Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes New R.E.B.E.L.S. Comic Discussion Thread.

REBELS is still my favorite title out there. The 3-way Brainiac battle was a lot of fun. I thought Pulsar Stargrave was excellent, and enjoyed seeing Lobo get thumped some. Wasn't Pulsar Stargrave created way back in the original Legion series by the scientists of Colu, and didn't he contain all the information of the Coluan computer core? The non-ending leaves the possibility of a Brainiacs rematch almost a certainty, which is good.

Not a huge Lobo fan, but I didn't mind him here. I agree with the posted sentiments that we should see some of the other REBELs characters more (has there been a Tribulus sighting lately?).

I don't mind Lobo when he's used sparingly, but I'm really not interested in him getting the spotlight too often.

It was odd seeing Strange, Comet and Starfire crowd out the regulars for a bit, and then Lobo come along and crowd out almost everyone. Probably sales driven (though I'm not sure it helped).

Hopefully the next story arc will give more characters screen time.

Yes, Kori.
sigh

I hate the whole rape/alien sex thing that goes with Starfire's origin and having it brought back as a planet wide way of treating their females is very off-putting to me.
ugh

The fact that the Guardians say that they MADE the Psions makes everything worse.
Millions and millions, perhaps billions, of females treated like souless meat and the Guardians did NOTHING!

The very idea makes me dispise them.
Fun stuff.
Not.

I enjoyed the Brainiacs story; even Lobo seemed to fit in as opposition to Brainiac.

However, not great news that Starro is returning. I would have liked to see Astrid Stormdaughter again, but fear we're going to get a big Starro-Lobo fight, which just doesn't appeal.

I had to sigh, too, when I saw Starro (or Starro's host, or whatever) return. I would have thought that he would have slinked ("slunk"?) back to re-establish his authority over his first galaxy long before he'd decide to go after Dox.

However, I like that Stormdaughter is still around. Visually, she is such a striking character, and her background is rife with possibilies. I could even she her getting a violent/romantic relationship with B2. Remember his first date with Stealth, anyone? He had to be measured for a box instead of a wedding ring.

Honestly, I love both Adam Strange and Captain Comet, but does the title need both? I know there are commercial reasons for pasting Green Lanterns on DC covers, but we've gotten to know these GLs before we have really explored the characters we met in the first few issues.

I suppose my griefs all have to do with wanting more of these characters. That must be a sign that the creators are doing something right.

Hey, Cramer, have I ever told you that your tag-line has helped me more than once? Especially in traffic!

A Stormdaughter/B2 "romantic" alliance could be pretty interesting. He would be driven by self-interest, she would still be serving Starro but could Dox work over her mind to suit his own purposes? Even under Starro's power, I figure Dox will look out for himself.

Glad the quote has helped you. I leave it there as a reminder to myself to have more patience.

I loved your other quote but this new one is interesting, too.

Stormdaughter, I love that character for some reason, certainly had no trouble with Lobo!
THAT would be some match-up, for sure.

I don't know what she sees in Starro or why she'd stay with him if she didn't have to.
He's so ugly, inside and out.
Maybe, it's Stockholm Syndrome?

Vril better not trust Blackstar, either.

I wonder again, about Lydea Darkstar.
Where is she?
Did Vril put her in stasis for the last years so that she could emerge at her correct age with some more healthy growing years in her memory?
I wish.
sigh
I'd like her to team up with Lyrl again, as equals.

I feel so sorry for Comet.
He's one of my favorite DC characters, ever since he was in .LEGION.

Starfire has some major issues from her days as a child victim of rape and torture, which she's never resolved and may NEVER resolve.
Sad.

I caught on Rebels a bit but realize I’m way behind in terms of this thread still. All I know is the last few issues have been pretty good in terms of being solid stories, but there are a few things about this comic that are becoming more and more noticeably annoying. Namely, way too much attention is being focused on Dox and the Green Lanterns. For a ensemble cast, no one seems to be doing much other than Dox, Starfire and Lobo. Adam Strange & Captain Comet have good scenes every 2-3 issues but even that’s not enough. Worse than that is the large group assembled within the first 12 issues, who haven’t done anything in awhile. I hope this is rectified immediately.

Meanwhile, Starro is returning and that worries me too, considering scenes focusing on Starro a lot are already starting to bore me. Now that he’s returning, I’m realizing the ‘barbarian king’ look of the Starro is pretty dumb; the giant alien starfish look was much cooler, weirder and scarier. I must have just given it a pass at first so I could enjoy the new Rebels series. By now, I’m realizing its kind of sucky.

The writing is tight and the artwork is great. But the series needs to refocus on what makes it different from the other GL titles; it should be reveling in it’s diverse cast (and should by now have brought in Stealth completely restored).

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The writing is so brilliant for this book!
And the art is fantastic, too.
I love the Lobo clone twist and can't wait to see what happens next.

I WAS a little troubled to see what Lobo did to Storm Daughter, though.

Bleeding Cool has the book (and Doom Patrol and others) canceled. Mostly to make way for the Flashpoint minis that tie into the crossover.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/02/14/dc-cancels-books-to-make-way-for-flashpoint/

Oh, fuck that.

Honestly, I think DC has given REBELS (and Doom Patrol) a pretty fair shake, given how much both have struggled saleswise pretty much from the get-go. I think if both were successful, Flashpoint would not have impacted them. The writing's been on the wall a long time. Marvel would've cancelled them after 4 or 5 issues.

The first Starro story went on too long, I considered dropping the title when I read of the new storyline.
I'll stay with it to the end now. Too bad, I did enjoy it for the most part.

Sales have been very low but stable for a long time...the writing was on the wall.

Gaa...aaahh...aack!

I like REBELS!

I'm trying not to take this news personally.

Drats!

'Drats' is right.
sigh

One of the few comics with limitless possibilities.
Super types not stuck to being heroes only.
Complex multicultural and angst ridden character interactions.
Backdrops to explore by the billions.

Did I sigh already?

Sorry to see this title go.

I thought the Starro plotline had been resolved by now. Guess not.

Still, hate to see a space-based title get axed. Such a variety beyond the Legion is good for DC.

Giffen's Doom Patrol was a good book too.

L.E.G.I.O.N./R.E.B.E.L.S. is a book with infinite potential and is a perfect compliment to DC's cosmic Green Lantern franchise, touching upon many of DC's cosmic properties that the Green Lantern hasn't touched upon (Vegan system, Omega Men, Tamaran, Psion). The book never seemed to find it's audience, partially because DC resisted the urge and missed to opportunity to tie the title closely to the Green Lantern Corps universe. Playing up the name of the organization, the part about Ending Lantern Supremacy, but more importantly the fact that Vril Dox was given a ring in the Sinestro Corps. If reinstated into the Corps Dox, as leader of R.E.B.E.L.S. would become the 2nd most powerful member of the Sinestro Corps. This would both provide Sinestro with a powerful new faction for his organization but also a powerful rival for control of his name sake Corp. Seeing Sinestro and Dox playing off each other would be a joy to read. Both are ego maniacs and their views of the universe aren't really that different. They are both all about control, whether by cunning, intelligence and/or manipulation. Sinestro while realizing that Dox is a treat would also recognize him as a tool for keeping him constantly sharp and on top of his game. It would also make R.E.B.E.L.S. a defacto Sinestro Corps book as well.

*removed*

And the writers kill a great character like Stealth for nothing....

Well, I'll miss it.

Lyrl gave Tribulous brains, head gear and a reboot.
NOW he looks like Validus.

I'm one of the few, I guess, but I hated Levitz's idea all those years ago of making one of the Granzz twins into Darkseid's revenge.

I was happy to see that debunked or something, in the retroboot.

*removed*

Well, I like REBELS and think it is one of the best titles out there, and I am sad to see it ending. While I'm not a big fan of how Wildstar came about (her creation did undermine the existence of two Legion characters from decades earlier), I still think the writing was sharp, innovative, and did credit to a large cast. I've always liked a science fiction space opera, and REBELS is one of the few that DC has out there. The artwork throughout the run has been top notch.

In regard to Validus, I thought the Validus virus that Garth/Proty had in 5YL was really an explanation on how Darkseid twisted the Ranzz child into Validus. The origin of the Validus-type creature(s) was never really explored until now, even though there have been random sightings of Validus-like creatures (besides Tribulus, the GL Validus for one). In regard to Pulsar Stargrave, that character was infrequently used, so a definitive origin for it was still open. The Pulsar Stargrave entity in REBELS was imaginative and fun.

I don't think that having similar characters in titles that are different from each other, in this case by about a thousand years is a problem, at all.

That's like saying that Supergirl bastardizes Superman or Jean Grey does the same for Saturn Girl or Sue Storm/Invisible Kid or Green Lantern/Green Lanterns or . . .

I find Wildstar to be the beginning of a wonderfully relized character. The fact that she was a cripple and outcast of her people alone, gives her a uniqueness that's sufficient to me.

Is the Roman goddess Venus bastardized because she's a direct copy of Aphrodite?

And I love the reverse Legacy of the dotLEGION idea.

Besides, I don't know if the Flashpoint title 'Legion of Doom' is about the Doom Patrol or dotLEGION or LSH or what?
So, maybe it's not canceled.

Love Kid Quislet's explaination of the Validus virus!