has some incentive to keep producing them, but as it is, they've sold all their inventory to make maximum expected profit off the two runs. A third run will have two risks: that greater availability will make the set less desirable to collectors thus driving down sales and that they might not sell out a third set, leaving them with stock on hand. When it comes to a big set like this, I'd be surprised if they wanted to risk not selling out. That's some very expensive inventory.

Part of the problem, as I see it, is that this set is marketed to the collectors, rather than the fans. While there's certainly crossover between those communities, it's the collectors (and secondary merchants who sell to collectors) who are the target for these items. If it was being made for the fans, they would have taken pre-orders and made exactly as many as they needed to meet fan demand. Their interest is in creating a secondary market to drive up demand for their products at their point of sale. Selling out of their inventory is their goal; any product that doesn't sell out is probably considered a failure.

Very good, Director Lad - your points are all well taken. Me, not knowing much about this business, would assume that since the molds are already made and the paint process and packaging has already been established, that it would be easier and cheaper and more profitable to produce more, even at the risk of having a few left over, given the perceived market demand.

I am interested in getting a set, but won't do it at 300%+ markup from a store or eBay reseller.

Actually, that's the case. Once the toy's been sculpted, developed and tooled, it's a lot cheaper to do a new production run because the major expenses have already been absorbed by the first run and the only new cost is the actual prod.

What irritates me the most in this being sold out for the second time within hours is that you have some ebay sellers announcing that they're selling some 30 of them at double the price

Good news (possibly) for those of you who didn't get one...

the 2nd run has indeed come close to saturating the market on the hoarders/speculators, and there are now people on eBay selling it ("Buy it now") for just under $250, one even with *free shipping*. Considering that the $180 set from Matty still cost me $205 or so with shipping and everything else, this is only just over 20% mark up, far lower now than double the price.

Sadly, none of them offer free shipping to the UK. With shipping, most of those will cost me around $300, not counting possible customs

But i'm still looking

On principle alone I won't purchase a set from a re-reseller at even as 'low' as a 20% markup.

If Matty Collector was interested in serving their general customers, and not just their special store customers, they would provide a third run limited to a single purchase per customer and then open up the sales to more later if they have leftovers. If they are selling this set out within hours, it suggests to me they they have drastically underestimated the market demand, and if they produce more, everyone would be satisfied.

If Matty Collector doesn't produce a third run of this set where it is actually possible for some of us to purchase it, I won't even bother with any additional sets, Legion or not, that they may sell in the future.

I paid through the nose on EBay. But now I have a Wildfire, a Colossal Boy, a Matter Eater Lad, a Cockrum Timber Wolf... it's fun. My 9 year old is furious about the Invisible Kid fake out, though.

did anyone attend the ToyFair to find out if we will get more Legionnaires, more specifically, females and aliens?

There were no Legion announcements, though we did see the upcoming Starman figure with his 'Thom Kallor' swappable head.

Honestly, I imagine Thom covers any 'Legion slot' for the first year of the DCUC subscription that may exist. I wouldn't expect to see another Legionnaire before 2013, but I'd love to be wrong.

Many collectors feel that the 2012 sub is half full of figures that would have been in the next CnC wave. So the early announcements were all less than exciting, IMHO. Heck, it took some pressure from collectors to get a Star Boy head variant to the masked Starman figure.

We probably won't see another Legion-oriented figure in 2012 -- even though Starman was really filling the MA JSA slot initially.

But there's seems to be a good bit of demand for Dawnstar, and I would hope the next Legion figurre we get is of a female character. I'd say she has a good shot for the 2013 wave.

They won't even consider more boxed sets until they see how sales are for the 2013 wave. And even then -- nothing as mammoth as the 12-pack.

Did anyone catch the fist episode of the second season of the AMC series Comic Book Men? It featured a Legion fan buying the 12-pack (for $275) and afterwards she and the guys actually discussed the Legion for a few minutes--decrying the lack of female figures, lamenting of how Gim and Vi never became a couple, their favorite artists, and other topics. The one bummer of the segment was noted director Kevin Smith blaming Bouncing Boy for his not becoming a Legion fan...

The 12pack was to be seen in the comic book store of "Big Bang Theory" in season 5 (ep. 5 or 6 I guess). Really made me a little happy to see them in such a high profile show

If they should produce a Dawnstar I really hope they make her less anorectic looking than Imra. The more I see Saturn Girl, the less I like her...

I don't know how I missed that discussion on Legion Book men, but nice to see them mentioning that the 12-pack should have feature more female members. Being that it appears that Mattel won't do any more multi-packs (and certainly not another 12 pack), not including more females the first time -- really cheese my ass.

Still holding out hope for Dawnstar this year in the sub, but the most likely females to be announced are Phantom Lady, Vixen and either Fire or Ice. Most of the 2013 sub is rehashes of what DC Direct already produced -- and the above certainly fit into that criteria.

It's a shame that Mattel had such a huge success with the Legion, yet seems to have completely abandoned it -- again.