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A new season! Comic book day has been a treat all summer with 52, but this is what makes my Hump Day.

A new season opens with a big reveal, one I'm sure everyone guessed, but never fully imagined. The opener focuses on the Big Three (Jack, Kate, Sawyer) and their initial imprisonment with The Others.

We get some background on Jack's divorce. He can be a bit obsessive, can't he... and self destructive.

Watching the credits, there's a couple of obvious omissions, and one not so surprising addition to the cast in the form of Henry Gale (not his real name) as an ongoing character.

A great first episode! As usual, I'm left wanting more.

Wish we'd seen more of the story moving along, and the rest of the cast, but we'll get to all that eventually.

What omissions, CJ? I didn't pay attention to that...

Well, the two actors missing in the credits had a send off last season.

So, I guess Walt didn't have anything to do with the polar bear's appearance way back when?

Wow...what a great season opener.

Didn't see any of that happening. I trust no new character or any of their motivation.

Totally great show!

Oh. Oh yeah

It was awesome!

I think it did a great job of establishing the notion that this season is about the Others, in the same way that last season's opener established that it was going to be about the Hatch, and giving just enough of a glimpse of them to whet our appetites.

The most interesting bit was "Let it go" coming through the supposedly dead speaker. I'd guess that's connected to the whispers in some way, which may have nothing to do with the Others at all, assuming that Juliet didn't actually know anything about the voice.

I'm curious about Rousseau's inability to find the Others as well, given that they apparently have a little suburb right in the middle of the island.

The opening scene where "Henry" (?) gives the orders to Ethan and whatshisface to go infiltrate the castaways--SO creepy to get that kind of flashback. Watching the clip show last week reminded me how much more we know about the day the plane crashed now than we did first season.

With all the messing about with our heroes' heads, suddenly we're veering much more closely to "Magus" territory. I'm not sure how much patience I'll have for prison drama. And haven't these people figured out yet that EVERYONE and EVERYTHING seems to have been put into place to f*** with them? If I were Sawyer or Jack et al, I'd have to start considering putting bullets into people just to upset their "game." They've got to realize at some point that they're rats in a maze. I would really like them to turn the tables on the Others by the end of this season. It would be immensely satisfying.

I hope we get to see what's going on with everyone else next week--I know Jack, Sawyer, and Kate are now the Lost Holy Trinity, but the other characters are more likable.

That was creepy with Henry 'Ben' whatever.
It was nice to see Ethan and Goodwin and that no character in Lost is ever truly dead.

So is Mr Smiley - Kate's handler- supposed to be gay now. He did tell Kate 'Your not my type.' That's a gay line right there.

It seems 'Othersville' is a 'The Prisoner' type place.

We do get alot of answers of the stations, and where the bear and the shark came from. And we are right about the 3 facations on the island.

The Losties, the others and Dharama.

Can't wait for next week!

You know... it might explain the whole "Deliverance costumes" thing as well.

Damn...forgot to record it!!!

But rtvu2 is right...Henry/Ben/whoever is mega-creepy! It's those eyes! Brrr!

You can watch the episode on abc.com! That's what I did!

The actor played a serial killer on "The Practice" a few years back (same network oddly enough.) I just keep flashing back to his breakfast with Jack and Locke last season.

Man, Sawyer is just the perennial whipping-dog isn't he? The writers seem to like heaping the indignities upon him (though it does make for funny moments).

And what the heck happened to Kate?? She was definitely rattled - perhaps even traumatized by the time she got to her cage.

And y'know, as much as Jack blames himself for his dad falling off the wagon, his ex could've spared everyone a lot of grief if she'd just *told Jack the guy's name!!*

Yes, but that misses the point that it wasn't Jack's business. He strikes me (I just started watching the series) as someone who needs to be in control, and it bugs him to the point of violence when he's not. Perhaps this is why his marriage failed to begin with.

I get the feeling that Jack is going to be put through the ringer in this season in much the same way as Locke was last season. If you consider where he's at, he basically just knowingly led his friends into a trap with a plan that seems to have completely failed. It's kind of natural that he'd be remembering his marriage, which he considers one of his great failures, at this point.

I think that Sarah seriously misunderstands Jack, seeing only his obsessive need to be fixing something (and realizing that he neglected her once she no longer needs fixing), but seems to miss the underlying fact that this need is based upon this feeling that no matter what he does, he's never going to feel like he's good enough.

Thanks for the tip, EDE--I just watched the ep on ABC.com!

Pretty groovy, huh? I've missed a lot of "Lost", so I'm far from an expert. So what did happen with Ethan and the "other guy"?

i watched it on abc.com too! (not so into Lost after season 2) going to do that for battlestar galactica in a couple of days. tried to catch episode 2 of heroes on the internet but the connection was wonky.

I dunno -- if my wife were cheating on me, I'd say the guy she's cheating with becomes my business. The second the divorce is final, whomever she dates will no longer be my business. But that's my point of view...

It'll be interesting if Jack's "breakthrough" at the end will actually lead to a change. Could one of them end up joining the Others of their own free will? Is that even what they want?

LARDY--

Long story short, Ethan and the other guy (can't remember his name at the moment) mingled with the survivors of the plane crash (as the fuselage and tail wound up on different parts of the island). They gathered intel on the castaways and reported it back to Ben and "the Others". Ethan kidnapped Claire because the Others thought the baby she was about to have was special. Both were eventually revealed as being outsiders and they were both killed.

I've been thinking a lot about how Jack was flipping out about the Others (as opposed to his flipping out about his wife, which is something else entirely), and then I suddenly recalled what Jack might be thinking of:

- the killed one of the survivors early on
- they hung Charlie from a tree and left him to die
- they kidnapped a pregnant girl (Claire)
- they kidnapped a young boy (Walt)
- they blackmailed one of the most reliable survivors into betraying them and killing two of their own
- and thus are responsible for two more deaths (Ana Lucia and Libby)
- they generally have screwed with them from the beginning

It reminded me of Said's speech to Charlie in Season two explaining why he was willing to torture Henry Gale/Ben. With all that in context, I'd pretty much be ready to kill all the Others too at this point. Its easy to forget that sometimes when I'm watching the show thinking "try and get some answers Jack!"

And it looks like we'll see Sun, Jin and Said next episode, but I'm really dying to see Locke and Eko!

They won't be back until the third episode, I'm afraid. The second episode was supposed to be Locke-centric, but someone changed the order at the last minute.

I loved this episode, even though I can't watch it again because I screwed up the recording time. (On dial-up I can't watch it on ABC.com, either. )

I'm most worried about Kate. Something else else had to happen to scrape her wrists up like that. (I heard someplace that they had to cut 20 minutes out of the ep, so who knows what we've missed.) Some people are saying that the needle mark on her arm looks infected and are wondering if she has, or if the Others are telling her she has, the "sickness" the french lady's always talking about. The Others burned her clothes, too. They didn't do that to Jack and Sawyer.

I really enjoyed the interaction between Jack and Juliet this ep. He finally seems to have chemistry with a lady. Third time's a charm, I guess. I liked him a lot more in this episode, too. I think it's because I finally feel that the writers are willing to take risks with his character.

I hadn't really thought about it, but you're right. I think it might be the fact that between Kate, his ex-wife and Ana this is the first time Jack is actually vulnerable - where he's not so in charge. It allows for more back and forth and and actual effort to relate where before Jack never had to be a little powerless (or they're just breaking him down -- it's a fine line...)

Just saw the new ep. Wow. Sun. Wow. It's still sinking in. And it looks like the love triangle is going the way of the dodo at last.

All right, so is there anybody left in this show who hasn't killed somebody? At the moment I can only think of Locke, Claire, Rose and Bernard. And maybe Jin. Wait, what about Charlie? Has he killed anybody?