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Ditto.

I'm not totally into PAD's run here yet but will give it a chance. I definately thought PAD's second run on Hulk was pretty weak (one of his weakest series of stories in the last ten years, despite the great Scorpion HoM crossover). But he's a writer who picks up speed as he goes.

But losing the entire supporting cast hurt a lot. Supporting casts mean quite a lot to this fan, and I don't like to see so many dumped so quickly.

Two things going on with that:

One, he wanted to use a new situation, rather than risk being seen as "Slott-lite", and because pretty much her whole cast was tied to her job...

Two, he apparently didn't know how Slott's run was going to end, as he wrote #22-23 before Slott wrote #20-21.

Oh. I never thought of that (the second thing) and it makes sense. Hopefully we'll see them later on. I trust PAD enough to stick with the series for the duration (unless some drastic reason suggests otherwise).

I never thought of that either, and it brings a new perspective on why # 22-23 was such a disappointment. I may browse through the next few issues at the store, and see if there's any improvement.

Re: PAD's second Hulk run, what ended up as his first arc was originally supposed to be a mini-series that would clear up the mess that other writers had made of Hulk continuity; placed within the frame of the ongoing book, it's admittedly jarring; and except for a few moments like the Fin Fang Foom sequence, it doesn't compare well to PAD's better arcs from his first Hulk run. Then there was that murky done-in-one ghost story (likely an inventory issue) that's better ignored. Which brings us to the HoM tie-in arc, which was surprisingly good and had an ending which could be seen as a set-up for a new direction that PAD would have taken if he hadn't left the book. With the HoM arc taking over almost half of this brief run, I'd say that overall, the glass was half full.

Of course no hard feelings. I can certainly see why Slott's GLA/X/I and She-Hulk style of writing wouldn't please everyone (he had a certain "in your FACE, fanboy!!" quality that could ruffle feathers) though I myself love it. I believe in A:tI he shows that he can handle the current Marvel style of writing very well, though.

PAD's She-Hulk continues to be "okay" with me, though not nearly as fun (or good) as Slott's.

Still having a hard time enjoying PAD's run so far. I usually love PAD's work 80% of the time, but there are occassions where I just don't like what he's doing at al (his entire second half of Supergirl was very 'meh' to me). I may drop She-Hulk from my pull list...

#34 sees the beginning of a new story arc featuring the Lady Liberators, who debuted this month in HULK #7.

That issue was nothing to write home about, but this one had entertaining character interaction galore.

The plot concerns one of those get-involved-in-real-world-situations that super-heroes fling themselves into periodically, to show the readers their heroic consciences, I suppose. This particular one concerns earthquake-deprived citizens of a despot (tyrannical, but fun!) controlled country.

That's neither here nor there, as the reason to pick up this issue is for the dialogue and chemistry between She-Hulk, Thundra, Invisible Woman and Valkyrie.

All but IW appeared in the HULK issue, with no explanation given to Val's presence and corollary abscence from Asgard. Presumably, she's been 'reawakened' like 99% of the Asgardians and has either yet to return to the city hovering over Oklahoma, or has left it once more. It's clearly Brunhilde, though, and not Samantha Parrington.

No explanation given for Aragorn, either, yet he's there as well.

Anyway, if the image of Valkyrie knocking back cheap beer (which she first calls mead, and then swill) while balancing on the back legs of a chair in the kitchen of a trailer in a trailer park amuses you, then you want to give this issue a look.

She-Hulk conjoles Val and Thundra and Sue into joining her humanitarian mission (Val says she's in but then says that it might be the swill talking...)

As delighted as I was to see Valkyrie (though the otherwise fine artist makes her armored breast cups look a bit *too* much like the real things) and Aragorn return, I'm puzzled by how Thundra's presence ties in with her concurrent appearance in SI Inhumans and her cameos in green Hulk titles over the last few months (she apparently is the mother of Hulk's as-yet-unseen daughter!).

Are all of these the 'same' Thundra? Her home planet and culture have had more than one characterization, haven't they? I like her to pieces, but her back-story's a bit hazy.

Wow- no one else is excited by Val's return? Or by the formation of a new Lady Liberators?

I'm shocked!

And disappointed.

Wrong! I just read the issue.

The best issue since Slott left, IMO.

LOVE the funny take on Valkyrie... yeah, this is definitely not the Thundra who I first met in the 70s in FF, crushing on ol' Ben Grimm.

As far as I'm concerned, issue # 35 could convert from She-Hulk to LADY LIBERATORS. Or Bod Squad, whichever.

PAD did an excellent job with the interactions. And the art has totally grown on me!

Its okay. I've read much better stuf from PAD, and am not dropping the book, but it needs a bit more story, more humor, and honestly, better art for me to really dig it.

#35 wasn't quite as entertaining as #34, but *did* contain much more weighty fight scenes.

This storyline seems designed to tickle my personal comic funny bone-- big roles for Valkyrie, Thundra and Darkstar (who has quite different powers than her predecessor, but still has me curious about her) and a good ol' fashioned meet/fight/reach an accord between two groups of super-beings.

I liked the way Red Guardian and Ursa Major were written. Wouldn't mind seeing more of this Winter Guard elsewhere.

I *really* wish Peter David would get the green light for a LADY LIBERATORS ongoing. Unfortunately, I think it more likely that She-Hulk will be relegated to something called 'Hulk Family' or somesuch.

This was a huge week for the character of Valkyrie- who was also featured in HULK #8, which had its moments, but was mostly set-up for a double-page spread featuring what looks like would be the rest of the prospective roll-call for LADY LIBs. Spider-woman (given SI, how?), Tigra, Storm, Hellcat and Black Widow arrive to face Red Hulk next issue...

Val also was a main character in the THOR: MAN OF WAR one-shot. Here, she's sent by Odin to teach Thor a lesson. They fight, first each other and then a frost giant. With the aid of the Warriors Three and Balder, the Asgardians triumph and celebrate their victory in a tavern- where Brunnhilde's all over Thor.

The story's set in the fairly distant past (as in centuries ago), but it was still odd to see Val draped over Thor's lap. She disappears in the second half of the book, which features a dust-up between father and son Norse gods.

That's a lot of appearances for a character that's been absent for so long. Still, there's no explanation about her current relationship to Asgard.

Just read somewhere (newsarama, i think) that its cancelled...again...

and since this is one of two (count'em, two) marvel books that i have been reading (Understand, i used to read all the x-men, hulk, spider-man, Captain Mar-vell, west coast avengers, well, you get the picture) it just means that i will have more money to stick in my pocket.

Cancellation fever...everyone has it.

PAD never got me on this one. I just didn't like what he was doing here. Its rare for a PAD book to not be good (for me), but this was one of 'em.

I've been reading PAD's "But I Digress" in CBG since I was 11 years old, so I think I know him better than I know most writers. He has lots of thoughts on various topics, a great deal of whih I agree on, and he has his own theory of why a title needs to embrace crossovers. I don't buy it though...I think on that account he's dead wrong, and it hurt both X-Factor and She-Hulk.

I'd love for a Lady Liberators ongoing though. That would rock!

Well, i found PAD on Hulk the first time, and went back and tried to buy all the backissues. He never let things get static on Hulk, CM, Supergirl, or Aquaman. That said, as much as i love his stuff (still buying Fallen Angel), he just didn't seem to hit his stride on Shulkie. Granted, that usually builds and really picks up momentum after the first year of him doing a series, but it just didn't seem to be kicking into gear here.

I would, however, have stayed with the book for quite some time till he did find his groove thang.

Give the LADY LIBERATORS their own title, already.

Seeing Val and Thundra again has pretty much made my comics-reading month since November.

As far as Shulkie's participation, she's much more believable and entertaining in these character's company than in the LAST DEFENDERS. And I love the Defenders. Well, usually.

Todd, did you get the Thor one-shot that was basically a Thor/Valkrye team-up comic? It was by Matt Fraction and it was A+ excellent.

Eh. I used to love Peter David but something happened recently where I just don't get into his work.

I agree with LASH I would love it if this book became the Lady Libs or Bod Squad. Throw in Tigra or Hellcat.

Heck, now that the world "Avengers" is overused as much as "X" call them the Lady Avengers.

SHE-HULK 38 sees the release of this series' final issue.

It ends with a pun, a bad one, but that groaner is preceded by a pretty fun free-Jadzinda-from-captivity plot that sees the return of Thundra, Valkyrie and Invisible Woman.

Val and Jen's interactions are priceless-- they'd easily be a perfect centerpiece for a Liberators ongoing... or even a relaunch of The Defenders. Thundra's piles of fun, too.

The character of Mallory Book makes some interesting moves in this issue... lots of room is left for her return somewhere or other.

I'll miss this book, even if I wasn't so fond of Peter David's non-Liberator stories.

I've now bought three or four different versions of She-hulk over the years. They all seem to end for not much good reason.

PAD wasnt knocking it out the park for me, but i would have stuck with it.

And yeah, the pun was a groaner, but i love puns that can actually cause people to leave a room, so it worked for me.

SAVAGE SHE-HULK #1-- I wasn't going to buy this, but my cbs thoughtfully put in my file and I want to encourage that kind of customer service, so I went ahead and bought it.

And I enjoyed it. Not enough to think the main She-Hulk title should've been banished to make room for this, but I liked it.

The central character's likeable, though her background's sort of dodgy. But then, what superhero's background isn't?

One thing I'm not clear on-- is Lyra's mother the same Thundra that recently in the Liberators? And is that Thundra the same Thundra that Crystal and Medusa visited in the Inhumans mini-series last year? Three different timelines going? Two?

The cover's certainly striking. I wish the parental units had appeared in the issue, as stretching things out until they guest-star is quite predictable.

Guess which comic book I just read before I logged in?

Short version: I liked the "present day story" a lot more than I expected. I only wish that our beloved Lash were alive to read this post. Sigh.

The initial reason I bought it, though, was that it includes the only color reprint of "Savage She-Hulk" issue 1 in existence (at least as far as I'm aware.) No points for guessing that it's because it was pencilled by John Buscema (who did pencils & inks on the GORGEOUS cover, which thankfully is also reprinted.)

Will post more of my thoughts on "She-Hulk" issue 3 (Legacy Number 100,) and on Jen Walters in general, later.

Wow, that link from Mile High is still live after 17 years!!!

In the end it's just Mile High Comics, Legion World and Vandal Savage discussing She Hulk in the ashes of the world.