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Titans # 1 is out tomorrow. Should I buy it? Who's in? Who's out?

I'll take a peek at the store. Love the characters, the writing and art team not so much.

Same here. Also, it kind of smells of 'trying to go home again' and I'm not sure I can handle another failed attempt at that.

It's Winick, and he's not writing Barry Ween.

PASS.

I don't hang out with my high school friends. They aren't bad people, I've got fond memories. But since high school, we've went on to other things and haven't really kept in touch.

Now if DC wanted to de-age the kids, that'd be one thing. But with them having been aged and grown, forcing them into those same roles just isn't right.

I want the title to work but won't be collecting it.

Review of #1 . So far, looks awful.

I did it. I bought the first issue and read it. I'm not super impressed, but the review Jailbait Lass linked to is pretty harsh. Probably a bit harsher than the issue deserves. On the plus side, the bloodbath from the Titan's East special turns out not to be as severe as originally implied. Only one confirmed death. The return of Trigon seems legitimate enough. It's really about the only plausible reason I can think of for this particular lineup to get back together.

The artwork had its moments, but is not really a style I'm overly fond of. The script didn't have any real zing or magic. I might give it a couple more issues...

Jailbait Lass, that review was @#$$#% awesome! Thanks for the link.

If anything has Winick's name on it, I avoid it like the plague. I don't see any reason not avoid it this time.

I don't have a problem with the Titans being realy tight, after all, they, like the Legion, have fought world ending threats together, and buried friends together, it makes sense that they would still be a big part of eachothers lives.

However, I agree with you that I don't like seeing them in the same ROLES as they were. It always seem like the Titans degress to their W/P roles, not taking into the fact that Wally runs with the League now (and has kids), Roy is in the League now also, Dick is still single, Donna has probably been through more than any of them, etc. I never see the changes in these characters lives reflected in their relationships with one another.

For example, in Geoff John's Flash he has Wally talking about Dick, how they used to be really tight and now they don't talk as much, he says the reason "I got married, he didn't" To me that was pure gold, because when your life changes your relationships change also. I know that if any Titan called another they would be their in a heartbeat, but I would love to see the distance caused by changes in themselves to come in through the book and not just for them to revert to the Wolfman/Perez characters.

I wasn't too impressed by it. It was competent but not great. Will be saving my 3bucks from this point on.

The point about regressing to the roles given by Wolfman Perez is well-taken.

However I demand that Linda West be portrayed as the character that breaks up the Titans. Later Wally gets shot by a crazy guy in Central Park. Dick marries some photographer and forms a new super-hero team (the Wingsmen or something) . Then years later Mrs Grayson dies of some disease and he marries some daffy animal rights activist and has a nasty divorce where she tries to take him for all of Bruce's billions.

Roy suffers for years with addiction and eventually joins a superhero team full of old guys who used to be teen superheroes.

Meanwhile, Garth, though the weakest link in the original Titans line-up, actually goes on to enjoy the most stable post-Titans career, moonlighting as an actor and marrying a former Bond girl!

Tamper Lad & EDE - ^^^ LOVE. IT. !!!

Since I started actively participating in what comics I buy & read at the CBR, I have always bought every Titans title that has come out. Well, with this issue, I have now *not* bought my first Titans #1. And I don't intend to buy any single issue while Winnick writes this cast. Not unless I see everyone on Legion World raving about how good it is.

http://www.thexaxis.com/misc/titans1.htm

Fairly an evisceration of the book, of the fun-to-read sort.

I read the reviews, then, in a moment of veal-like weakness, I bought it anyway.

I didn't hate it.

Ian Churchill's art is pretty neat, and a lot of the stuff I saw complained about in reviews was less complaint-worthy on the page, IMO.

There were some bone-headed plot elements (warning other people, like the 35 other Teen Titans that have at least as much connection to Trigon as Speedy?) and a bit of mischaracterization (I don't care what anyone says, Raven does not wear thong undies and bubblegum pink lip gloss...). Ian Churchill's gift from drawing nekkid men doesn't seem to extend to drawing nekkid women, 'cause he somehow managed to give us three pages of nekkid Koriand'r that made her look blobby and bulbous and invertebrate. Otherwise the art was pretty awesome, and I was kinda surprised by that, since the reviewers pretty much uniformly excoriated it.

On the other hand, it's Winnick, so I'm expecting Kory and Donna to be bumpin' it soon, and Speedy/Arsenal/Red-Douchebag-who-has-nothing-to-do-with-this-story-anyway to come down with a scorching case of the hiv. Only, space-hiv, from that Thanagarian stuff he's been dipping into.

I read it just before I came over to Legion World.

Paul O'Brien's reviews at the X-Axis always brighten my Sunday nights.

My favorite part:

I paged through it inside the comic book store out of morbid curiousity and have had to wash my hands 8 times a days since to get the smell of hack writing off.

Lol, good one.

You know, I still can't believe they opened it with "Part two." I mean, I understand that the Titans East Special was set-up, but Part Two, really (and I laugh at the people who paid $3.50 for this, you didn't get ANY extra story for the extra money, Winnick is just does not write that densely).

I read it and tend to agree with all of you. I forgot what review I read for New Avengers but they basically stated that Bendis is a shock writer. They revolve a story around a shocking moment that usually isn't even really happening in the comic. Shock jocks of writers were listed as Bendis, Millar, Winick.

While I've enjoyed works by all three I have read some of their works that read like a What If...with characters acting/talking out of character.

I don't think anybody has started this thread, but has anyone checked out this new series?

I only pick up my comics once a month, so I didn't even clue in that the Titans East special was a part 1 to the new Titans #1 series.

It seems really great to see the original Perez/Wolfman version of the team together, but I'm still reserving judgement. Raven as a high school student? I still don't quite understand her reincarnation as a teen. Anyone care to explain? Why is Beast Boy not called Changeling? I still don't get the reason for that name change.

The return of Trigon? This jury is still out.

Had a few extra bucks...and really wish I hadn't.

From here on in this is a SPOILERS thread!


I read issues 1 & 2 last night, and you can prepare your rotten tomatoes that have been recalled from all the fast food places, but... I liked 'em.

Power Boy was the only fatality from the previous Titans East special (that I did NOT buy).

I liked both Churchill and Benetiz' artwork, especially the equal opportunity T&A of # 1. I wonder if Caliente saw THAT pic of Wally...? Benitez' work on # 2 was different... I especially liked his Trigon.

The "Sons of Trigon" storyline has me on board... here's hoping Winnick can rectify past mistakes (like Lilith's untimely and STUPID demise).

Hm... liked the art in the first issue, didn't like the Benitez at all! Though Trigons portrayal was kind of funny, I don't think it is a great idea to try to return to old grandeur with old stories...

How often has Trigon returned from the dead??? Five times? Isn't this a little bit redundant?

Hope Benitez won't stay as a regular penciller. way to sketchy / manga for my taste.

My biggest hope for this series? Starfire and Nightwing finally getting together... never got over their spoilt wedding in the 90s...

Your biggest hope got some mileage in #3-- but not in any ongoing sort of way.

This issue was good enough to keep me buying, even though several characters just aren't themselves (a possible explanation for this is included in the plot, however).

I find myself wandering what might've happened if some of the pairs ended up at alternate destinations? For example, would Donna and Flash have had an interlude between the stacks of cardboard boxes?

I agree that there's some spark missing from this cast being together that should be there. I'm hopeful, however.

And his hand seemed to be twitching after they got him off of the tree, so it looks like they're leaving that 'death' open as well. It's like a cliffhanger, only bad, instead of gripping.

Instead of, 'ooh, how will they get out of this!' we got, 'oh, they're all dead.' [flash forward six months] 'huh, they're not dead and there's no explanation for why?'

I was a little disappointed that Churchill seemed to lavish such loving detail on the nekkid picture of Wally (and the clothed shots of Nightwing, which looked pretty 'the camera loves you, Biblically...' as well), and yet his pictures of nekkid Kory made her look blobby and grotesque.

I couldn't pick up issue two. The art was too much for me to take.

I'm an art snob. Yes, Muffy, there it is. Pour me another cognac, would you?