Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Legion Of Super Heroes #1

Actually, the Earth ban of GL's goes back to the reveal of it right after the Great Darkness Saga. Do not remember the exact issue number, but it was Blok watching an old archive story.

The "on Mondays" bit comes from 5YL.

Th GL ban is 1st mentioned in LSH Annual #1, I believe - right before GDS. But we don't find out why until right after (295)

Woot, finally got it!

I am all sorts of impressed that Levitz went into detail about Titan being unlivable without complicated life-support.

Sun Boy being out for blood was surprising. I don't remember him being this much a 'hothead.' Of the Legionnaires, I could see Polar Boy being the most pissed off at him, having lost an arm, and a former teammate, and, presumably, friend (in the hapless Double-Header), to Earth-Man.

Brainy being both cold and calculating during his leisurely stroll through dying Titan to collect his precious equipment, and freaking out over Earth-Man's admission to the team was jarring. He's not just showing signs of being crazy, he's showing signs of being *evil.* Did his encounter with Brainiac in the past infect him, similar to what happened in the second season of the cartoon?

Lots of plot seeds being scattered about. It should be interesting to see where they are going.

don't forget Sun Boy's unique situation under EM's control - whie the others were essentially frozen, he was tortured as a living battery - and seemed ot have lost his powers thereafter, for part of L3W.

It's to Levitz' credit to show Dirk still dealing with his feelings, rather than defaulting to template. Even s he comes to terms, the experience should be one with lasting consequences.

and Brainy is certainly showing antisocial behaviors, but nothing I'd call evil. At this point, anyway.

Bought it. Read it. Loved it.

• Saturn Girl shone like the star she is.
• Braniac 5 needs to dial down the crazy.
• Love Yildiray's Cosmic Boy.
• Love his Ultra Boy too.
• GiGi Cusimano!
• Imra's "panic room" is a great idea.
• 9 panel grid showing reaction to destruction was very effective for me.
• Legion being forced to admit Earth Man is brilliant. Raises so many ethical quandries.
• Don't really care about the Green Lantern stuff, but it wasn't terribly annoying either.

further thoughts on Imra's TK:

As established by Mentalla, there are different types of psi powers among Titanians. What if Imra is not using her own TK, but rather using her training, her Legion discipline, to direct the TK of others nearby, who are to panicked to properly act?

just a thought.

It would actually be kind of cool if she "learned" TK from Tellus.

I honestly don't get the upset with the costumes as stated by some fans. I think they strike a nice balance between streamlining and the little flourishes/details, mostly.

Well, Dawny's costume will always be nine thousand kinds of stupid, but I suppose that can't be helped.

As far as whether Imra has TK now, I decided to ask Paul himself on Facebook. We'll see if/how he responds!

Oh, I loved the emphasis/reminder of how fast Dawnstar truly is!

Set's mention of DOuble Header reminded me... no mention of Infectious Lass.

I know she's a minor character in the scheme of things and whatever, but really, this "Dru stuck in the 21st Century" thing needs to be addressed.

Jeepers! No fair! How are we supposed to spend endless hours quibbling speculating over the import of tiny details if you spoil it all by asking the creator what they're supposed to mean?

Of course, his beautifully ambiguous responce should provide much fodder:

I thought Mentalla was a just a bog-standard telepath, who used her powers more actively to control others minds, as Imra has been doing for years?

Did she also have telekinesis or precognition or something?

It might be interesting if Nura is also beefed up, being yet another psychic character that some might regard as having a 'weak' power (assuming that they haven't seen her Threeboot interpretation, or the movies Next or Minority Report, which present a more exciting view of precognition).

Not that I regard the woman who bursts into Universo's office, and before he could order Mon-El and Ultra Boy to kill her, shut them off like a light as 'weak,' but apparently I'm in the minority in not thinking that Imra needed telekinesis to be strong or effective...

I don't hate the change, but I think we've got enough new stuff to deal with without adding even more arbitrary changes to characters personalities and powers, like Quislet's new ability to shoot energy beams and stuff, in his 21st century appearances.

She says something to the effect that her powers, compared to Saturn Girl's, are "less a matter of reading minds than controlling them", which is still a variation of telepathy.

See also half-Titanian Mandalla, who (as I recall) had powers focused primarily on creating hallucinations.

These are both versions of telepathy, but with different emphasis than Imra was traditionally given (though at times, especially more recently, she has been able to do both). Having her gain telekinesis does seem like a bigger stretch than expanding her telepathic abilities.

At one point, the flight rings themselves enabled the user to do things that are similar to TK... Depending on their willpower...

As for Nura, the idea of her fighting by predicting the opponent's move was from Levitz's run, and I believe it actually had precedent before that.

And no one could ever deny Imra being chock full of willpower! In fact, let's give HER a Green ring...

So did he say anything about basing it on Adventure 267?

(And no, it wasn't just the cover only; she did it in the issue.)

I have to say it was a very good start. Paul really did a good job on getting the feel of the Legion.
I do have to say the Imra's TK powers did take me buy surprise. Thou...alot could have happened while she and the others were underground fighting Earth-Man. I do like the power boost and don't think that it will undermine Tellus at all.
I do have to agree with Lash, she was never one of my favorites, but now that we see she has to keep some of her secrets hidden makes since.

Brainy was a little off, but this could also be just Brainy. Rememeber is is a 12th level intelect dealing with normal people.

The death of Titan was also out of left field for me...So soon after seeing how it was "seeded", to being blown up was sort of shocking. Nice "gotta cha" Paul.

The Earth-Man/Green Lantern angle doesn't suit me thou. I'm almost hoping Sun Boy fries his @$$ or Polar Boy. BUT the one I really want to see freak out when they see Earth-Man is Tyroc. Considering that it was Tyroc that took him down the first time way back in the day.

I would also love to see some of the Subs that are still around. What condition they are in now. Surely they can grow eyes for Color Kid, and find Drura and Pete.

Someone brought up the couples aspect of some of the Legionnaires. Imra and Garth are still together. Don't know about Tinya and Jo....but Shady and Mon seemed to still act like a couple during L3W.

My only question is...isn't Dream Girl still a prisoner of General Lane? I seem to remember Starman finding her there?

All in all a very good issue.

Normal people can deal with others. Being a twelfth level intellect shouldn't make him lose the ability that normal people have. Yes, smart people sometimes act like that in real life but it's not because intelligence itself keeps you from interacting with normal people, it's a flaw.

It's also an extreme exaggeration of how he used to act. He did have occasional moments of frustration with everyone else, but they were just moments. And he was acting indifferent to people flirting with him or wanting to find the outcome of sports games--not indifferent to death and destruction or to a friend's need to protect her children.

Super intelligence should include social intelligence.

I have one quibble - it's not a big deal at all, but it doesnt really make sense to me, and someone else may have mentioned it in the previous 8 pages and I didn't notice.

Why is Brainy WALKING to the Time Institute rather than flying? Shouldn't he have a greater sense of urgency than that? He's floating above the ground but not really propelling himself. What gives?