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Cru- Just FYI (cuz I'm bored):

Hulk left in #2, but appeared in #3 (fighting the Avengers with Namor) and #5 (fighting alongside them unknowingly against the Lava Men).

Cap joined in #4 (first Silver Age appearance, discounting a false Cap fighting the Torch in Strange Tales). Cap stayed on through the new team (Cap's Cooky Quartet), the return of Hank and Jan and the introduction of Hercules, until leaving around issue 40-something. It was the one with the Super-Adaptoid on the cover, I know that (going on pure memory here).

To be anal-retentive, it would be Wonder Man who joined in #9 that was next, although he betrayed them and died in that issue.

Then Clint, Wanda and Pietro in #16.

Then the Swordsmen (kinda) in #21-? (Pretty sure I'm screwing that number up). Like Wonder Man, this can be discounted if traitors are being discluded. Of course, both Swordsmen and Wondy went on to join anyway...

Then Hercules (although Hank and Jan had returned by then).

Ixnayed the moment she was born in FF #240 - apparently Reed's scans were thorough (and it was reiterated in Thing #3).

Actually, he didn't join in #9 - he joined much later, after his revival (and then only as a probationary member. Him becoming a full member was done off-panel).

OTOH, Swordsman DID join in Avengers #20, even if it was to betray them. Whether they would have wiped that membership (as with Hulk, Terminatrix & Machine Man) is another matter, but since he joined honestly later, that's kinda moot.

I could have sworn that he joined in #9. Hm...it's been a few years since I read the issue though. The first Avengers comics I ever read were #1-16, which my dad has copies of and that's one of my favorite stories. I remember wondering why, as a kid, Wonder Man had his own comic book, when I just read that he died and my Dad had to explain to me that that happened 30 years earlier. Things like that hooked me on the Avengers.

re: luna

now why would anyone say that the offspring of two powerful characters would be an ordinary human. where's the potential of that. besides it's unbelievable. she could always fall into the terrigan mists or is that fatal to ordinary humans.

The potential of Luna is that she's the only normal human amongst the Inhumans - that's what would be cool to explore once she's old enough. The last thing I'd want to see is another "little kid with powers greater than their parents combined" type Franklin Richards, Nathan Summers crapola.

that would be crapola.

Since when does Marvel care about continuity. They write the stories to fit their needs. This isn;t meant to be an attack of any kind -more of a disappointment in how marvel conducts business.

Joe Quesadilla "We're not bringing anyone back from the dead."

Hello Peter and Betsy. I don't mind because I love the characters and especially loved the manner in which Peter was brought back -but you can't trust them to honor continuity.

See, I think, when she gets older, she is going to lust after power, maybe turning to magic, science, something awesome!

As crapola as a normal human like Batman being in the JLA? I think that's more a natural extension of her established status in the Inhuman community and makes her unique. If she develops powers, she becomes like any other Inhuman. She's pretty much a blank slate anyway, I'm just saying I wouldn't want them to erase one of the few things that's been important to her character thus far.

p.s. I hope you didn't take it personally just because I didn't like the direction you mentioned for the character. You can always tell me why you don't like my idea or tell me why your idea is interesting to you. I mentioned not liking your idea because it reminded me of other stories that were poorly done - that's all.

i meant the franklin richards, nate summers i am so powerful i need to be depowered....slant.


i was agreeing with you. but, i wasn't saying she should be awesomly powered in the first place.

maybe i could write: that WOULD be crapola. or now, THAT would be crapola. would've been better.

i would prefer she had powers personally. there are an endless number (6 billion) of normal humans out there to become batman. maybe if she became something non powered that capitalized on her other back grounds...

#3 was the best read of a crowded week! I'm loving this book. The fact that the writer is a big Legion and Titan fan is a real plus for me.

I'm not enough of a Marvel scholar to figure out if there's more meaning to some of the revelations in this issue than seems apparent. Any 'true believers' out there who can illuminate?

We can add Patriot to Iron Lad as characters whose back stories we now sort-of know. I'm *really* looking forward to the exploration of Asgardian and Hulkling.

About Luna-- it'd be kind of neat if she adopted a persona derived from Inhuman folklore; perhaps using some gadgetry she invented (with Reed's help?).

Maybe she's raising Lockjaw's pup, since the critter's disappeared from the pages of the FF.

I think she'd be a *great* addition to the cast, but I wonder if they'll let her be aged? She's associated with the Fantastic Four quite a bit... and you know that would raise the flag of the Franklin 'problem'.

At the least, it'd mean at least *some* use of Quicksilver and/or Crystal... which would be welcome.

"NRAMA: Sharp-eyed readers also noticed a sword (Swordsman?), a baton (Mockingbird?) and what looks like Black Widow's belt, all characters that had ties to Hawkeye. Can you comment on the connection or lack thereof and what it means? Are fans on the right track?"

Newsrama had this to say of Kate Bishop. So she's like the normal human action star??? Didn't someone mention the Taskmaster had a daughter? In that case it has to be her. And I would dig that.

- Did Asgardian's identity or family ring a bell with anyone? I'm not too much into Thor lore. What could his connection be?
- Why wouldn't Hulkling have any idea where he got his powers? hmm...
- I can't believe it's an accident that on the cover it almost looks like Asgardian and Hulkling are holding hands. More fuel for the fire...
- I wonder if Vision's fallback plan was a side effect of when he gained near omniscience being plugged into every computer system etc back in the day, granting him knowledge to figure out this "next wave" of heroes.

I wonder how many of those white dots on the Vision's map we'll be seeing in these pages or have seen in other Marvel books...

I second DrakeB's question-- did the family names of Asgardian and/or Hulkling ring any memory bells?

Paging Cobalt...

Also, what exactly was Asgardian's "other" superpower displayed towards the end?

Haven't checked out the issue yet, but I'm excited that it's out already! If Asgardian's story ties into Thor continuity, I'll know it and report back when I read the issue!

i was just making up teh taskmaster thing. anyone know who mr. bishop is if anybody?

i assume we will see more young avengers from the map since there are actual names to go with dots.

I've seen a list of the names on another website (one I wouldn't recommend cause it blows) but none of the names sounded familiar.

The writer is doing a good job eh?

I was also hoping Asgardian was one of those twins saved by Thor way back in the Simonson days. Adopted (human) sons of Volstagg. Ferget their names.

OK, spoil me. Tell me the real name of Asgardian and I might be able to remember it. I can't think of those two kids off the top of my head, but if I heard their names, I'd know.

Asgardian: "I'm Billy Kaplan. My parents are Jeff and Rebecca. He's a cardiologist. She's a psychologist. Two little brothers, both obnoxious ... does that mean anything to you guys?"

The only tie I can think of is that his dad's a doctor and Thor used to be one (and of course Jane was a nurse, Jake was an EMT). Maybe they knew each other?

Great issue. And some great quotes:

"Okay, this completely violates Growing Man cotinuity." Asgardian

"We're Fanboys aren't we? So we collect them all." Hulkling

That single line by Hulkling raised my appreciation of him about 10 notches. I didn't get the issue because my comic shop is jacked up, but I read most of the issue -this may become one of my favorite books -especially considering the current LSH isn't really working for me.

Ok I'm convinced I will like YA. Going to get the trade. The one thing I do not like is Jessica Jones. This series seems geared towards old Avengers fans and she's just a Bendis reminder.

Black Widow and a host of former Avengers can fill this role much better. Ofcourse I vote for Tasha! Or heck someone with Kang connections? Jessica Jones? ugh.

I really like Asgardian as drawn by Jim Cheung! Maybe I shoulda asked for an Asgardian sketch instead when I saw him in January but I hadn't even read the book yet!