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Actually, I shudder at them. Groovy US Budget Spending Diagram $399 billion on military spending in 2004 versus $383 billion on non-military spending? Do you all live in old tanks and missile silos in America?
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From the Office of Management & Budget, Mid-Session Review for Fiscal 2006. Budget Document Excerpted from table S-2 Discretionary Totals, Page 24 Projected Spending Billions of Dollars 2006 Depat. of Defense 419 Homeland Security 32 AllOther Spending 388 2007 Depat. of Defense 443 Homeland Security 34 AllOther Spending 388 2008 Depat. of Defense 462 Homeland Security 35 AllOther Spending 388 2009 Depat. of Defense 489 Homeland Security 37 AllOther Spending 388 2010 Depat. of Defense 492 Homeland Security 39 AllOther Spending 388
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It works out to about $1500-$1700 a taxpayer (on average) to support the military. While I would like to see more of my taxes going to programs I care more about, I don't think $1500 a year (on average) is too much to spend on the military.
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I wonder how much Guam, the second greatest country in the world, spends on their military? Guam!
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It's important to note that this doesn't include mandatory spending such as Social Security and Medicare, which I'm fairly certain totals more than half the total budget on its own. It doesn't seem to me that weird at all that a country would spend 25% to 33% of its total budget on defense and security. That seems to me a fairly major function of government. I'd like there to be more funds for other stuff as well (education and housing, for example), but the solution to that seems to be raise the total budget rather than re-allocating it.
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And Cobie, Guam isn't an independent country.
Australia, however, according to my quick calculation, spends about $900 to $1000 per person on its military.
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Originally posted by Kid Prime: It works out to about $1500-$1700 a taxpayer (on average) to support the military. While I would like to see more of my taxes going to programs I care more about, I don't think $1500 a year (on average) is too much to spend on the military. True, but there seems a lot of emphasis on 'pet projects' and advanced weapons systems with limited value and not on the troops and the operating budget itself. There's a supplemental funding measure outside of this in 2006 for additional costs of operating an army in the field. Smart budgeting would have anticipated this and put enough money into a contingency over the past 10 years or so. Also those figures are not constant dollars, Ie non-defense discretionary funding is going to shrink by 8-10% in the next 4 years while DoD will increase by 8-10% after taking account inflation. So the question is 'bang for the buck' within the defense budget and also what programs must have been foregone elsewhere, just like my comic book budget come to think of it.
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The "pet projects" problem plagues every aspect of the budget, though, and isn't really affected by defense versus non-defense spending.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: And Cobie, Guam isn't an independent country.. *choke* Do they need a youthful freedom fighter?
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Maybe. But I should warn the country that occupies them spent $399 billion on military spending in 2004.
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The truly odd numbers are the ones that show that the US spends more on their military than every other single country in the world.
These numbers turn my stomach. How I long for those heady 90's days of shrinking military budgets and closing bases. And what kind of conflict is tailor-made for the continuing success of the military-industrial complex? A nebulous, never-ending, never-victorious War Against Terror. We need more disposable million-dollar cruise missiles...t
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: And Cobie, Guam isn't an independent country.
Australia, however, according to my quick calculation, spends about $900 to $1000 per person on its military. Just in case, I don't think Australia's record of wasting money on stupid military crap that doesn't work properly anyway is that grand. I just couldn't find as spiffy a chart.
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