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#518186 11/01/06 12:55 PM
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Just read the latest Outsiders. Not only is the team been outed as alive and kicking by the outside world, but it turns out Thunder and Grace are officially out to the readers. Was their romantic involvement obvious or made apparent to us before this issue?

This team can really boast diversity: one black female, one Japanese female, one Asian female (or is she?) and a lesbian couple. I'm beginning to see this team being named as such for the number of reasons that they may be seen as outside the mainstream. Given this rationale, as much as I enjoy Nightwing, I don't see him a suitable choice for team leader. Is he an Outsider because he can't find himself a place within the Titans or JLA?

#518187 11/01/06 01:15 PM
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Well, with Judd writing it, it was only a matter of time before someone came out smile


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#518188 11/01/06 03:22 PM
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I think Dick and Roy should have come out and stop hiding their love for each other. wink


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#518189 11/01/06 05:25 PM
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yeah! XD

DC has a number of lesbian characters, but too few gay male superheroes(there's Obsidian,and....uh...anyone else? XD )

#518190 11/02/06 01:58 AM
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Katana's new haircut is kinda butch...

#518191 11/02/06 11:31 AM
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Eh, I'm over the whole gay thing. 'Binder's right- if Winnick's writing, someone will be gay. It's almost cliched now, like it's there to make a book hip.


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#518192 11/02/06 11:55 AM
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On the one hand, I applaude Judd's attempt to introduce gay characters into the DCU, but on the other hand, I wish that he would approach it from a different angle. He can never seem to be content with just having gay characters. He has to go all socially conscious about it. Inevitably, there will either be a bashing, or an HIV scare, or some sort of discrimination about it.

I much prefer the approach they take in Young Avengers. They have two gay characters, but sexuality never becomes an issue. They're gay, but really nobody cares. It's just part of who they are, and there's no attempt to show all the bad things that can come with being gay.

I'm much happier showing gay characters as just being like everyone else, doing "normal" things that everyone else does, without all the baggage that might be associated with it. To me, that teaches a much better lesson of tolerance.


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#518193 11/02/06 04:24 PM
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Judd Winnick is the 'pinko-liberal' version of Frank Miller laugh

I fully expect the 'Capt Boomerang was locked in a refridgerator issue' any month now! Jeepers Punky Brewster!

#518194 11/10/06 01:32 PM
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You know guys... I am thinking the same thing. Winnick has to make a gay character on everything he writes it seems. I haven't been reading Outsiders all that much (once 52 started I lost interest in it), but it seems odd that Grace and Thunder would be gay. Didn't Grace and Roy hit the sack before? I also have to agree with Spellbinder, that he makes his gay characters the "victims" to often.


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