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WW was known publicly as Princess Diana of Themyescera and their representative to the world in this reboot. Did she ever use the name Diana Prince? Is this Diana Prince the old WW?
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Here are the links CJ mentioned: The Pulse Lying in the Gutters
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According to the Justice League of America preview at Newsarama : <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">The Wonder Woman appearing in the new JLA is Diana. I wonder if that means that Donna is only a temp?</span></span>
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Random Wonder Woman question: Wonder Woman has been built up lately to be almost on par with Superman in terms of powers, so why does she have to use those bracelets to deflect bullets? (or does she not do that anymore in the comics?)
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She doesn't use them because she *has* to, but because she *wants* to!
She may be nearly as strong as Superman and maybe as fast (not really sure about that), but she's not invulnerable.
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Wouldn't it be great if after all the buzz of Heinberg/Picoult, Gail Simone came on board as the regular writer for WW?
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Actually, she sort of does need the bracelets. She's super strong and fast and all that but isn't invunerable. How tough she is obviusly changes from writer to writer, but there was a story a while back (drawn by Byrne certainly, not sure about the writer) which is included in the JLA secret origins trade about her being trained when she was a girl. Basically the point of it was that while she could stop boulders and all that sort of stuff things like arrows or bullets have a much higher impact strength or something (I forget the scientific jargon) because all the power is focused on one small point. Because of that while she was unlikely to be hurt by something big hitting her a bullet could still potentially pierce her skin and do damage.
That's not very well explained on my part, but it does make sense in a comic book way. It's worth tracking down the story though to see what i've not explained clearly. The art is OK and the story is nice and clears up what is essentially a big flaws in her powers. The problem lies in the fact that she keeps having her powers amped up to put her on a level with Superman when there really isn't any need to do that. It's kind of like her being able to fly but also having an invisible plane.
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Originally posted by Bevis: It's kind of like her being able to fly but also having an invisible plane. I get that. I can walk to work, but I'd rather take the train. (although I don't know how fast she's supposed to be able to fly or how much it takes out of her etc...)
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It probably doesn't hurt that, as a warrior, it is much more impressive to deflect bullets with her bracelets, rather than just stand there and have them bounce off her. After all, she did enter a competition to become Wonder Woman.
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Yes, there is that too. The bracelets are symbolic for amazons, showing their enslavement to protect the door to hell underneath Themyscira which is why they all wear them. And as Cru says the final task of the tournament to pick their representative to the outside world was the Trial of Flashing Thunder (I think that's what they called it) where they had to deflect a bullet fired from Diana Trevor's gun. It's ages since I read the origin story, and who knows what's changed in curent continutity, but I think the only two to have ever actually passed that test were Diana and Artemis, although I'm fairly sure that Hippolyta was shown doing it as well when she was Wonder Woman. So it's as much a skill or style of defence as it is a super power. Plus on a purely aesthetic story-telling level it looks cool and is a neat little gimmick.
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Bevis - that's post-Crisis. The Pérez stories, being heavily tied as they were to concurrant DCU events, won't fit with the post-Infinite Crisis "she founded the JLofA. She did she did she did!!!" thing without being very, very heavily rewritten.
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Yeah, that's what I mean about who knows with regards to current continuity. I think they've said that polly was still Wondy during the war but they've also said that Diana was the first Wonder Womand and clearly those two things don't tie together. I doubt they'll have changed the reason for the Amazons wearing the bracelets since they don't have any reason too and it's one of the parts of the origin story that have been in place since the very early stories, but the whole Flashing Thunder thing and Artmeis being Wondy and all that stuff could well have gone out of the window.
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Finally got to read issue #1 this weekend.
Wow! That's all I can say. The art is sumptuous. The story is fun, without being silly. So much of what is really important about WW's past is acknowledged deftly and respectfully, but everything moves along nicely. These villains have never looked better. Donna is awesome as Wonder Woman. Nemesis is intriguing, it's always great to see Sarge Steele, and Agent Diana Prince?!?!?! Mrs. Peel, eat your heart out. (Actually, all praise be to Diana Rigg and the creators of the Avengers. What a great inspiration to draw on for Wonder Woman.) Somehow, this book, as much as any of the OYL titles, feels rejuvenated and refreshed. I have NO PROBLEM with Heinberg taking his time -- bimonthly books are money savers, if you ask me!
I think MY first Wonder Woman comic ever was also Heinberg's -- issue 212, April/May 1974, where Wonder Woman was set back on track after a variety of different adventures. Loved the cover, with the JLA pleading for Diana to return, but the story didn't thrill me as much as it did Heinberg, apparently. Still, Heinberg's first issue of Wonder Woman is a perfect tribute to that past AND a wondrous launch into the future. Hurray!
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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has this title been confirmed as being bi-monthly ?? or is so, just because of gap between 1 and 2 !!
and 2 should have been out last week [ shouldn't it ?? ]
i am 'happy' to wait for an excellent read and fab artwork !! but i do think TPTB should have planned this a little better, so there ha dbeen more lead time !!
considering what they mention in the BIG THREE podcast, there shouldn't have been this large a gap between 1st and 2nd issues of a new BID book !!
i don't think this would have happened with the SUPERMAN or BATMAN titles [ don't include ALL STAR ! ] and i don't suppose the gap between the JLoA issues will be this big !!??
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Q: Is Wonder Woman #2 gay?
A: No, but it did come out.
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Not yet, DC missed the ship date on WW2. It is now re-listed for this week.
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Finally, WW2 was released.
Another good read-- if you like Diana Prince, Nemesis, the white pantsuit complete with a mention of I Ching, an angry Cassie Sandsmark, a flashback with a smiley Batman, and the unbeatable image of Giganta wearing Donna Troy as a pendant dangling between her breasts.
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Get used to the book being late. Wonder Woman is now bimonthly (scroll down to Briefly). #4 has been pushed back until December.
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Seeing as how it's been quarterly so far, I'm still not holding my breath.
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I just loved issue #2, and I am not sure why. Maybe it's that Heinberg just really GETS these characters, and the Dodson's seamlessly translate that understanding into visuals. Did Dr. Psycho realize that Diana Prince is Wonder Woman? It seems unlikely that he wouldn't figure it out, being psychic and all. The image of Diana Prince starting her starry spinny change into Wonder Woman was just awesome. Now we have Hercules -- not Herakles?!?! When a comic is this good, I don't mind bimonthly. Saves money.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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The interminable wait between issues is *not* kind to this title. I *really* would've preferred waiting another six months or so, and then reading the five issues in orderly monthly release.
Oh, well.
I loved the page where Hercules lists his accomplishments, including slaying the nemean lion, the nine-headed hydra and concluding with "And now the Cheetah!". Great page.
It was fun seeing Circe pop up-- though I did feel a bit of 'what- her again?'
I hope the gods and goddesses don't stay in whatever plane they've removed themselves to, for long. Their absence is keenly felt, at least by me.
I imagine Hercules is about to do something shady-- betraying someone or the other. Because, frankly, at this point-- Wonder Man *is* more interesting than Wonder Woman. Whether she's Diana or Donna.
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Is anyone afraid that the JLA scene where WW gives up immortality for a man might come to pass in this title? Does anyone see sparks with Nemesis?
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I hadn't thought about that. Interesting premise if these visions in JLA 0 are supposed to happen at some point. Eh, it's probably like the Adult Legion story. It could happen but then again, maybe not.
Really liking where this is going but I agree that the delays are just ridiculous. It hasn't even been bi-monthly. Argh. I am very curious to see where this all goes but it'll be July by the time they finish the first arc.
How many issues is Heinberg signed on for?
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Heinberg is 5-6 I forget which was specified. Then a female novelist come on for a similar length arc.
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DC announced today that WW #5, which was supposed to be the last part of the "Who Is Wonder Woman" story. Instead they will have a new story written by Will Pfeifer, with art by Jean Diaz, Geraldo Borges and Wellington Diaz and a cover by Terry Dodson and Rachel Dodson.
The new story is about women's movement inspired by WW's killing of Max Lord. Chapter five of "Who Is Wonder Woman" will be rescheduled at a future date.
So right at the apex of the story you stop? With all the delays this title already has been through why not delay it again for the last chapter? This is like someone breaking into a murder mystery as the murderer is about to be revealed and saying "We interrupt your program to bring you this important message." DC is botching this title as much as Marvel did with Civil War.
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