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Here is the synopsis and some preview images from episode three, Cry Wolf. After being convicted for a deadly attack on his father, Timber Wolf must escape Legion custody and track down the real assassin, while being both hunted and aided by various teammates. It¹s up to Chameleon Boy and Phantom Girl to help Timber Wolf clear his name and discover the truth.
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Three more images along with descriptions, provided by the WB. Phantom Girl is questioned by a quartet of Legionnaires searching for Timber Wolf. From left to right: Sun Boy, Cosmic Boy, Colossal Boy and Kell-El Phantom Girl tries to console Timber Wolf. In attempting to clear himself of his father's murder, Timber Wolf uses a bit of intimidation in his questioning of Professor Neerg.
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The Legion according to Dashiell Hammett, complete with noir-B movie atmosphere, voice-over narration, plot twist behind plot twist, and Peter Lorre (Prof. Neerg). I was afraid it was going to be a predictable replay of the Karth Arn story, but it wasn't. It was fantastic!! I approve of the possible romance brewing between Phantom Girl and Timber Wolf. And for the first time since his debut, Cham proved he's worthy of being a core Legionnaire. Kell-El filled classic Superman's role more than adequately and showed he's a true friend. I like him. If there'd been more Sun Boy moments, it would have been perfect. Henceforth, Cosmic Boy will be known as Mr. Pompous. I guess they're not allowed to use the phrase "anal-retentive" on kids TV.
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I worked late last night and so might have been groggy during the first scenes-- did the LSH really try and sentence Timber Wolf to Takron-Galtos? Pretty big shift from the team having to still gain the UP's trust, as the characters themselves stated last season, to absolute judicial power. Disturbing, to me, at least. Ugh- I disliked Cosmic Boy and his silent posse this episode. Pompous doesn't begin to cover it. Tell the writers to ignore the current Cos, please-- draw inspiration from the guy who helmed the reboot team, or had that memorable meal with Mordru. I was hoping for more Sun Boy, too. Phantom Girl and Cham were great-- a glimpse of Espionage Squads to come? There were echoes of a couple of classic LSH tales besides T-Wolf's origin-- the 'love-at-first-lam romance between Ultra Boy and Tinya (not to mention Duplicate Boy/Shrinking Violet, Brin/Ayla and Invisible Kid/Element Lad ) and the Star Boy expulsion issue. I'm intrigued by the ongoing plots of Brin's father... who are his allies?
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Originally posted by Mystery Lad: I'm intrigued by the ongoing plots of Brin's father... who are his allies? My guess: Imperiex, the Dominators (Brainy, Lighting Lad, etc. were off fighting them) and Mekt Ranzz.
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I noticed those links to previous LSH tales too, and would include Cham's role as supportive detective pal from Starlin's memorable Ultra Boy spotlight issue.
Can I get a hoo-HA for Colossal Boy? He looked GREAT! The lack of dialogue for him and Dirk was borderline criminal, though.
I'm really disliking the apparent boy-heaviness this season. I demand more Legion chicks kicking ass, STAT-- I don't care WHAT the little bratlings want. They need to man up and start liking girls already.
Cos was typical jackass Cos, circa S/LSH 212 and 215 and the current 3Boot.
This was the first S2 ep I've caught... I didn't realize Super-Mon (the nickname I've given this apparent Mon-El stand-in Superfellow) was going to replace real-Supes. Hmmm.
Overall, I liked it with the exception of the LSH as judge/jury/executioner. That left a bad taste in my soul.
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I liked the whole episode, esp. the intro of Chameleon Boy as leader of the Espionage Squad, even if they never used that term.
And I don't know about that the term "anal-retentive" can't be used in a kid's cartoon. The term comes from early childhood to begin with. I just think Cham would be unfamiliar with or uncomfortable using a term that references human anatomy.
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I liked the homage to the hero on the lam and the Star Boy expulsion. In this case, Cos took on the Brainiac 5 hard nosed role.
Over-all good, but I could have done without the "can I control the beast in me" angle. We saw that in TW's origin.
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Originally posted by MLLASH: I didn't realize Super-Mon (the nickname I've given this apparent Mon-El stand-in Superfellow) was going to replace real-Supes. Hmmm. Based on what I read, the two Supermen will share screen time throughout the season. Some episodes will feature Supes classic, some Supes X, and some will have both.
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As to the folk that were missing from this episode, the mention of them fighting the Dominators and Imperiex looks in line with what was shown in the preview for 'Chained Lightning' - which would mean these two episodes happen roughly at the same time. For some reason, this totally charms me. (Also, did I just see Lightning Lad in the preview with a mechanical arm? I didn't think they'd actually do that on a kid's show.)
The ep did do a good job with echoing last the last season, even if it was a bit predictable. Cham was pretty great addition to the story, so any doubts I might've had about the development of his character in the premiere are eased. Take THAT, Beast Boy. Also liked that Mr. 'Get the job done' was the one to break from procedure.
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can't wait to see Mekt vs Garth clash next week - but I wonder if Ayla will appear or not.... back to topic: love the episode...a little easy on prediction - I did predicted correctly that Lars is still alive but did not predict that he would (obviously) be allied with Imperiex...more threats to Legion. Chime me in as the one who wish to hear the dialogue (even one word) from Colossal Boy and Sun Boy....they're not Cos's guards or soldiers or whatever taht is. Karate Kid must have taught Timber Wolf how to wrestle with Colossal Boy's hand *heh* (but I noticed that poor Gim has been tossed so often lately!) Phantom Girl's power seems to be more amped up than before...she phased the floor to make Wolf/Cham escape, then can phase and carry Wolf and Cham through the wall. Tyroc has made many appearances on cartoon MORE than in comics, correct? Why Lightning Lad, B-5, and Bouncing Boy to Dominators? only three legionnaires against Dominators? that's like a suicide mission! Hmmm. Cos should have thought of sending additional members such as Vi, Dream Girl, Karate Kid, etc to accompany them, it would make sense. okay enough of me rambling...
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Good episode. Very dark and good pacing. Great story and got alot done with out rushing things. My only gripe is a superficial one. It kind of bugs me that Timber wolf was able to hurt Kell-el. If Kell has Superman's invulnerabilty then there should have been any damage on Kell's part. In fact i feel that Timber Wolf should have lost a finger or four.
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Ok episode, I'll start with the dislikes...
One: Don't feel this fits in well with eps 1 and 2. Like why is Kal-L (or whatever) at Legion HQ and not on the frontlines? seems like his character underwent a big shift there. I feel like this episode should have been later in the season, so as to preserve some of the things they set up with the first two eps.
Two: Kal-L as the voice of reason. This goes with point number one, the guy was not this far along emotionally at the end of episode 2, yet here he is, even with his brief lines, showing that a) he cares about the Legion rules ("but the evidence shows") and b) he already considers certain members friends (he had some line expressing this, I think to Cosmic Boy)
Three: Cosmic Boy as "Mr. Pompous" or 3boot jerk. I liked CB1 in his first appearance, when he joked with the team abit but was still a leader. Now he comes across very poorly and I'm sick of seeing Cos portrayed this way, hopefully his next apparence will redeem him Four: the T-Wolf complex, the beast within thing was done before and it felt a little over the top, especially at the end. All I hope is that they won't mess with it for the rest of the season, don't want it to be an annoying subplot
So four points that bugged me, the biggest one really being Cosmic Boy's portrayal. I also wish we had more speaking lines from Colossal Boy and Sun Boy, but I suppose we should be happy that we get some nice action shots and that they do show other Legionnaires doing things, with a cast this big it has to be a pain to branch out at all.
I did like Phantom Girl A LOT in this episode. I really like how in this one and in the first two you see her in a more mature light than from season one, I like the fact that she is getting more serious face time. Liked the fact that Cham was involved, hope for some Espionage goodness. Kinda weird that he stuck by the Legion camradiere when older members didn't, but at the same time I like the fact that even new members can stand up for the Legion ideal, and its not just the old timers showing them how its done.
The ep was ok, I find these film-noir ones to be a bit overdramatic and heavy handed, not my fave eps. However, this one showed some nice stuff, my fave scene being T-Wolf's reaction to watching his father 'die.' felt that was a well done scene.
All in all I wish Cos wasn't such a jerk, and that Kal-L wasn't in it at all since his role felt forced, but other than that some nice development occured and an entertaining ep.
Can't wait for next week though, that looks awesome.
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Originally posted by Lurker Lass: (Also, did I just see Lightning Lad in the preview with a mechanical arm? I didn't think they'd actually do that on a kid's show.) I think I saw that, too! I wonder if in this 'verse, Mekt is going to be the cause of Garth's loss... Cham was pretty great addition to the story, so any doubts I might've had about the development of his character in the premiere are eased. Yeah, I kinda hated his childish whackiness from last eps, so this was a refreshing change. Yay for NOT-Beast-Boy! Also liked that Mr. 'Get the job done' was the one to break from procedure. Coming from his situation, I'm surprised that Superclone didn't look supremely bored at the whole notion of a 'code vs killing,' given his bred-for-killing nature. If anything, he'd be more offended that Timber Wolf *broke a rule* than murdered someone. Military protocol and all that rubbish. Just needs more girl power. Definitely. They ramped up Phantom Girl a tad, which was welcome, but with Saturn Girl down for the count, the team is seriously lacking. The new 'grown-up' team looks way too muscular. Timber Wolf on trial looked freakish, with bulgy chest, tiny waist, bulgy thighs, tiny knees, bulgy calves and tiny ankles. Cartoony is one thing, but the male Legionnaires look like balloon animals! Still, for all my nitpicking, it was a cool ep, and I was flashing back the whole time to Ultra Boy being framed for the murder of An Ryd and having to hide from the Legion while establishing his innocence.
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oh yeah, this is what I want in an animated comic book show.
as Tromium mentioned , I liked the hard-boiled narration and film noir elements, complete with rain, seedy apartment and even seedier bar.
daddy dearest Londo will be a good recurring villian.
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If I read the credits at the beginning correctly this episode was written by J.M.DeMattis
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Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: I liked the homage to the hero on the lam and the Star Boy expulsion. In this case, Cos took on the Brainiac 5 hard nosed role.
Over-all good, but I could have done without the "can I control the beast in me" angle. We saw that in TW's origin. And we will probably see it again before too long. I see it as a recurring character bit for Brin, just as it often is for Wolverine in the X-Men.
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First of all, you read the credits correctly, Lone Wolf Legionnaire. And second, I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I can't help but wonder why no one else found this episode KICK ASS!?! I'm guessing it's because I'm a total Timber Wolf fan girl who thinks everything with him in it is awesome, so I'm just going to shut up and do my usual list of the good things and bad things about the episode...
Timber Wolf was kick ass, as usual. I'm glad we got a taste of how his heightened senses work, and how he was fearing/embracing his animal side. I especially liked the monologue! "People have always underestimated me, and they've always been wrong."
Cham also impressed me by showing some intelligence and coming to Timber Wolf's defense.
And let's not forget the TW/PG interaction, especially when she called him on being self-pitying, it reminded me of the part in Phantoms when TW called PG on being such a "princess." Now I'm starting to think the shippers might be on to something, because to me they have kind of a Princess Leia/Han Solo type of thing going on, but I guess we'll see.
And bonus points for the return of Dr. Londo(even if he did sound weird)! But one has to wonder...if Dr. Londo just wanted Brin on Rhaal, then why didn't he just use those nano-bot things to mind control him to take a cruiser there in the first place? You know, instead of setting a up a fake murder? But what fun would that be, right?
I agree with the people who said Cosmic Boy was a douche in this episode(Mr. Pompous, ha!). And it's too bad Saturn Girl wasn't mentioned since she was the one who calmed Timber Wolf down the first time around.
Lastly, I just have to say that hopefully Timber Wolf won't suffer from something I call "Cyborg Syndrom," which is basically where most of the character's episodes are just based around one aspect of said character. If anyone's ever watched Teen Titans, then you would probably agree that most of his episodes were based on the fact that he's half robot(complaining about the limitations of being half robot/wishing he was human again, etc.). What I'm trying to say is that if Timber Wolf gets more episodes centered around him(which he most likely will)that other aspects of his character are explored and not just the man/beast angle, because towards the end of this episode, it did feel like it was similar to the end of "Timber Wolf."
Whew! There, I'm done. Now I really need some ice cream.
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I liked the episode well enough, but didn't really think it fit in with the premise of the season, though. I mean, most of the Legionnaires were sitting around the cruiser (not liking the cruiser being Legion HQ, but that's kinda what they did last season, too), while a small handful were off fighting the Big Bad? Seemed a little off, to me.
Oh well.
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Maybe it's because I'm such a big Tinya fan, but I thought this was one of the best portrayals of the character I've ever seen. Her combination of fragility and irresistible determination has never been clearer.
If the producers are setting up a romance between Tinya and Brin, this might work even better than the standard Tinya/Jo pairing. Tinya and Jo's romance has often been written as a pairing of a pampered princess and an uncouth, streetwise thug. Brin actually fills the latter role better than Jo does.
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Wow, some of you guys have great eyes! I never would've seen LL's robot arm in a zillion years unless you pointed it out.
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On SupeX being the surprising voice of reason: I don't think it would be that out of character for him to reject procedure and, as it were, 'take care of one of their own.' (This is, of course, at the expense Cos's likeability.) I am assuming, however, that some time has passed between episode 2 and 3 - long enough for SupeX to feel some sort of affliation with the Legion.
I do wonder why he's not first in line to tackle Imperiex, though.
Also, Tinya is like a one-woman help group for angsty teenage boys. First Lightning Lad, now Timber Wolf...
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Add me to the list of those who felt like this story was a lot like Jo's stories in the comics. I like it all updated with Brin and his loss of control of his animal side. I'm very pleased.
I like that Cos played the "by the book" type. He tends to do that in this series.
I had no problem with Sun Boy and Colossal Boy having no lines. It's gonna happen with Legionnaires.
I was pleased to see Dreamy at the trial!
I liked Tinya's and Cham's roles. Would Cos throw an "obstruction of justice" book at them if it hadn't all worked out?
I miss the other girls, too.
As always, I'm just thrilled that this series is happening at all!
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I also loved this episode, but then, again, I am an unabashed T-Wolf fan. The legionnaire on the lam is a tried-and-true story, but those issues have been among my favorite. This one rivaled the Ultra Boy story as my favorite.
I will admit that I could have done without the voiceover. Yes, it was very film noirish, but I just found the lines very clunky. I did like the twists and the atmosphere (the darkness, the rain, and the seedy bar).
As for the "beast within" story, I'm happy they brought it back. Continuity is a good thing. It seemed to disappear last year, which was odd given how he jumped between man and beast forms in "Timber Wolf." Now it looks like we will see Brin changing form, though with some control. I don't want the man/beast battle to be the only aspect of Brin the show focuses on, but it gives the character a lot of depth. The only aspect of this part of the story that I disliked were the last lines. They were almost exactly like the ending of "Timber Wolf," just with Phantom Girl telling Brin that he was not alone this time.
As for Sun Boy and Colossal Boy not having lines, that was almost certainly an economic decision. Giving them lines means hiring actors to do the voiceover and paying royalties.
My only other gripe is that I'm confused about who is leading the Legion right now. Some time has passed since last season, when Bouncing Boy was elected leader, so I guess he must not be leader now. But who is? Cosmic Boy was conducting the trial, so does that mean he is the leader? That seems odd because he did not take seem to take a leadership role in the Imperiex episodes. I thought the leader might be Lightning Lad, but if he were, I would have expected Brin's trial to wait until he could oversee it. Am I right to be confused or was there something said during the first two episodes that I missed.
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