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I just found out from Sterling Gates how his Supergirl run would've brought back Linda Danvers.
First off, Flamebird and Nightwing from the New Krypton debacle were gonna be Linda and Conner Kent before they were switched with Thara Ak-Var and Chris Kent.
Second, you guys remember the annual with Kara and the Legion where she saw the museum display about her dying? Well that was going to happen, but it wasn't the end of Kara's story. She would've been trapped in Hell thanks to Lord Satanus. Meanwhile, Lana Lang and the soul of Alura Zor-El were gonna try and rescue Kara, but to do that they needed Linda's help to get into Hell.
Gates says he's not sure if Linda would've mentioned her meeting with the original Kara.
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Those could have been great stories. Thanks for sharing, Sarky. And thanks for trying, Mr. Gates.
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Great article. Fascinating read. Really makes me want to go back and read that run. I appreciated your comments on sacrifice as well. Good job.
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Excellent article, Jude! PAD's Supergirl is very much worth revisiting and should be kept alive as much as possible by we, its avid fans. Such a powerful, transcendent work in the guise of a mainstream superhero comic.
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Linda and Mae have always deserved far better than they've received.
Y'know a couple of years ago at Flame Con I asked Steve Orlando if Jeremiah and Eliza Danvers were related to Fred and Sylvia, on the off chance they could've been relatives in the vain hope Linda might receive a throwaway mention. Unfortunately no, the current Danverses were supposed to be new versions of Fred and Sylvia. All things considered I don't hold it against Orlando since I know how hard DC's editorial tries to act like Mae, Linda, and Cir-El are gone forever.
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Beautifully done, Sarky. PAD is generalized so much as a "Marvel Creator," and DC has been so remiss in giving his work for them its due, that I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people aren't even aware he wrote lots of good stuff for DC in the late 90s/early 00s.
One of my personal favorite guest stars during this run is Mary Marvel, in the arc right before "Many Happy Returns." I love the sour-sweet banter between Linda and Mary.
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Despite everything I knew Peter David from his DC stuff first (Supergirl and Young Justice and Aquaman) and his Marvel stuff second. I've only read a handful of Captain Marvel issues and that two-parter Avengers AU story with Scarlet Witch's kids and the Hulk ripping Tigra in half
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Oh, my goodness! Well, I think a considerable portion of his Hulk run is absolutely essential, issues 331 to 426. His second run on X-Factor, from its beginning in 2005 to its very end in 2011, is also highly recommended.
And it goes without saying I hope you do essays on his Young Justice and Aquaman runs. Maybe you could also do Justice League Task Force 7-8, which was way ahead of its time in its gender-playfulness.
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Peter David liked my article. He said it was very impressive and comprehensive.
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Peter David liked my article. He said it was very impressive and comprehensive. Wow! That's great. Getting a positive response from the writer is very telling of the quality of you article.
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Peter David liked my article. He said it was very impressive and comprehensive. YAY
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I am not sure whether or not this is worth it's own thread, so I decided to post it here for now. Bendis has said he is leaving Superman. He didn't give an exact date but I guess it will be relatively soon: https://www.supermanhomepage.com/brian-michael-bendis-announces-hes-leaving-superman/If he leaves Superman, does that mean he would leave Legion too as the two titles are historically intertwined? If that is the case, I wonder if the current version of the Legion would continue or moved to some alternative Earth like the Reboot/Threeboot/and portions of the Retroboot?
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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My guess is that the current version of the Legion won't survive Bendis's departure.
I don't think his leaving Superman necessarily means he's leaving the Legion any time soon, however.
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I have mixed feelings about this. Bendis run on Superman has been interesting. There have been things he has done that I do not like and yet other times when I though he really got the character and understood what made him tick. How long has he been on? Two years about? It feels too soon to me. Then again when Byrne did his massive shake-up of Superman he only lasted about the same length of time and the team carrying on after he left did some wonderful things with the plot points he started. I am still uncertain with Bendis writing Superman revealing his identity and that in particular I would like to see him stay on to dive in to the consequences.
As for Legion I really really hope he doesn't leave that title yet. Feels like he has just gotten started. We are only 6 issues in (plus the appearances in Superman) and Bendis slow pacing means we haven't even completed one arc yet. I want to see where he plans for the story to go.
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Bendis is leaving the Superman titles in December per the solicits. Unlike some other fans, I don't feel like this is a victory. If the Legion title ultimately fails, it will fail due to cuts like a lot of the other cancelled titles. There is nothing good that can come of the Legion being cancelled so early in the run. I think DC would just put it in the 20th century like they do in the Supergirl TV show.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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I honestly don't care what that man does or did or would've done with Superman or Action Comics, I just wish the quality of the Legion series would improve.
God I hope someone like Mags Visaggio or Marguerite Bennett takes over.
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I don't really know enough about young comic writers to know who would be a good choice, but I'd really love to see more from the creative team on the not-really-a-Legion-story from the DC Cybernetic Special.
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Oh hell yeah Nik Virella's the best, she's done a number of sketch card commissions for me and she's amazing
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Bleeding Cool has been speculating that Mark Waid may succeed Bendis.
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Interesting. Given the close connections between the current Superman run and the current Legion run, maybe MW will get the chance to leave an impact on yet another version of the Legion.
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Well, Waid was promised the Superman job, his professed dream job, years ago, but apparently Paul Levitz and Dan Didio nixed it. Waid also had bad blood with Bob Harras. Waid swore off DC, and now, all of those people are gone from the company. So in December, Waid is suddenly back in the solicitations, co-writing one of the many specials that month. That same month, Bendis ends his Superman run. Next month....?
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