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After reading this new origin of Timber Wolf, I see that DC is cheating the fans. And we are before another concealed reboot. From Secret origins up to these zero spotlights, everything indicates that many things have changed and other more were changing... For that they were not be honest and began of zero as the Teen Titans or Justice League? The next.....Brainiac 5 origins....
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I don't mind minor changes BUT...this wasn't minor. At first I thought it was explaining how the mother died...but then I realized it was a brand new origin. Don't love it but don't mind it either. I recently read his original origin and I think it could've been updated. I would've like to see Legion involvement though. But that may be the follow up Blade Runner type android story where the Legion gets involved.
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Honestly, having seen this story almost in its entirely now, I'm not regretting choosing to blow my handful of extra cash on remaindered music instead. The art looked pretty, yes. But the story was padded, contrived even for "just a superhero story" and so by-the-numbers that I wanted to scream. And next we're getting a story about Brainiac 5. :rolleyes: Yeah, I think I'll just go paw through the CD remainder bins on Half dot com some more. Sorry, Legion. <span style="font-size: 11px;">(Honestly, cartoon villain Mar Londo was more subtle, nuanced and interesting than anyone in this weak-tea origin story.)</span>
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It was pretty padded, though not half-bad for an origin... of a new character.
Agree that it failing to fill in the gaps of how Brin encountered the Legion was probably the most annoying part of it.
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Had hoped to bear this out until it (soon) cancels but #12 and this thread.... Can't do it. Based on his L Lost effort, I don't think I'd ever buy a title from this writer. Just not to my tastes I guess.
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Average story, screws with his origin but that's nothing new now. Good art.
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I've had reservations about DeFalco writing DC characters before, but this has really been very bad. They could have done the same origin, merge in parts of brin's old origin, and everyone would have been happy (and it would have made a better origin than BatWerine. Is it wrong of me to say that I'm waiting impatiently for this series to be cancelled and the characters to be reabsorbed in LSH?
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I'll join in with the dislike. Full disclosure: I was never much a Timber Wolf fan to begin with. But making him into such a generic feral/angry/revenge character strips what little there was of interest in the character that I did have. I just didn't see the point of this update when the original had more going for it (or even the animated origin, which struck a better balance).
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I find myself loving both the animated and 'classic' and Threeboot Timber Wolves, but not caring at all for 'Furball' or this new Wolverine-clone that Levitz has been using.
It's kind of head-spinny that there were already four different versions of this character running around, and Paul has felt the need to re-invent this particular wheel a fifth sprocking time.
And since this latest re-invention, IMO, isn't as good as at least three of the four previous incarnations, I'm left wondering what the heck the writers / editorial / whomever were smoking in the first place.
Change to make things *better,* is cool. Changing up his origin to bring in the Animated concept that Papa Londo was a 'let's turn people into bioweapons and sell them to terrorists!' sort of dude, could be funky. Changing it to focus on the nature of androids in the 31st century, as foreshadowing for a new android member of the LSV who has a grudge against Timber Wolf (a sort of arch-nemesis, as coldly mechanical as Brin is passionate and sometimes atavistic).
I'm not feeling that sort of thing here.
Character retooling should, IMO, *add* opportunities and expand options. A lot of this new DC stuff feels like it is making everyone smaller and less than they were before, taking stuff away, and not presenting anything even equal to what existed before, let alone *better* than what it's replacing.
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Originally posted by Pariscub: I've had reservations about DeFalco writing DC characters before, but this has really been very bad.
They could have done the same origin, merge in parts of brin's old origin, and everyone would have been happy (and it would have made a better origin than BatWerine.
Is it wrong of me to say that I'm waiting impatiently for this series to be cancelled and the characters to be reabsorbed in LSH? If you are wrong, than I'm wrong along with you, Pariscub. I pretty much gave up in disgust when they retroactively trashed Gim and Yera's marriage. The idea that contrived, unexplained angst is somehow more interesting than just letting the characters stay together... [throws up hands] May it do their sales good, but I'm not bloody interested.
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Story was subpar, and only seemed to be an excuse to retroactively introduce SP Nate Adym as the head of Echo (and possibly the identity of Harvest?) . Kinda wonder if Tor will become Black Mace though...
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I thought the story was not all that bad. But would if had hurt so much to somewhere include Ayla in it instead of some no name SPs? That would have given us some sense of (no, not continuity) reverence to the old stories... picked up my Legion archive and read the original Lone Wolf story which, by todays standards, is very hard to read at all in my eyes, but well, some kind of nod to the old stories still woul have felt well.
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I enjoyed it more than LSH # 0.
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