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Crash - has anyone seen it? Was it any good? Will anyone ever remember it? Another weird year for the Oscars.
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I've heard it was excellent but I haven't seen it.
Jon Stewart was great, glad to see Reese get one (wish Jocquain did too!), and yeah...another weird year for the Oscars...
(Oh yeah, alright George Clooney!)
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Crash was amazing. I saw it. I was floored. It was kind of like Traffic but about racism and just... really good. I remember it, at least, because the acting was good, and I felt like it was really true to the medium. Painfully so, even. It has a wonderful combination of irony, humor, drama and the threads came together awesomely.
I'm not surprised it won. It was definitely one of my favorite movies of the year.
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CRASH won!!! YES!!!!
A most phenominal picture... wow!
There is some justice in the universe after all.
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But...but... but.... it was supposed to be OUR year. 
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Crash happened to be the only nominated movie I saw this year. The moment I finished it I said aloud that it had to be one of the best movies I've ever seen. There was so much said and unsaid by those characters. -Definitely thought provoking and left me with images and words that resonated with such bitter truth. This was not just some "LA race- related" movie; it was compelling storytelling that introduced you to characters that you could love and hate and love and hate at the same time....And it was by a CANADIAN!
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I did like the fact that Thandie Newton was being interviewd this morning on the BBC and she said she was actually pleased that no-one from the film won an acting gong because it wasn't about the individual performances, it was about everyone as whole and I think she's right on that point. Everyone in it was great and even though a few of them had larger roles it would be very hard to say which one was the lead actor/actress and who were the supporting roles. urprised ti won, but quite pleased too.
And it was a bit of a wierd year. Not a bad one compared to previous years but usually you have at least one film that does much better than others and that simply isn't the case this year.
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Can't comment on whether it was any better than any of the other films, but it was FANTASTIC.
So I'm glad to see it win. (Just so happens it was co-written and directed by a bloke whose last name is HAGGIS!)
Also glad to see Ang Lee win, so that it can't be said BBM was shunned because of what it's about. In fact, having checked, it actually came away with 3 Oscars - equal with King Kong and Memoirs Of A Geisha.
Also glad to see Clooney win - just 'cos I think he's great.
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Yeah, BBM did pretty well for itself-- Best Director is a *real* Oscar, unlike the other 2 nonsense-Oscars it won (musical score & best adapted screenplay-thingie).
re: CRASH, haven't seen it, but I *loved* that "In The Deep" song that girl performed.
And you're telling me the stodgy Academy members voted for Three Six Mafia over that beatuiful song or Dolly Parton? Yeah, mmmhmmm.
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Yup, Dolly woz robbed. Really didn't understand that particular award since even if Dolly didn't win then anything would have been better than the one that did. Ugh. Academy voters being 'down with the street' or something equally nonsense probably.
The musical score for BBM is beautiful though. Well worth getting the album if you've not already got it, if only for a couple of new songs by great recording artists and the new version of King Of The Road.
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Originally posted by Semi Transparent Fellow: But...but... but.... it was supposed to be OUR year. Aw...but there was much love for BBM though this year! In fact, much love for all of those great nominated movies... And when Rachel Weisz won Semi, I thought of you (I know you like her  ). I think BBM has now shot Heath Ledger up from (what I considered) post-teen dramas (movies actors get when they decide they don't want to be in teen dramas anymore) to *real actor* status. I'm still thinking about Reese's acceptance speech today...I really like her. Great actress, great acceptance speech!
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I think I must not be a very Academy Award minded movie goer. I watched Capote and Good Night Good Luck recently, and didn't like either of them. I found them very slow and tedious.
As for that guy that won Best Actor... well, I guess he did a good Capote impersonation, but I wasn't particularly wowed by his performance.
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I was personally mystified by the choice for best movie, Spellbinder - "Brokeback Mountain" or "Transamerica" seemed to be shoo-ins regarding the performances in those movies 
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Originally posted by MLLASH: Yeah, BBM did pretty well for itself-- Best Director is a *real* Oscar, unlike the other 2 nonsense-Oscars it won (musical score & best adapted screenplay-thingie).
And you're telling me the stodgy Academy members voted for Three Six Mafia over that beatuiful song or Dolly Parton? Yeah, mmmhmmm. I wouldn't call a screenplay Oscar "nonsense". It's a cliche now, but without a decent script you're not going to have a decent film. And yes, having unfailingly chosen the most hideous, overblown ballads for years now, the Academy has decided it needs to be more contemporary in its Best Song awards.
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I found neither IN THE DEEP nor Dolly's song hideous or overblown, but I *can* say that about resident Memphians 3 6 Mafia's song. So the Academy's streak continues.
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Aside from having no clue who Jon Stewart was, this year's Oscar was an improvement from when Chris Rock hosted it... 
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Crash was an excellent movie, to answer the original question here.
I actually didn't see many of the nominated films, myself, so I wasn't really hoping for anyone in particular to win anything. Then, when Reese won, and she gave the most sophisticated acceptance speech EVER, I was glad she won.
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LAM, Jon Stewart hosts "The Daily Show,": a wonderful spoof news show that pokes fun at just about anything making healines.
He started out as a stand-up comic, and has made a bunch of minor film appearances as well. The only one I can think of off hand is the real daddy in Adam Sandler's "Big Daddy."
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I have a feeling that this year is going to be remembered by most people around the world as the year Brokeback Mountain lost, not the year that Crash won.
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perhaps... but I would add as more of an underdog-upsets-favorite sort of way.
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brokeback was robbed. robbed i say.
funny thing is i know somebody who is a screenwriter and she predicted crash would win because brokeback "peaked" and crash was an "actor's movie".
whatever that means.
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I officially hate Crash and will never watch it. Now before you accuse me of homecentric sour grapes, I must tell you that every best picture that I thought I would hate but forced myself to watch -- I did in fact hate, sometimes with unbridled passion. I detested Out of Africa; I was almost driven to commit mayhem upon viewing the abysmal Shakespeare in Love; the English Patient was unwatchable ... the list goes on. I know I will hate Crash and I will not subject myself to losing an irretrievable hour or two of my life.  Plus I do think Hollywood, for all it's liberal values, cannot accept a tale about two good looking masculine gay men. That's too threatening. They can easily accept comedic stereotypes or freakish gay men like Truman Capote, but average guys, that could pass for heterosexuals -- no way. And I really do believe this. Homophobia runs deep, even in liberal Hollywood.
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i also have a confession. i watched about 20 min of crash on a plane one time.... and i couldnt watch anymore of it. (feel free to throw stones.)
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Originally posted by Semi Transparent Fellow: I officially hate Crash and will never watch it. Now before you accuse me of homecentric sour grapes, I must tell you that every best picture that I thought I would hate but forced myself to watch -- I did in fact hate, sometimes with unbridled passion. I detested Out of Africa; I was almost driven to commit mayhem upon viewing the abysmal Shakespeare in Love; the English Patient was unwatchable ... the list goes on. I know I will hate Crash and I will not subject myself to losing an irretrievable hour or two of my life. Plus I do think Hollywood, for all it's liberal values, cannot accept a tale about two good looking masculine gay men. That's too threatening. They can easily accept comedic stereotypes or freakish gay men like Truman Capote, but average guys, that could pass for heterosexuals -- no way. And I really do believe this. Homophobia runs deep, even in liberal Hollywood. Somebody needs a hug!
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Originally posted by disaster boy: i also have a confession. i watched about 20 min of crash on a plane one time....
and i couldnt watch anymore of it.
(feel free to throw stones.) I'm not gonna throw stones. You're the first person that I've heard of who hasn't liked Crash. But I've heard of a number of people who walked out of BBM, and none of whom consider themselves to be homophobic / anti-gay (let's be honest, they wouldn't have gone in to see it if they had been). I can't compare the two, 'cos I haven't seen BBM, but when I saw Crash I hoped it would win the Best Picture Oscar. i just wish I'd put some money on it ..... Semi - just 'cos the film you wanted to win didn't it doesn't make Crash a bad film - and you know that if you go in to watch a film knowing that you're going to hate it, it kind of turns it into a self-fulfilling prophecy. So there's no point. It's your life - I don't blame you for not wanting to waste it. Remember - sometimes not everyone agrees with YOUR agenda.
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