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A stranded Legionnaire's cry for help
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This has nothing to do with the LSH itself but once you've read it, I think you'll understand why I remembered to ask for help in this board.
I am a literary translator and for the first time in many moons I'm stumped; the book I'm currently translating features the following sentence:

'He called me Miss Fever, Miss Open Flame, Miss Hundred and Ten in the Shade and once Miss Bases Loaded Tying Run No Outs '.

(Vapid as this prose is, it has evoked thoughts of a Legion female reject or villain in my tired head, ergo the idea of asking for help here)
Now, the first three names are easy enough to translate. The fourth isn't as it mixes the authors rather inane recurring metaphor with America's favorite pastime, a subject I'm decidedly not into (sorry, but I find it most boring). I get it's general sense but I wonder if somebody is willing to give me a periphrastic interpretation of this. Thank you beforehand.


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Okay, to score you have to cross home plate. Guys like to "score" with women. Bases loaded means just about anything but a bunt in front of the plate or an infield fly, or a strike out means a run scores, unless it is the third out. With no outs, only a phenomenally great pitching effort will prevent a score. He's calling her easy.


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#524957 09/22/08 06:45 PM
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Really, rick? I had the almost opposite interpretation, likely flavored by the previous three names.

"Fever," "Open Flame," "Hundred and ten in the shade," all have the hint of danger about them. They suggest a sort of noir-ish femme fatale vibe to me.

The baseball terms suggest to me the irony that, although it looks like a perfect situation, she is in a position to ruin it all. One wrong move on her part and it's "Triple Play," "Game Over".

I don't know, more context might help but, whatever the author's intent, it is a very poor metaphor.

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#524958 09/23/08 02:10 PM
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Thank you both, to start with. The variety of interpretation possibilities always makes me smile. Between Rick's "easy" and Ex's "able to ruin it", there's my "she's sizzling but [fill the blank]"
I'll come up with more context later (I'm already past that chapter) but I thought that a sort of decomposition (as in "Bases loaded" / "tying run no outs") of the baseball terms could help me in this endeavour.
I think that "bases loaded" is the most complicate part, as I'm not really sure of what it means (sorry Rick, I didn't really understand your explanation, even if I know that the game has three bases and a home plate as well as that there is sexual innuendo attached to each of them). I infer that, strictly in baseball terms, it means runners in each base, which is an ideal situation to "score". Am I right?
Regarding "tying run no outs", isn't it something like "ineluctable last possibility to tie the game?"
I'm still stumped.


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#524959 09/23/08 02:30 PM
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Like I'm some baseball expert :rolleyes: , but "bases loaded" means a player on each base, so the guy who's next up to bat, if he screws up and strikes out, nobody gets to advance to home plate and score a point. If he hits successfully, at least the guy on third base gets to score, and, if he really hits it right, everybody (including himself) get to complete all the bases i.e 4 points.

Tying run I guess means that the game is tied (or will be tied?) once he bats successfully.

No outs is probably two outs already (of three), so if he blows it (if he's the third out), the other team gets to bat.

To sum up, a very high pressure situation. I'd say more danger than easy, but you certainly get the easy sense in the background.

Anyone confirm or correct my baseball knowledge? Gosh, you'd think I'd know more after all these years of half watching or listening to Mr. Cramer's infernal Red Sox. wink


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#524960 09/23/08 04:27 PM
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"score a POINT?"

sigh

Canadians, particularly cookie bakers that can see Greenland from their porches: stick to snow shoe races. wink

LoL

Okay, we know she's definitely hot, hot, hot.

"Miss Bases Loaded Tying Run No Outs:" she's either the batter or the pitcher.

If she's the pitcher and we're to presume the tying run is on third with no outs (need three to end the inning safely), then she's being called a cool customer, unshakable.

If she's the batter and was called "Miss Bases Loaded Tying Run Two Outs," then he's saying she's reliable or on a hitting streak, another way of saying she's "hot."

It's the "no outs" that's baffling. If there are no outs, it's certainly not the most difficult position, there are three opportunites to clear the bases but it's not a sure thing either.

Could just possibly be that the author missed with the analogy and it actually is nonsense. I'm thinking that is most probable.

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As I see it, with "no outs" the guy is saying it's almost impossible NOT to score. Even a walk gets someone to home plate.
Not only that but if things fall out the right way everybody gets to score.

Sounds icky. Is this guy s frat boy?

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#524962 09/23/08 04:52 PM
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ah, so she's actually "Miss Bases Loaded Tying Run On Third No Outs."

Yep, Kent and YK're right: easy score. She's hot and easy. Nice combo when you can find it.

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Thank you both, to start with. The variety of interpretation possibilities always makes me smile. Between Rick's "easy" and Ex's "able to ruin it", there's my "she's sizzling but [fill the blank]"
I'll come up with more context later (I'm already past that chapter) but I thought that a sort of decomposition (as in "Bases loaded" / "tying run no outs") of the baseball terms could help me in this endeavour.
I think that "bases loaded" is the most complicate part, as I'm not really sure of what it means (sorry Rick, I didn't really understand your explanation, even if I know that the game has three bases and a home plate as well as that there is sexual innuendo attached to each of them). I infer that, strictly in baseball terms, it means runners in each base, which is an ideal situation to "score". Am I right?
Regarding "tying run no outs", isn't it something like "ineluctable last possibility to tie the game?"
I'm still stumped.
"tying run with bases loaded" means that the team batting (aka the team that can score points at this time) is 4 runs/points less then the other team. Thus the guy batting, if he scores (rounding the bases and gets back to home) would tie the score. This can happen at any time in the game and multiple times. Also if one team is ahead by 2, then the tying run would be whoever batted after one man got one base. "No outs" refers to the fact that each team gets to bat (which gets them points if the batter gets back to home plate) until they get 3 outs. Having no outs while having the bases loaded is an ideal situation. Any player on a base when their team gets the third out do not get to score.

There are also sexual metaphors for the scoring in baseball. Per Wikipedia they are as follows:
First base is commonly understood to be French kissing, but can also mean any mouth-to-mouth kissing, or to an established romantic relationship in general.[4][5]
Second base usually refers to fondling or groping, especially of the breasts, and sexual stimulation of the genitals from outside of the clothing.
Third base means fingering or giving a handjob or giving or receiving oral sex. Can refer to being in the nude as well.
Fourth base, Scoring a Run, Hitting a Home Run (or "scoring", "going all the way", "coming home", "beyond bases" etc.) is sexual intercourse.[4][5][6][7]


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In the context, I figured "no outs" meant he couldn't risk another out. It is a bit messy for a metaphor. I wonder if, in non-baseball oriented countries, there are sexual innuendos based on other sports, like soccer.

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Canadians, particularly cookie bakers that can see Greenland from their porches: stick to snow shoe races.
Silly Yanks! Snowshoe races don't start for another two months! tongue


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[b]Canadians, particularly cookie bakers that can see Greenland from their porches: stick to snow shoe races.
Silly Yanks! Snowshoe races don't start for another two months! tongue [/b]
Late start for the season, eh?

Must be global warming.


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I'm getting old. I didn't know what "motorboating" meant until just a couple of weeks ago. Heck, I'm still not sure I know what it means.

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YK,

Just don't let them talk you in to trying waterboarding.


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As I see it, with "no outs" the guy is saying it's almost impossible NOT to score. Even a walk gets someone to home plate.
Not only that but if things fall out the right way everybody gets to score.
'Bases loaded' definitely gave me the 'multiple partners at one time' vibe.

Or maybe I just got that vibe all on my own...


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Hey, Cobie's back. Maybe we can get the <strike>local horndog's</strike> happily married man's definitive opinion on this one.

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Hitting a Home Run ... is sexual intercourse.
What!!!

I hit a home run and all I got was a pat on the ass from some old coach.

I'm pissed.

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Originally posted by Yellow Kid:
As I see it, with "no outs" the guy is saying it's almost impossible NOT to score. Even a walk gets someone to home plate.
Not only that but if things fall out the right way everybody gets to score.
'Bases loaded' definitely gave me the 'multiple partners at one time' vibe.

Or maybe I just got that vibe all on my own...
I feel the same. Thank you all for all your input and feel free to add to it.


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Ok, this is me, back with a vengeance, for the same reasons. Thank yous aplenty beforehand to whoever is willing to give me a hand with this.

The author of the week is Joyce, namely, his 'Ulysses'. (I know, fairly mondo-big stuff). Whoever has read the book is bound to remember Jimmy's smile description of Bloom's drawers' contents. Both are hard but the second drawer has been killing me with it's insurance policies mumbo speak; here are the texts that I need help with:

A)

"an endowment assurance policy of 500 pounds in the Scottish Widows’ Assurance Society, intestated Millicent (Milly) Bloom, coming into force at 25 years as with profit policy of 430 pounds, 462/10/0 and 500 pounds at 60 years or death, 65 years or death and death, respectively, or with profit policy (paidup) of 299/10/0 together with cash payment of 133/10/0, at option"


Right. It starts getting blurry with 'coming into force at 25 years as with profit policy...'.

1-Does "coming into force" mean "payable" or "valid" after 25 years?
2-What about "as with profit policy"? Does it mean something "Under the form of", maybe?
3-And what does "or with profit policy (paidup)" bloody means?

B)

"certificate of possession of 900 pounds, Canadian 4 percent (inscribed) government stock (free of stamp duty)"

1- The "Canadian" appplies to the government stock (not to the currency) right? Maybe to both?

2- I gather that the 4% are the interest rate of the investment (and maybe I'm wrong). But what does "(inscribed)" mean? Is that percentage is written on the stock itself?

C) Last doubt, I swear wink :

"a bazaar ticket, no 2004, of S. Kevin’s Charity Fair, price 6d"?

1- What in Tartarus does the tiny 'd' stands for? How much is this price, fully written?

Thank you all (and long live him, a truly literary giant).


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