Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes For real real... do I need to start buying the SUPERMAN books?

ACTION, and all the rest and whatnot? I haven't been but am I missing out? Please advise!

yes...and also Justice League of America where Mon-El will join soon.

I started buying Superman and Action comics when Mon-El guest-starred (alongside Tellus, and Sensor Girl, to no lesser extent)

If you want my opinion, I'd say "pass", Lash. I discontinued Action after 3 or 4 issues of this direction and am seriously considering dropping Superman now. James Robinson's return to DC is laying an egg everywhere he goes, and even the presence of Mon-El and Tellus isn't saving it for me. I was high on the World of New Krypton series for a while, but it's really sinking since it starting crossing over with the other titles.

Supergirl is probably gonna end up being the only one I keep buying. It's been consistently good under Gates and Igle, though it's weaker with the recent crossovers. Very good recent Superwoman arc and the January solicitation looks to be an issue no Superman or LSH fan should miss. I hope it's a mislead, but the development has been foreshadowed in Supergirl for a good while now.

So...Lardy says skip the Super-titles but give Supergirl a chance if you want to sample just one.

JLA is a regular buy for me, so no probs there.

It was Mon-El's presence and the feeling I'm missing out on LSH stuff that was making me wonder what I should do re: the SUPES titles.

Supergirl? I dropped the latest series when it became total garbage... it's good again? I know of Igle, but I don't know Gates (though he has a nice last name for this LSH fan!)

Supergirl is the best one, I totally reccommend it! Its about as fun as you can imagine and its so different from the awful beginning to the series that you'll be shocked.

Superman (with Mon-El) is hit or miss each month. Sometimes its really great, sometimes its only okay. Robinson is writing some real crap elsewhere in the DCU but this is probably the best stuff he's doing...but its not a title I can reccomend wholeheartedly.

Action Comics is getting better but its not exactly anything spectacular. Ditto for the Captain Atom back-up.

"World of New Krytpon" has been excellent but its almost over...

Yet, the Super-titles are far better than the Bat-titles these days.

I like the Mon-el issues of Superman, but have not liked the last couple of two where Mon-el is not there <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">presumed dead, but really a captive of Gen. Lane</span></span> I'll be happy next issue when it looks like he is back.

Oh, I totally forgot something! Lash, are you aware that one of your more FAVORITE Legionnaires is currently in Superman? No, not Mon-El. No, not Tellus (he's pretty much in Adventure Comics now). This is actually one of the Legionnaires you like more than them whose currently not in the 31st Century. It was revealed elsewhere but I wasn't sure if you knew. I'll put it in the spoiler below, check if you'd like...

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Sensor Girl / Princess Projectra! And her recent revelatory appearance was pretty awesome and emotional.</span></span>

Hmmm...that must have been in the last issue, which I haven't read yet. Might save Robinson's ass from losing my 3 bucks/month if it's as good as you say....

Well, that three page sequence is as good as I say. The rest of the book you'll have to judge for yourself.

Some of it is needlessly confusing (honestly, I happen to have some extensive knowledge of Mark Merlin and Prince Ra Man, but why make it so confusing with readers who won't get it *or* care). And the Morgan Edge stuff is so cliche its boring, but thats in all the Super-books these days.

But yeah, I thought that sequence I mentioned was good.

I'd pick up Superman. I like what Robinson is doing in it. It's not groundbreaking, but it's solid. And now with Sensor Girl/Projectra being revealedd -- maybe more revelations are on the way?

Action Comics -- pass. I've yet to read anything by Rucka that I like. His Batwoman stories are pretty to look at -- but the writing is so so.

If you're counting $ I'd skip them - you can get the essential plot details here. I'm buying Superman for the Mon-el story, which I've mostly enjoyed but doubt I'll add JLA just for his appearances.

I'm also passing on Action Comics (story doesn't sound that interesting) and skipping World of New Krypton as non-essential.

For anyone who is considering buying the Mon-El/Tellus books, here's the list of published to date issues (including the pre-Robinson appearances of Mon-El). Some are single panel cameos:
Action Comics Annual 10 Mon-El origin
Action Comics 846 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Action Comics 851 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Action Comics Annual 11 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Superman 674 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Superman 675 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Adventure Comics Special (Featuring The Guardian) 1 Tellus cameo
Superman 682 Mon-El cameo
Action Comics 872 Tellus cameo
Action Comics 873 Starman cameo and Mon-El in Phantom Zone cameo
Superman 684 Mon-El in Phantom Zone
Action Comics 874 Mon-El in Phantom Zone, Sensor Girl cameo
Superman 685 Mon-El major appearance Tellus cameo
Superman 686 Mon-El major appearance
Superman 687 Mon-El major appearance, Tellus/Sensor Girl cameos
Action Comics 877 Mon-El cameo on viewer
Superman 688 Mon-El major appearance, Tellus/Sensor Girl cameos
Superman 689 Mon-El major appearance, Tellus appearance
Action Comics 879 Mon-El appearance
Superman 690 Mon-El cameo, Tellus appearance, Sensor Girl cameo
Superman Annual 14 Mon-El major appearance, Tellus cameo
Superman Secret Files 2009 1 Mon-El major appearance, Sensor Girl cameo
Action Comics 880 Mon-El major appearance
Supergirl (V5) 44 Mon-El major appearance, Sensor Girl cameo
Superman 691 Mon-El major appearance
Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen Special 2 Mon-El appearance
Action Comics 881 Screens showing Mon-El during Superman 691
Supergirl (V5) 45 Mon-El photo on cover of Daily Planet
Superman 691 Mon-El appearance, Sensor Girl appearance

Get the Actions; skip the rest.

Action comics is the worst of this storyline. Superman is decent but could be better if they spent more pages on mon-el and the legionnaires rather than the guardian. Supergirl is excellent. Superman:WONK has its moments but has lots of meaningless violence

I dropped Action because at its heart, it is a love story, and I don't buy into it. But that's me. Never been into Captain Atom either.

Superman and Superman:WONK are strong but I tend to agree with Para-Dox on the former.

Superman:SO has been fantastic so far.

Supergirl is much improved these days but not enough to make my pull list. But I've never been a big fan of the character anyway.

ooops! I thought Action was the title Lar was starring in.
Get Superman, skip the rest.

I'm a big fan of Gates' structure on the title. He will have his 'trade' arc, his mandated crossover and the stuff DC demands but where he excels is the one shot character issues like 'Why the world doesn't need supergirl?', 'guilding day' and the lead story in the recent annual. Gates is touching on the 'real world' aspect of the storyline that no one else is doing. The only time we see what the random DCU population think is when Gates is writing. As for the character, I've loved her since I saw Helen Slater fly about so I'm a bit bias there. I want to learn more about how she views the world(s) where Gates writing of her she is very reactionary to the events around her rather than contemplative

The Feb solicitation for Superman 697 states

“Man of Valor” Part 4! With the Legion of Super-Hero members in the 21st century now revealed to Mon-El, the Man of Valor learns of a greater destiny he and Superboy share; one that ties directly in to the fate of New Krypton and Kal-El!

Part one kicks off in #694 this month, so that may be a good jumping on point.

Picked up Superman when Mon started being in it, but dropped it because Robinson was going nowhere. sounds like i should give it another shot.

I dunno guys, has it picked up the pace or are we just loving it because of more Legionnaire goodness (and the fact that it's Jeckie, awesome)? Last question, how would you rate Jeckie's characterization under Robinson?

The latter I'd say. It's bait, no fish.

Jeckie hasn't been characterized really.

I really find this hard to manage. I mean, just reading the Previews promo text, I often find it hard to see if this or that issue of Supes or Action or whatever is important to me as a Legion fan.

I started buying Superman with #685 and stopped again with #690, part because I thought it was just mediocre stuff, part because Mon-Els role seemed to be not that big at all - and part because he was no longer even mentioned in Previews!. Thus, I obviously missed Sensor Girls revelation in #691. Go figure!

But I just refused to buy the other titles of this recent "Codename Patriot" (come on,, how lame does that sound?) Supes crossover, so instead of buying more, I chose to buy less - did the same with the Titans when that promising-to-be-lame "Deathtrap" thing came up.

Now with the next storyline being called "Man of Valor" and focussing on Mon-El, I guess I'll have to return again. On the other hand, I skipped Secret Origins cause I had my Legion appearance there and all in all, this book feels so much like the Smallville TV show that I feel it's better to watch the original (fourth season right now, lots to catch up I know).

Justice League, yeah I'm gonna pick up that one again (skipped it with #26) - hey, there's not only Mon-El but STARFIRE coming to the team, and that is really on of my all-time favorites...

Action Comics I do not touch at all, even the tie-in into "Man of Valor". I always went by the rule "you can only buy so much", though in recent times, I rather have to change it into "you can only read so much" due to time issues (BUYING comics cheap on German Ebay is no problem at all )

I really appreciate you guys giving information which issues are essential to AR Legion collectors though - so let me finish this post to hunt down that sprocking #691 on Ebay...

There's a preview of Superman 694 on DC's the Source http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2009/11/19/mon-el-makes-his-metropolis-return-in-superman-694/

Superman 694:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">"LOOK-- --HE'S EATING THE CAR!"



There'll be no living with Lash, now. </span></span>

It was great

SUPERMAN: Officially added to my pull-list!