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Re: Justice League
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I was thrilled to see a Legion reference, but wonder how this fits into post-InfCrisis continuity. I doubt Booster Gold (R.I.P.?) even has a flight ring in this 'boot.
It was a fun reference point, to say the least. Couple the flight ring reference to the tunnel under Clark's room as a boy and you've got a number of pre-Crisis threads weaving a potentially interesting throw pillow!!
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Re: Justice League
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An interesting thing about the Hal/Dinah/Ollie/Roy scene is when Ollie says that they're "putting the band back together" they treat it like they are (hence Ollie being proud). But it doesn't look to me like the Big3 are done with their selections. First time around, I kinda assumed they were contacted off-panel, but they all have their own reason for getting together (Reddy and Kathy) apart from the Big3. It'll be interesting if Hal, Dinah and Roy also independently decided to restart the League.
I also hope they use Hal's "invisi-bubble" again. After a ring function like that's been established, it'll seem stupid not to use it again. (same goes for the telepathic plugs Hal made in "52")
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Re: Justice League
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like the lineup, reminds me of the satellite era.
glad vixen and black lightning finally made it! (prefere vixen over aquaman....and i dont mind aquaman)
not sure why red arrow is such an addition, especially over green arrow.
also, wish zatanna was there. not excited about kendra but would have loved to see shayera in it, her personality and alien background always gave her a lot more than just being able to fly.
but i am wondering how good the lineup is whne bats supes and wondy get busy. that dosnt seem to happen too much with team comics anymore but it took down the satellite era league.
where is power girl? thought she was a shoe in.
also, not sure how i like the swapping of JSA and JLA team members from year to year.
btw, i actually bought this!!! (i havent bought the JLA since JLInternational!! (except for the giffen maguire run on classified))
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What's Diana's problem with Nightwing? I for one would like to see more of the "Jr.Justice League" characters join the "grown up" team. Wally made it and now Speedy gets to play in the big leagues so what's wrong with little Dicky Grayson? I'm assuming (actually) that she thinks that Bruce wants to "stack the deck" with trusted allies and that the original Robin would be his right-hand-man in the League. That's not necessarily true but I wouldn't expect WW to actually know that. Dick is actually a better team player than Bruce and (I think) a superior team-leader. ...have Diana give me a call and I'll see if I can talk her into changing her vote...
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Re: Justice League
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Originally posted by Yellow Kid: What's Diana's problem with Nightwing? I for one would like to see more of the "Jr.Justice League" characters join the "grown up" team. Wally made it and now Speedy gets to play in the big leagues so what's wrong with little Dicky Grayson?
I'm assuming (actually) that she thinks that Bruce wants to "stack the deck" with trusted allies and that the original Robin would be his right-hand-man in the League. That's not necessarily true but I wouldn't expect WW to actually know that.
Dick is actually a better team player than Bruce and (I think) a superior team-leader.
...have Diana give me a call and I'll see if I can talk her into changing her vote... I'll have to re-read it again but I took it that Diana was kidding with Bruce, saying that if she gave in on ? (can't remember and don't have the issue with me) then she'd fight him on Dick.
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Re: Justice League
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They were talking about Captain Marvel.
I don't think we'll ever see Nightwing in the League as the same time as Bats, and we won't see it at all under Meltzer's run given what he said on Newsarama.
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Wouldn't it be cool if PLATINUM is the mysterious 'final' member to join? I loved seeing her and Gold again in #1.
Other members of the METAL MEN could rotate to take her place when she's 'out of order', which you know she would be every few issues.
If there's a METAL MEN series in the cards, I'd prefer her there, I guess. It'd be fun to see one of the Metal Men out on their own in the wider DCU, though.
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The beginning still reminds me of kids playing some hero card game - especially with Batman's "I want him" comment. I wonder if Meltzer was intentionally harkening back to a more innocent frame of mind or maybe trying to appeal to the card gamers out there?
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Re: Justice League
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Here be spoilers... S P O I L E R S P A C E Courtesy of Lying in the Gutters , here is the published cover for JLA #2, revealing the shadowy figures from the preview (also here for your comparison). As noted by Rich, the shadows don't match up to what is revealed and they've changed the color of the bow.
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Re: Justice League
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I love the line up. While I admit Red Tornado doesn't do much for me...i am tired of the Martian Manhunter in the JLA. Plus RT reminds me of my favorite JLA era...and Meltzer did a great job selling him in issue #1.
Really love Roy Harper! I also was hoping for Garth/Tempest as the next Titan to get promoted to the big time. Just cause he blows away Aquaman. But I'm a bigger fan of Roy's than Garth anyhow. Red Arrow? Eh. Crimson Arrow or Archer may be better.
LOVE the women on the team. UNLIKE the Legion they have aggressive powers! Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl, Black Canary, Vixen, and Power Girl? ouch!
And very glad to see Black Lightning as well. Been waiting forever to see him done right! (hal jordan? eh. I would've preferred any other GL including Gnort).
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Re: Justice League
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Hm... in the above image, Roy's belt buckle doesn't appear to be an "R" like it was on the cover to #1... it kinda looks more like a "G"...?
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Re: Justice League
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Damn...I was hoping Roller Girl of Boogie Nights would make the lineup. Man, DC has no imagination....
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Yeah, but which Red Tornado is that? The new human version or the rebooted robot? Interesting possiblities sub-plot wise. Looks like I'm onboard foe a while with this new book.
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hmmm i miss my android red tornado.
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Re: Justice League
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Well, there's always the Red Inferno (as mentioned in "52"). Considering we already have Dr. Impossible, it'd be interesting if Reddy's "evil twin" were also in on this.
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I like where this is going, but the story itself doesn't seem to be as "big" as this over-hyped relaunch would indicate. I know Meltzer wants to emphasize the personal here, but the mystery around the threat doesn't allow for us to feel that what's happening is all that important and requires a new JLA to deal with.
I like the Canary/Lantern/Arsenal trio. They've known each other a very long time and it shows, but they've mostly been seen in how they relate to Green Arrow, so seeing them without Ollie is a nice change.
the Big3 sit in the cave some more, not doing much of anything other than coming off as pompous. We have Arsenal contradicting Wonder Woman about how good it would be to have Green Arrow, and all this other drama is unfolding while they just deliberate -- I can't tell if Meltzer wants to use them as building towards a climactic formation of the group or if he's really intending for them to come off as insular and a bit full of themselves.
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meanwhile i get way more android red tornados than i could have hoped for. maybe i should watch what i wish for..
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Re: Justice League
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Originally posted by DrakeB3004: the Big3 sit in the cave some more, not doing much of anything other than coming off as pompous. We have Arsenal contradicting Wonder Woman about how good it would be to have Green Arrow, and all this other drama is unfolding while they just deliberate -- I can't tell if Meltzer wants to use them as building towards a climactic formation of the group or if he's really intending for them to come off as insular and a bit full of themselves. I have to say that this is my harshest criticism of the whole series so far. We have been told that these three are back to being fast friends and that they have gotten 'over themselves'. But here we see them debating about peoples worth as if they were nothing more than tools to use and then stabbing one another behind their backs as if they were in Jr. High all over again. And the bit about handing Booster suit out to someone they deemed worthy was just wrong. I like the Canary/Arsenal/GL team up but I didn't need JLA for this. I'd rather have Canary in BoP. Jamie
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For me it was worth the price of admission to see Hal take out the Tornadoes.
I really hope things pick up next month though -- at least get the Big3 off their duffs and out of the cave already!
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Meltzer's clearly taking his time putting the Big 3 into action, likely so the other members can get some spotlight time beforehand. It's a good idea, but I hope we see the whole team together fairly soon.
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The tone so far has been fairly personal in nature, but with the one-two punch of what looks like Amazo and Starro (and god knows who else), it looks like some earth shattering *JLA* action is in the future (at least I hope so).
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Re: Justice League
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I'm really enjoying this book so far. I'm hoping they keep "The Big 3" out of action and more in mentoring roles. They've had their time..
Let Vixen, Arsenal, Reddy and the others shine!
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While I enjoy the fact that the plot seems to be advancing without the Big3, I would prefer to see the team act as a *team* once they all get together. I think seeing the others fight alongside the Big Guns is what will make them look good. I doubt Meltzer will sideline Arsenal or Vixen once they're in the mix.
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Re: Justice League
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I would like Justice League to get beyond the whole Big Three picking who should be in the League.
Big Dog! Big Dog! Bow Wow Wow!
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So, is Roy calling himself Arsenal here? Does he wear the costume Turner draws on the cover, or his outfit from The Outsiders?
Just spouting off.
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