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So we know that the Legion will not be rebooted but that there will be "some" changes. Fabian N. of "Legion Lost" said the cast have only been super heroing for about 5 years. That seems to be the DC wide mandate. Superman has only had a 5 year old career. Other DC trends include making the heroes younger, getting rid of marriages (Flash, Supes), making heroines costumes less sexist. SO how will this effect the LSH?
- Are Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad still married? DO they have kids? If they do they must be still infants, as they started the Legion 5 years ago.
- Supergirl is new to Earth again, so Brainy/Kara romance is gone again. Supergirl was never a member. Was Superboy a member?
-Did "Lightning saga" happen? Did "Last battle for New Krypton" happen?
- Mon-El has a spiffy new Mon-El costume. Is he still a Green Lantern?
- Will the Fatal Five be all alive and together again?
- Will Shadow Lass get pants?
Any other speculations? Questions for Mr. Levitz?
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Much remains to be seen - or not seen. The introduction of the current version of the Legion generated tons of the same types of questions. Levitz decided not to address many of them, and I doubt that he will be any more anxious to do so after September.

It seems that Lightning Saga and Legion of 3 Worlds will not have happened - or will have have happened differently than originally printed. I say this because of the role that Wally West and Family played in Lightning Saga, and because of the significance of Conner's resurrection in L3W.

Isn't there supposed to be a 3rd Legion (mini-)series coming out in October that is an explination/account of the early years of this (yet again new) version of the Legion?

hmm now its becoming confusing...because Dragonwing, Chemical Kid, and others are now legionnaires...so I wonder how does that impact the "5-years" span? if the older Legionnaires tell them about their experience working with Superboy and Supergirl, then both of them has to be a member during that 5 years span...huh? see, this is going to be confusing...

Yes, it will be interesting to see how much detail the mini goes into. I'm hoping it provides some clarification.

If I were running the Legion books (which I'm not) I would (if allowed) simply ignore the clock-reset in the 21st century. After all, the Legion is set in the future: to them, the ten, fifteen, or twenty years that have been wiped out of Superman and Batman's history have still already happened.

Supergirl may not be a Legion member in her own book, may not even have met the Legion yet, but she will in the future. The Brainiac 5 as we see him now remembers their cross-time relationship: for him it is history.

(A decade after you and your ex-girlfriend broke up, would you- if you could- go back in time and try to date your ex-girlfriend... while she was still your younger self's girlfriend?)

I say ignore all the time-paradoxes and historical revisions, don't explain anything, and just get on with the story. I have complete confidence that the history of the DC Universe will change again.

I mean, nobody ever tried to re-write the Brain-Globes of Rambat story, which is hard enough to fit into even the 1962 continuity.

And how does Gates fit into that 5 years span? He's one of the lost Legionnaires stranded in the 21st Century.

Maybe THIS is the reason behind his rummored death in that same series. Maybe he is going to suffer the same fate as Laurel Kent .... killed off so questions of his continuity are largely Moot.

Not just Gates as apart from Brin and, maybe, Drake it is doubtful that any of the new lost team joined within the first five years of the Legion forming if they still joined in the order they did originally.

Perhaps this is why these largely unconnected members were selected for the new book as they had no place in the 31stC in the new continutity and why they cannot go back.

As far as the time span, you could still have the Legion having been around about ten years, with the Adventure Era taking up about five years, and then everything after condensed into five years, which would still give the Lost cast roughly five years of experience (since they are late Adventure/post-Adventure characters). This would also make sense since it would put the early Legionnaires at roughly the same age as Superman, most likely.

Remember that story in S/LSH #235 that Paul wishes he hadn't written that establishes that the legionnaires age far more slowly than 20th (now 21st) century humans?

Maybe it's time to stop ignoring that story. It would allow the legion to be young enough to be mistaken for teens while preserving its history.

Hey, it's science fiction, after all.

Given how lifespans have increased over the last 1000 years, and how medical technology increases at an ever steeper curve, I'd expect the human lifespan to be effectively forever by the 30th century.

We've pretty much figured out how telomere shortening happens (and can be avoided) and how trash can be cleaned from cells, it's just not something we can readily do, yet. In a hundred years, we'll probably have average lifespans around a century and a half...

Have lifespans increased in the last 1000 years?
IIRC, it's more like the last 100 to 150 years.
And mostly based on nutrition and medical intervention.
And in only a small proportion of the world.

I DO think that we might get to 150 by the Legion era, though.
And maybe the elongated era will be the 20's to 50's.

I don't really see us not having new and harder diseases forming and death being harder to keep at bay.
Tech from other worlds might help, but on the other hand, many new pathogens would be introduced, perhaps similar to the European introduction of disease to the American Indians.

Anyway, I agree with Levitz, ignore that story.
I agree with Tanner, except that DC wants to make the whole DCU younger, for younger audience inclusion.

I personally prefer reading young adult books, so I'm happy enough with the decision.
Except for the general silliness of all of the erased relationships and accomplishments and adventures and earned wisdom.
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Well, average lifespans have increased dramatically over the past several hundred years, but a significant part of that is because of reduction in mortality in the very young.

We've generally been pretty good at stopping things that kill us prematurely, but we haven't really had much success yet in extending lifespans per se. There have always been people who lived to be octogenarians, nonagenarians, centurians, etc., but we just have more people living to those ages now.

As Set notes, however, the real advance will come when we can figure out how to start fixing people at a cellular level, which sets the stage to extending lifespans practically indefinitely.

If we count years by Legion Leaders, I believe Year Five for the Legion saw the first meetings with Dr. Regulus, Mantis Morlo, Universo, and Rond Vidar, as well as the Sun Eater and Fatal Five.

I don't think we're going there again.