Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities BRIGHTEST DAY

While I myself am not a fan of Lian Harper (although I do love Jason Rusch and Kendra Saunders) it was completely ridiculous to kill her off. It didn't add any depth to the storyline, if anything it was the final straw.

I did appreciate Lian's presence because it made Roy into a relatable character, a single parent who had it all under control, it's refreshing for a comic book series. Also, the timing was just terrible what with younger heroes beginning to pop up... Damian Wayne, Iris West, it could've been the making of the new Young Justice.

I hadn't become a fan of Roy OR Lian until after Cry for Justice ended, when someone started the movement on facebook and I realized, with disgust, how blind I've been to the horrible treatment the Titans have had, and that by spending my money I was saying it was okay.

Now Roy's become DC's Punisher and to make things worse he was goaded into killing somebody by a corpse-like hallucination of his daughter telling him to gut the guy like a pig.

Huh. Did you guys know that the Hope Entity, Adara, shares the same name as a deceased Green Lantern?

http://www.comicvine.com/adara/29-50773/

I.E. Brightest Day #6:

What the hell, Johns?! What the hell?! I don't care if he did create M'gann what the hell?!

She's seen better days... poor M'gann. Maybe it looks worse than it actually is?

She can't be easier to kill than J'onn.

And we know she's not REALLY dead.

^Hm? I thought Cassie was gonna be in this one?!?! Is that the new Aqualad on the right foreground? Thought he had dark hair?

That's Aqualad, yes.

I haven't seen Cassie mentioned in any of the recent articles I've read on the cartoon.

It's not that she's "dead".

Another Titan forced to go through a round of ultra violence and torture. Not that this isn't Megan's first time.

Catching up on Blackest Night #4 and #5, my main thoughts are: I’m still very interested in this series and the storylines, but I think I’m going to need quite a bit more ‘meat’ per issue from this point onwards. Based on interviews, it appears the series is going that way, but I need the story to get there—and fast. In particular, the Firestorm story needs a boost, and I realize I haven’t seen Martian Manhunter in two issues, and actually don’t care at all.

That being said, I’m enjoying some of the things we’ve seen so far. In particular, the Mera revelation at the end of #5 was a good one. This looks like more of what Johns has been able to do with GL: take undefined and vague parts of the characters lore (usually Silver Age lore) and add some more layers to it that help further refine the character’s mythos and personalities. I hope he does this quite a bit more with Aquaman (and knowing Geoff, I’m confident he won’t trash anything PAD did with the mythos, which I hold very dear).

I also am liking that we’re seeing more Hawk & Dove in the Deadman story, as I feel we’ve hardly seen them. To be honest, I like the concept of Hawk & Dove, but find little appealing about either character. In other words, they are more welcome additions to furthering the plot, while I could care less if anything happens to them. I hope that changes here and in BOP.

Haven't read #6 yet (I'm not if I even have it yet).

So I did read #6 and I can see where SK's annoyance is coming from. The super-violence in the Martian Manhunter storing is distracting and bordering on farce. It's beyond annoying. It took me totally out of the whole issue.

Thank you.

Have not gotten 6 yet, but from what I've heard...I'm not going to. The ultra violence is too over the top at this point in this book...

Ah well...JLI:GL is still fun reading.

I did not see that happening with Power Girl.

Still reading and enjoying Brightest Day. I think my favourite stoylines at the moment are Aquaman, Martian Manhunter (minus the violence) and Deadman/Hawk & Dove.

Though I am loving the Jason/Ronnie Firestorm dynamic (minus all the references to Ronnie being a hard-partying drinker - HELLO!?! He's a recovering alcoholic. Not that I liked that old storyline very much mind you.) and feel that that portion is just about to kick-start into another gear. And the Hawkman/Hawkgirl subplot took another interesting turn with those weird lion and hawk people turning up. I hope, hope, hope we get a mention/reference to Lionmane somewhere in here.

The art is still uniformly excellent but is it just me or did it look slightly more unpolished in this latest issue compared to others? I wonder if the deadline is catching up on some of them?

Gripes -

* I still hate J'onn's black pants look. So ugly and boring. I heard someone or other say at Comicon that they argued long and hard about whether to keep him in shorts or not. Well, they came out with the wrong decision IMO. His colour scheme is all off now I think. His old look was a classic IMO. There was no need to change it.

* The violence is not necessary. I hope we don't see any more of it.

* ummm... can't think of any more right now.

Looking forward to the next issue because I still have no idea where this series is going, and that excites me about it.

When I mentioned in the Flash thread about this book showing what is srong with comics nowadays, I'm specifically talkeing about the unneeded ultra violent images in this book.

Seeing humans skinned alive, being shown their bodies, then showing it happen again in the course of 5 issues is just over the top and trumps any good story telling they may be doing here.

Maybe part of my personal issue with it is I'm looking at comics more with the thought of what I could hand my 9 year old to read. She loves comics, but there is no way that I;d give BD to read.

The Atom, The Flash are perfect examples of books that I will let her read (thus far) in the near future.

I am not a prude when it comes to violence as nothing much can really honestly bothers me in comics if used in some context that makes sense. I just do not think that mainstream hero comics that are really ainmed for all ages...I at her age could pick up just about any Marvel/DC book without an issue, is the place for it.

Marvel <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Ares getting ripped in half on panel</span></span> (spoiler just in case.) or DC's use of it here in these stories.

DC has other lines (Wildstorm and Vertigo) and Marvel had their Max and Icon lines to showcase those stories.

I completely agree with you on the ultra-violence point Dev Em. I'm no prude either, far from it, and I don't even have any little kids to worry about - it just flat out doesn't belong. If a reader wants to see graphic ultra-violence then they should look to Vertigo or another company. And if DC wants to start producing it then they should start planning for their irrelevancy sooner than later - because bright colourful heroes and all the rapey-torturey-dismembermenty "fun" they've got going on in some of their books are totally incompatible as far as I'm concerned.

My other big gripe is with "bad language". Levitz' use of "bitch" in the latest issue of LSH really threw me - and that's not even that bad of a word. But it just seemed totally jarring and out of place. And most of all - unnecessary. There were a hundred other words Brainy could have used there. Why did Paul choose that one? To shock the reader? Realism? If it was meant to shock it was a pointlessly bad one and I'm sorry, but I do not come to my LSH comics for realism.

I've noticed it in a few other superhero comics lately too and I find it just as annoying there as well.

I agree with you both. When its over the top like this it just makes the comics seem immature and written by college freshmen. It's annoying and takes me out of the story because its in conflict with the nature of the sueprhero genre and often is just played up for shock value.

Thus far, I'm not 100% committed to Brightest Day because of that reason. Even though I like quite a bit of what's going on, if I get annoyed enough one more time, I'll eliminate this series entirely from my pull list and save on two issues a month.

And I totally agree on some of the language. It just seems so childish that it's creating the opposite effect of being 'adult'.

Why can't today's comics be more like Animaniacs or Courage the Cowardly Dog. Enjoyable and understandable for everyone.

I think that's true of entertainment generally these days. Most things seem to be either "kid-friendly", but that usually means dumbed down, or to be so "adult-oriented" as to be competely inappropriate for kids.

Except Phineas and Ferb.

Yea, it's not just comics that have matured, it's all forms of entertainment. To be fair, the audience expects more mature entertainment too. We don't read/watch comics/tv shows that have that more innocent material. It's why books like Tiny Titans don't last long, why Archie comics aren't in the Top 10.

Brightest Day is not a book for someone in primary school. Most of DC's line is written for readers old enough to drive. You want comics for a younger crowd, buy Supergirl's Adventures in the 8th grade, buy Boom's Muppets book. There are comics out there, they just aren't all at DC/Marvel.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">So, we learn why these twelve were brought back in BD #7.

*Hawkman: Stop Hawkworld's queen from invading Earth.
*Hawkgirl: Stop Hawkman from being killed in Hawkworld by Hath-Set, or he won't be resurrected.
*Martian Manhunter: Burn the Star City forest. Burn it all.
*Ronnie Raymond: He and Jason must learn from each other, and stop Black Lantern Firestorm from getting the White Lantern.
*Aquaman: Get to the new Aqualad before "they" do.
*Osiris: Bring back Isis.
*Maxwell Lord: Kill Magog before he plunges the world into war.
*Jade: Balance the darkness.
*Reverse Flash: He already brought Barry Allen out of the Speed Force, so he's good.
*Captain Boomerang: Throw the boomerang at Dove.
*Hawk: Catch the boomerang.
*Deadman: Find a new protector of Earth before the Entity dies. </span></span>

Thanks Sarky...and I'm out of this one. Peace...

Yeah, it's kinda weird that an entity of life would want somebody killed.