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For those of you who collect action-figures, you probably know that DCDirect halted production of Legion figures a couple of years ago.
They had started with the Silver Age Legion -- but didn't find a big market.
Personally, I would have started with character designs from the 70s and 80s, but maybe there aren't enough fans who remember the Legion from then to support figures from that era.
Any way, my question is ... if we could convince DCD to try another wave of Legion, who would you recommend? Would you like to see Legion figues from the 70s/80s. Maybe a Great Darkness Saga series of figures? Or just jump forward to the current version... and if so, whom would you pick for the first wave?
Here are some figures I think would do okay:
1) Lightning Lad (70s/80s costume) It would be easy to do a Modern Age variant with a change in boot color and addition of the extended lightning bolt effect.
2) Dawnstar. We could see her in a Crisis of Infinite Earths wave some day. She seems to be popular -- and being that she's a winged figure -- she'd look darned cool.
3) Karate Kid (70s white/black costume). This is the costume he had in his own series. Plus, it's very Bruce Lee -- and may appeal to karate/judo fans (are there any still around?) as well as Legion fans.
4) Dream Girl in her silvery 70s/80s costume. I'd stay away from the stiff Farrah hair-do that Keith Giffen gave her -- and go with a more natural style. I think this figure could also be done as an MA variant (or vice-versa) with a bit of tweaking.
5) Cockrum Timber Wolf -- the character that is kinda the early prototype of Wolverine deserves a figure. I wouldn't mind the Lightle costume -- but it would need a variant feral head. Not really a fan of the costume he had during the Great Darkness Saga.
Other characters for consideration:
Wildfire in 70s costume
Blok (in his red/blue long johns)
Star Boy -- I'd increase his marketability by adding a Kingdom Come variant head
Early 80s Supergirl -- to tie in with the Great Darkness Saga
70s or 80s Shadow Lass. Prefer her with the sexy black costume and long hair -- but the Giffen costume was kind cool also (one of the few designed by Giffen that I liked).
If Modern Age, I'd pick:
Light Lass
Phantom Girl
Timber Wolf (againg -- need a feral head variant -- even though he hasn't show this side in the current series)
Triplicate Girl
Ultra Boy
Colossal Boy
Shadow Lass
Dream Girl
Star Boy
What do you guys think would make the most popular figures. It's okay to list your favorites, but also comment on which ones you think would be most appealing to Legion fans as well as non-Legion action-figure collectors.
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Just on looks alone, I think Dawnstar would be the best seller. Blok (as "big figures sell well") would be another choice to sell a wave. White Witch (Giffen) would get some impulse buying going too.
Also, whether you like her or hate her, Sensor (half-human) would get some non-Legion love if she were an action figure.
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White Witch could be cool -- she certainly was in the 90s.
If DC would produce a DVD of the Great Darkness Saga (as they have planned with the Judas Contract) , it would help promote that era for action figures.
Surely, other fans have an opinion on this? Heck, I've wanted a set of Legion figures since before super hero figures were even being produced.
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I've noticed most Legion fans do not equal action figure fans. That may be why we don't see them selling as well as they should. Which is a shame. I'm just hoping Levitz's modesty doesn't prevent a Great Darkness Saga DVD from happening. That also would be a shame.
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well from the re-boot era i'd go with almost all of them, and since the Hero clix did a good job with most of the Reboot legionnaire. it would be cool to see them in 6inch size and i'd love to see a Thunder, Kinetix, and Andromeda figure.
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I'd love to see action figures from any era. Given DCD's current proclivities, I guess figs from the current series stand the best chance of being produced. But, you never know.
I think Dawnstar and Wildfire are great choices. No doubt Lightning Lad and T-Wolf would look great, but I'd hope that DCDirect would stick to Legionnaires that haven't been made yet. Which means they'll probably be announced next month.
They *are* in the cartoon, now that I think about it.
Shadow Lass might sell. Actually, any of the girls in their 'skimpier' costumes would be possibilities.
Somebody should buddy up with Alex Ross. Maybe he can through the Legion into the later issues of JUSTICE or whatever his next project is and get him to tell DC he wants to do a line of Legionnaires.
On an unrelated but adjacent matter, I'm planning to buy a couple of MARVEL LEGENDS HAVOK figures and use them in my first ever tries at customization. I plan to turn one Alex Summers into Lyle Norg and a second into Jan Arrah (the reboot versions). That'd require minimal painting.
My dilemma is this- I don't know heads would work. Does anyone have any suggestions for figures with heads that could pass for INVISIBLE KID and ELEMENT LAD of the reboot Legion? Possibly aged a bit?
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You know -- I was a huge fan of both the X-Men and Legion in the 70s and early 80s. I'm probably not alone in liking both series -- as Dave Cockrum was a strong bridge between the two series.
Anywho -- I always thought there was a strong similarity between Havok and Molecule Master. I do have a Havok figure (still in its box). But if I could find a second (by some mircacle) -- it could easily be converted to MM.
I agree that getting Alex Ross in our corner could help a great deal. Even better if he'd do a one-shot featuring the Cockrum/Grell Legion -- as that is the only Legion stories he likes. His litho of that era is awesome (have it in digital form only).
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It seems to me that DC would be best off at maing a line of action figures based on the designs of the upcoming cartoon. This would be a great promotion and they would have a few years to sell the figures while the cartoons were still in production and running.
Trying to cater to any older versions of the Legion comics would be difficult to get a mass appeal, I would think.
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I'd naturally be enthusiastic about any Dawnstar and Wildfire figures! It's a bit of a paradox that we might be more likely to see Dawny in physical form, as an action figure, than in animation, due to the cost and intricacy of portraying wings.
Even though some of the custom crafters, such as Minesurfer, have already almost certainly outdone what DC might come up with for commercial production, I still want to see those pinions on the comic-book-store shelves. And, hopefully, flying *ahem* off of them.
I'll buy two, Mr. Levitz. That, also, is the paradox: Those of us with, generally, more of the disposable income for these things are more likely to be especially fond of the Cockrum/Grell looks.
... Speaking of whom: What, I have to ask, would a "Great Darkness Saga DVD" entail? Are you talking about animation, NC, or their putting the existing printed tales on disc? Has Levitz floated any possibility of such a project?
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Preboot Legion, in Cockrum/Grell outfits.
Postboot Legion, Moy style.
Current Legion.
Animated Legion.
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Originally posted by Greybird: It's a bit of a paradox that we might be more likely to see Dawny in physical form, as an action figure, than in animation, due to the cost and intricacy of portraying wings. They didn't seem to have a big problem with it with Hawkgirl. The wings didn't do too much, but Dawny would be in space or possibly using her Legion flight ring to explain why hers wouldn't move much.
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They would've sold better if they weren't so crappy looking.
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I'm torn here... I'd love to see the silver age girls finished first and foremost.
After that... I'd probably just like to see iconographic/first appearance versions of the non-silver age legionnaires from any era that weren't made in the silver age run. Characters like Catspaw, Dawnstar, Wildfire, Shikari, Thunder, Monstress, Dragonmage, Kinetix... (you get the idea) are the ones I'd like to see.
I'm torn because I'd have to buy them if they were produced and I seem to have kicked my action figure habit. Also... if DC Direct made them, then I wouldn't feel like making them myself, and I've already got some figures sitting around waiting for me to take up customizing again.
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Originally posted by Kid Quislet: It seems to me that DC would be best off at maing a line of action figures based on the designs of the upcoming cartoon.
Trying to cater to any older versions of the Legion comics would be difficult to get a mass appeal, I would think. Two problems with these suggestions. A major toy company -- probably Mattel -- will have first dibs on Legion figures. DC can make more money off of licensing the figures instead of producing them. Of course, it could be a good opportunity for DCD to produce vesions of the characters that are most similar to the TV show -- that would probably be the reboot/90s Legion or the 80s Legion. Regarding your second point, the MA Legion is missing some popular characters espeically Dawnstar, Wildfire and Bouncing Boy. Also missing White Witch and a feral Timber Wolf.
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There is a great interview with Georg Brewer, Vice President of Design DCD at Figures.com and a talk back thread where Georg should be posting in few days. Push for those new LSH figs
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I don't know how you feel, but with the classic Legion popping up all over the DCU (I only saw the covers but MAN, am I looking forward to my monthly comic shop delivery...soon...), I really hope that they will do some Legion figures via "The Lightning Saga"...
Dawnstar, Dream Girl, Karate Kid never had an action figure, Star Boy was only available in the old Silver Age costume.
After getting Superboy via "Infinite Crisis", I really am very optimistic that some new (and FEMALE!!!) Legionnaires might join my collection soon...
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As I pointed out in my questions in the talk back, the anniversary along with the legions new, front and center status in this new multiverse, begs for a new series of figures based on the classic Cockrum designs along with the new WaK designs. Imagine some of the great 2 packs that could be released - The 2 Violets, The 2 Starboys, The 2 Element Lads, a Dawnstar and Wildfire 2 pack!
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I don't know, I personally would not be interested in two versions of each character in one box - it makes no sense to put them together in the current action scene "Legionnaires meeting Batman and fighting Mordru" in my glass cabinet... I just need ONE Element Lad A Wildfire figure would rock, as would ANY female Legionnaire (Tinya and Ayla would be my favorites)...
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Guess what I voted! 
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Silver Age all the way! Thanks Jorge! 
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darn it how is that pesky Levitz/Giffen Legion winning?! 
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Well, I didn't vote for Silver Age, but I don't like the fact that the current Legion has more votes. I'd rather continue the Silver Age before even thinking about the current costumes.
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I wonder if the introduction of Showcase Presents figures means we'll see them finally complete the Legion set?
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