Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Levitz confirms who will join

DC confirms who the new member will be:

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/07/07/paul-levitz-and-francis-portela-on-legion-of-super-heroes-2/

Confirms that Dragonwing, Chemical Kid and Glorith are joining. Guess the others stay in the Academy.

Hope this isn't a duplicate thread.

I honestly expected Comet Queen to make it with the build up she got from the spotlight issue.

Not surprised Variable Lad didn't make it in. He hasn't received much attention.

I also expected Gravity Kid rather that Glorith to make the cut.

hmm, guess this boot has been diverted from 5YG.

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anyway, I was hoping these kids would be in academy stories for a while ... and we'd get some of the awesome background players of the Legion universe in the Legion ... or at least some of the good 'old' academy students. Guess the creative team wants to do something different.

Quantum Queen
Dev Em

a non sleazy Atmos
any of the Lallorians
the all new all different Reflecto ...

or one of the kids that was close to entry ... way back in 1986.
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like .... Comet Queen, Energy Boy, Pb.

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well imagine how PB, Nightwind, Lamprey, and Crystal Kid feel when they find out that Chemical Kid, Dragonwing and Glorith gets inducted into the Legion. oh boy, not a good sign.

Legion admissions seems kinda like a sham after this. Especially since two of the three inducted aren't even that nice of people.

It will make for good stories, and helps to balance out the powers in a team. It might be because of all the anime I watched and Pokemon I have played, but I like a variety of powers/skill sets in teams.

I think Chemical Kid has changed a bit for the better from his little adventure. Dragonwing, I see as someone who might end up with the Legion of Supervillains.

How the hell does acid breath powers top the abilties of those who did not make in?

Answer: It doesn't.

I'm with Peebs: A sham, indeed.

I've played a lot of Pokemon myself and I like power balance.
But, I think they could have gotten that with Nightwind and Comet Queen added, possibly Crystal Kid too, ampted up a little.

The thing I dislike most about this is the loss of the Academy stories.
I loved those, especially seeing Lu, Lydda and Chuck in action, with Phil drawing them, of course.

Interesting how Gravity Lad doesn't make the cut only two days after his relationship with Power Boy is confirmed.

Speaking as a hetero-sexual guy, I still find it quite wrong.

In the interview, Levitz does say that there will be other changes that they're not yet revealing. The recent grads might still get represented. Or the Heroes of Lallor... The Wanderers... the Subs... the Academy Faculty...

Doesn't look good for Gravity Kid or Variable Lad joining, though. Darn it.

The current class of Academy kids is a rare case where I find the super-heroines far less interesting than their male counterparts. At least Chemical Kid gets in... though finding out why Tel, who seems like such a good fit already, isn't "called up" should be interesting.

Both Glorith and Dragonwing seem psychologically unprepared to be Legionnaires, to me. Where's Imra and her LSH qualifying headscans? Glorith continues Levitz's concept of 31st century magic as being all in the preparation, which makes it limited and interesting, so that's to the good. Will she take a more traditional hero name?

Dragonwing's got the name. They've both got distinctive looks. Unlike Glorith, Dragonwing's power is boring. Now, if she is or became a weredragon... that'd intrigue me. Or if we found out she was a dragon wearing human 'skin'. If none of the above, perhaps she could form a bond with a space dragon and be it's friend/rider/keeper.

Previously, they said that Power Boy and Lamprey were not Legionnaire material because similarly powered Individuals were already full-time Members. If Star Boy remains alive and an active member then this would aply to Gravity Kid too. With Chemical King dead and the Witch not currently an active member, Chemical Kid and Glorith have no counterparts already in the Legion. I guess the same can be said for Dragonwing. Variable Lad might have had a shot except that he is a living Deus Ex Machina that no sane writer probably wants to deal with on a regular basis. I have no Idea why Nightwind and Crystal Kid and Comet Queen didn't make the cut.
Sending Power Boy all the way off to Takron Galtos is just mean spirited and petty though. Kind of like in the Reboot story where the ambassadors were revealed to be a same sex couple only to have one turn out to be corrupt. If the writers can't handle an open, ongoing, normal homosexual relationship then I'd really rather they not introduce the relationship or even a gay character at all. Introducing it and then imediately breaking it up or making one or both of the characters disappear (aka Jan and Sean circa 5YL) is unacceptable... and just plain hateful.

Even if Star Boy's active, there's no one with the Light Lass powers currently. If they were good enough to keep Ayla around all those years, why wouldn't they be sufficient to let in an earnest, hard-working Academy student? Especially, when he can back them up with the 'heavier' side that Ayla couldn't?

I think with Phil out of the picture, Levitz simply has no interest in writing gay characters. That's sad, but understandable I guess. Too bad for those of us in the Legion of Gay LSH Fans.

I don't find it understandable at all.



He should thank his lucky stars for places like this. I left the genre in disgust once twenty years ago, over its retrograde thinking about gender, class, race, orientation... etc. Seeing how little changes for the better makes me wonder why I ever came back. The community you all have (and a few of the others on LJ) is the only reason I can think of some days.

Sometimes I feel pretty dirty ponying up. The people in charge make it so blatantly obvious that they love my money, but not enough to show me any love in the actual stories.

I agree with cleome that I don't understand or find it accept that Levitz doesn't want to write using gays.

He confirmed Ayla & Salu as a couple in the Annual.

I haven't seen the confirmation of Grav and PB yet. Is it in the current issue out, which I don't get until Saturday, or did I miss something?

The new Stormwatch book in September is going to focus on a famous gay couple, Apollo & Midnight(is that his name? I'm blanking, sorry!)

Perhaps the problem isn't with gay couples, but with couples in general.
He wrote Imra and Garth out, destroyed Shady and Lar, broke up Rokk and Lydda, wrote out Mysa and Blok, while Wildfire, Dawnstar and Yera are getting LOST.
Who does that leave?
Tinya and Jo are uninspired in their relationship and almost a token representation.

Anyway, on ML's ideas for Dragonwind, I like them and have seen them in different books over the years.
The art work that Phil presented us with, made the small dragons on her shawl look like dragon holograms that moved around her.
I'd sort of like to see that worked with, her holograms being real somehow, either as extensions of her powers or as 'familiars' from another dimension or something.

I totally agree with those who said this is a sham. Nightwind's powers > Dragonwing's any day.

And wasn't it Levitz who wrote the stories wherein several applicants (I'm looking at you, Atmos!) weren't accepted because of their egos? Um, hello, Chemical Kid?

And bringing in Glorith, when Mysa is still out there? (Heck, why not just resurrect was robbed!

PS where was the Power Boy - Gravity Kid relationship confirmed? I hope they'll continue to spotlight it. It's about time we got an open homosexual relationship in the Legion comics.

I once wrote about a Sklarian male named Zenith who had Aylaesque powers. I'd love to see something like that.

In this week's ADVENTURE 528, Jed Rikane (Power Boy) graduates alongside Nightwind, Lamprey and Crystal Kid and is assigned to work with the SPs at Takron-Galtos. He's not happy about it, but Gravity Kid is also unhappy about the assignment. He takes it out on some tech and on his classmates (verbally- a bit) before meeting Jed outside. He offers to come get Jed if he starts to 'rot' on the prison planet. He hugs the hero- one hand resting on Jed's bare chest (Jed's in his cleavage-plunging costume). The words 'boyfriend', 'gay' or 'lover' aren't used- but there's no way that's a casual embrace between straight workout buddies.

*removed!*

[Wrong thread, not being snarky!)

Thanks for the answer, ML.

Wasn't Lamprey cuddling with Jed in an earlier issue?
He might just be the huggy type.
lol

No, but in the same issue that they came out of a room together scantily dressed, Lamprey was depicted as practically crawling all over Jed. I guess THAT is allowed. The term 'prejudiced' isn't doing it for me. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">BIGGOTED</span></span> comes closest. And as nasty a word as it is, It is what I am feeling about DC in general and a certain writer in particular right now.

Wow, somehow I TOTALLY missed the Power Boy/Gravity Kid relationship. I feel ignorant! I think Gravity Kid's status depends in part on whether Star Boy bites the big one in the current series finale. If Thom dies, he's in. What a dilemma! I also wouldn't be too quick to condemn Levitz -- he has restored Ayla and Salu as a couple. Give it a chance to play out.

The main thing I look for in Legionnaires (or any superhero, for that matter) is that the powers be clearly defined. I a little concerned about Dragonwing in that regard. Acid breath, but it comes out of her hands? And the tongue has some power? It's not the vaguest power out there, but it worries me still.

Another thing to keep in mind, as to who's in and who's not, is that they are being brought in BECAUSE of an emergency--7 Legionnaires are "lost" due to a cataclysm (or near cataclysm) and I imagine other things are happening, too, that we don't know about yet. In those conditions, you draft whomever you need the most, regardless of experience, seniority, training, etc.

I don't think we've seen the last of the Academy, at all. Levitz clearly loves it--it was a regular feature of prior tenure. It may have served its purpose for now, but when he needs it again, it will return.

I'm holding out hope that the additions are temporary and that if Paul does want to add to the membership that he takes from the original fan-favorite cast.

Maybe fan backlash will have him change his mind. Let's hope so.