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Good episode.
My prediction:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Juliet ends up siding with the Losties, and betrays Ben as far as whatever he's got planned.</span></span>
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I hope you're right.
In that promo Sun said something about not trusting "him." For some reason, the way she said it makes me wonder if we should be trusting her. She can't be working for the Others, though, because she killed one of them. Then again, so did Juliet...
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damn them! I finally felt like I could exhale because they were showing the viewing audience all the trials that this person had gone thru, thus finally allowing myself to fully enjoy the feelings of affection I'd been supressing all this time... and then they slammed us with that ending. <shakes fist in air>
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You just need to learn to love the bad guys.
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Well at least I got my answer as to how Juliet happened to have the key.
And some of the Others backstory has shot down my theory on the island. It's good to know Ben has always been a jerk. I think EDE's on the right track with Juliet and where her allegiance will end up.
A good story, but dagnabbit gimme some Sun!
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Man, did this ep give me bad dreams (mothers/babies dying). Very good, though. Normally, I have little interest in blondes, but I love Juliet more with each episode.
I have a question, reflecting my ignorance of the details revealed early in the show before I started watching. Did Rousseau give birth to Alex on the island, or before? If it was on the island, it puts a lie to what Juliet said about the island's "no baby" policy, but is consistent with Juliet's "it happens at conception" statement in the flashback with Linus on the rocks. Maybe Juliet and Ethan were trying to figure out why Claire WASN'T dying, rather than stopping her FROM dying.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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At the end when they showed Juliet look away all tense like, I thought the camera was going to pan out and show the reason for the tenseness was because Sayid was staring her down, seemingly onto her.
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Originally posted by doublechinner: I have a question, reflecting my ignorance of the details revealed early in the show before I started watching. Did Rousseau give birth to Alex on the island, or before? She mentioned bringing her baby, so we're led to believe Alex wasn't born there.
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Hmm... I was thinking Rousseau was pregnant when she crashed on the island. I could be wrong, though.
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Women die during pregnancy? Bad news for Sun...
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Yeah Doc, there was a brief moment where Kate looked at Sun when Juliet told her and Jack about that. Jin doesn't know yet, does he?
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Hmm... I was thinking Rousseau was pregnant when she crashed on the island. I could be wrong, though. If she was born there, that would explain why the Others took Alex. She was an unusual birth.
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Yeah, I just looked it up on lostpedia. She was seven months pregnant when she crashed.
Ben was apparently born on the island as well, if he "lived there all his life". It may imply that the inability to have children is a recent thing.
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This was a GREAT episode, I thought. Right up there with the very best of the entire saga! I liked how they answered questions we forgot we even had.
(Now if they'd just solve the mystery of Adam and Eve in the pool by the caves...)
And how awesome was it that they referenced / Juliet actually went back to the caves from season 1???
White. A blank page or canvas. His favorite. So... many... possibilities.
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Great ep.
Perhaps if the having babies problem is a recent thing, it has to do with the 'incident' that the Dharma stuff always refers to (Cerebus going rogue, the original Hatch problem, etc.)?
Kippers, the writers have confirmed that they will play into Adam and Eve eventually, maybe even in the final season.
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I was kind of hoping Adam and Eve were connected to Nikki and Paulo. With all the time travel stuff. Something else else big's coming up for Sun in a few eps, CJ, two or three weeks I think. Hell of a mess she's in. If the baby's Jin's then she's dying, if it's not, then they're going to know it was conceived when Jin was infertile. Or at least, we're going to know. Kate was worrying about Sun, she should be worrying about herself. I'm totally against the idea that Kate's pregnant, but after that news, she ought to be thinking about the possibility. (Unless Sawyer's got a stash of condoms hidden somewhere, I think his sex life just took a downturn. Although the promo would indicate otherwise.)
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I think the traitor will turn out to be Kate. Remember, when she Jack and Swayer were captured -Jack was in the bunker, Swayer went into the bear cage and Kate got cleaned up and had a nice brunch with Ben on the beach. Next we see her go into the opposite cage.
I think Kate will be the big snake and that she is playing everyone.
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Actually, Kate as the uber-traitor would be interesting. It would also finally pay off the whole "she's dangerous/don't trust her" stuff from the Pilot.
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Some big answers, if you're looking between the lines...
I was right, I was right, Juliet's the snake! Or since this is Lost, A snake. My wife was pissed!
I don't think there's any question Sayid is on to her.
Some bigger picture stuff:
1. Juliet know, via the files demanded by Ben, everything WE know, if not more, as illustrated by her comments to Sawyer and Sayid. Talk about a viper in the nest! Will she be the machina through which all of the Losties secrets will be revealed to each other? That certainly was her function when she made sure Kate knew that Jack knew that Kate "knew" (in the Biblical sense) Sawyer. Could get a little spicy around here...
2. If, as Ben seemed to intimate, there is something on the island that could "cure cancer," what is it? Shouldn't it be the same thing that healed Locke's legs, and is NOT healing Ben? Is that thing connected to inability to have children? If so, no freaking wonder they wanted Juliet. So, I'm thinking about all of these Others shooting each other, and I start to wonder....are they really dead? In many cases, Others don't seem to have a problem getting shot or shooting others. How far do the healing powers of the island go?
3. Jack is a CHUMP. All the time. No wonder he fell for Kate, a con artist. He has not been shown in a single relationship with a woman in which he has not ended up as a CHUMP. Thai girl, wife, Juliet, Kate...Come to think of it, many male characters on the island are chumps--Sawyer over and over again, Locke to his daddy and undercover cops, etc. His only hope to NOT look like a complete idiot is for him to be in on it, and judging from Juliet's conversation with Ben, that isn't the case.
4. Ethan, although dead, is still creepy.
5. Juliet's lover is the guy killed by dead cop lady? But we don't see any reaction on Juliet's part...And she glossed over when Hurley mentioned Ethan (Hurley gettin' a little gangsta on us, with the implied threat to Juliet--last time one of you was around, we WHACKED him!)--what does she really think about the people she's around? Is Jack right about how bad she wants to get off the island? It's been set up that way. If it's true, then she's got to know that Ben still represents her best hope to get off the island, even though he's a duplicitous bastard.
The only consistent feature of all of your dissatisfying relationships is you.
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Kate? She's sure been through the wringer via the Others, so if so she's a better actress than I would have thought...
The only consistent feature of all of your dissatisfying relationships is you.
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well i guess i'm not going to get the inside INFO from my friend Marsha !!
this is the email i got from her today ........
[ No spoilers my friend! That would result in instant unemployment!!
Hope you're well.
Marshaxx ]
oh well !! just one more week till her 1st episode !!
Matthew.
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Juliet's not the snake. The snake won't be revealed until the season finale. We already know Juliet's up to something.
I don't think Kate's knowingly working with the Others. I doubt she'd go back for Jack if she was. I did have a theory that the guy Kate thought was her dad was working for Dharma and he let them do something to her that turned her into a killer. So she could be brainwashed or something.
The title of the finale is Through the Looking Glass, apparently. It's going to be a <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Jack</span></span> flashback.
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I'm SOOOOoooo jealous of you Matthew! It is SO cool that you know someone who is about to be in this excellent show! I just hope she ends up being a character we all like and not another Nikki/Paulo... or things could get uncomfortable around here. j/k I'm still loving Lost like nothing else on television but I wasn't as blown away by the latest episode as a lot of other people seem to have been. Juliet has totally rocketed up into being one of my favourite characters but unless I missed something I didn't really think the latest episode told us anything that new about her, or the island. Still a fun ep though, with some great lines and a killer ending! Now bring on some Charlie, writers! Can't believe he hasn't had a single flashback all season!
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His is coming up. The week before the finale, I think. There's some really interesting info from an interview with Yujin Kim (Sun) here. It's a real mind bender. It seems that she and Daniel Dae Kim were given different info about who the baby's father is. In the interview <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Kim says that in a way they were both told the right answer.</span></span>
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i hate juliette. i hope kate isnt through dishing out dislocated shoulders...unless that was a lie? see!!! i hate her!!!
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