On the heels of Smallville, a superhero show I expect to have lots fewer special effects...
Posted by rickshaw1 on :
looks intersting, but there are some changes, like his mom being alive from what the trailer seems to indicate. Still, seems like they are keeping close to the island origin.
Posted by MLLASH's back on :
I miss the 'Green'. Will be DVRing this for a few episodes at least, and see how it goes.
Posted by SharkLad on :
"Starling City"? And a bald, industrialist type villain?
Interesting... I'll definitely check it out...
Posted by Shining Son on :
Does it make as much sense to have a rich business villain when the hero is also rich? You don't usually see money on both sides of the hero-villain duo.
Posted by Jerry on :
Okay, gay fan boys who aren't currently buying DC comics. Time to put your principles aside and get out and buy a DC comic this week. There's a smoldering hot ad for the Arrow series featuring the star, Stephen Amell, shirtless and with a smoldering hot full camera stare down. The internet images aren't the same. You NEED to own this on real live paper.
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Posted by Shining Son on :
You should see it 30 feet tall on the side of a building. Definitely caught my eye.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
way cool!! when will it be on?
Posted by Jerry on :
Series premiere is October 10 on the CW.
Posted by Power Boy on :
if that isn't enough ... John Barrowman is joining the cast.
SQUEEEEE!
Posted by Jerry on :
Nice... ...and the Huntress is to make an appearance in the third episode.
Posted by Korbal on :
Pilot was actually pretty good. Weakest parts was probably the addition of sisters for both "Laurel" Lance, and Oliver Queen and miscasting the actor playing Drakkon (his slight stature being a major component of the character). It the comics Ollie agonized over killing, but the new television version certainly does not. Lots of interesting concepts and characters introduced, hopefully the show will get a chance to resolve them. On the Doctor Who front, beyond the teased John Barrowman's "Well Dressed Man" the actor playing Ollie's stepdad played Dr. Moon in the two-part DW episode that introduced River Song.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
I actually thought Ollie's sister was a pretty decent way to introduce a "Speedy" into the show.
"Starling City" kind of grated with me, though.
Posted by lowercase mllash on :
I kind of liked the pilot. Not sure if this will be a must-watch for me, but I am pretty curious about who will pop up (Black Canary) and what they will look like.
BTW, the first episode was for the CW kinda what The Walking Dead is for AMC (massively successful):
I like the show so far, but there's a danger of it taking itself a bit too seriously. It needs something to balance the severity of Ollie's mission. "Smallville" had the humanizing element of Clark's very grounded unrequited love for Lana and feelings of alienation and uncertainty. It remains to be seen what "Arrow" will have to fulfill that function. (the stuff on the island certainly doesn't seem as though it will provide much levity or normality)
I'm not the biggest Green Arrow fan, so I'm sure I missed a bunch of references, but I still got a lot of them. Honestly, I find the little nods to comic book history a bit distracting when it's not germane to the plot.
All in all a good start, but not exactly a "must see" yet.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Some pretty cheesy bits in the second episode, but still a fun watch.
Posted by Jerry on :
I tried to watch it, but had a hard time getting into it.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
I dig it, though it is a bit...serious. I don't recall Ollie being quite this intense in the comics, but it's been years since I read them so perhaps my memory is a bit faulty.
I'll be honest with you though...i'm going to keep watching this just for more of those delicious shirtless shots of Ollie.
RAWR.
Posted by Set on :
I'm kinda liking how it's two stories in one. At the moment, I'm intrigued by the mystery of what happened on the island to result in those scars, and also result in Ollie learning to speak Chinese.
(Since it was an island in the south China sea, I suppose it makes sense that he'd run into smugglers or refugee/dissidents or some secret military listening post or whatever from China, out there. Or possibly just a cranky old hermit with a bow...)
Posted by Shining Son on :
Shirtless shots of Ollie are a running theme since Justin Hartley played him in Smallville, and certainly drew me in too. They're all over Manhattan as billboards at the moment.
Aside from his body, I liked the pilot I'm happy to say. Haven't seen the second ep yet. Unfortunately it seems it's no available through On Demand on cable.
Posted by MLLASH on :
The lame-ass CW apparently doesn't do On-Demand. I dvr'ed it but it was interrupted halfway through --right when a big awesome fight was happening-- by a weather report that seemed to go on forever. I'm so annoyed I don't even want to watch the rest on HULU now. I'll read the recap on EW and try again next week.
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
My opinion remains the same after the second episode. The show needs a bit of levity. It appears that there might be some with his burgeoning friendship with Diggs, but the show's still a bit too much about Ollie's righteous crusade.
The island story is certainly getting more intriguing...
Posted by Shining Son on :
At the moment only the pilot was on free Hulu, second ep was only on Hulu+. Fortunately someone there mentioned seeing it on cwtv.com, so I'm caught up.
It being only the second episode I'm fine with he focus staying on the crusade, how far should it have strayed so soon?
A little more surprising is that I haven't even noticed the lack of humor, and I like a fair amount usually, so the writing must be pretty decent so far. Might make any humor they do write all the more effective when it happens. Or maybe not.
Posted by Lard Lad on :
What night does Arrow come on?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Wednesday at 8:00.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
Really enjoyed this third episode! There's just one thing that confuses me. Oliver was apparently a four-time private school dropout before he was stranded on an island for five years. And yet he comes back knowing how to craft high tech arrows, hack Interpol, cure poison, and basically be something akin to a scientist. Now, him learning to be a "weapon" I would buy. But where the hell did he learn all this crap?! Certainly not from his long-bearded Chinese friend on the island.
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Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Really enjoyed Dinah Laurel kicking ass and Ollie letting Diggle in on his secret (it was going to get pretty unrealistic if he didn't soon...)
I think he learned the poison cure stuff from the Chinese guy, but I was wondering how he was able to pick up electronics and Russian on the island.
Ooh... and secret headquarters under a Nightclub? Yes!
Posted by Leap Year Lord on :
Disco HQ? I expect this thread to spontaneously move to the Titans forum.
PS: Markovia.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Really enjoyed Dinah Laurel kicking ass and Ollie letting Diggle in on his secret (it was going to get pretty unrealistic if he didn't soon...)
I think he learned the poison cure stuff from the Chinese guy, but I was wondering how he was able to pick up electronics and Russian on the island.
Ooh... and secret headquarters under a Nightclub? Yes!
I got the feeling that Dig had sort of already figured it out and that he and Ollie were winking at each other about it. I think I would have preferred it stay that way for a few more episodes.
But yeah...i'm hoping that they come up with some sort of explanation as to Ollie's amazing proficiency with electronics and speaking Russian. Chinese makes sense. Russian does not. xD
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Posted by Set on :
Whoever 'they' are that the Chinese dude on the island said were going to kill him sound like the source of his mysterious Russian tattoo / Russian skills / assassin skills. We still haven't seen the 'origin' of his many scars (well, the shoulder one, from the arrow, obviously, but there are quite a few others that he may have gotten after being captured by the men in black with the guns).
Perhaps some sort of Russian 'League of Shadows' branch or covert ops group or something uses the island as a training camp?
I imagine it will start to make sense as stuff is revealed.
Posted by SharkLad on :
Kinda hit or miss for me... feel like it's trying too hard to be "The Dark Knight"... loved Laurel kicking ass though... and looking forward to seeing how they depict Huntress...
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
It is funny that with all the effort that been put since the late 60s to distance GA from the "Batman with a bow and arrow" image, that's the first comparison everyone is drawing in regards to this show.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
You know, the comparison doesn't really bother me much. There are tons of characters with dark pasts who fight crime in ways that could be considered questionable. I don't see why Ollie is so special.
I'm personally hoping for ONE likable female character in the show. So far every girl has been almost completely abrasive save the waitress they introduced last episode and the computer chick.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
love that show. although its completely different from the books, I still enjoy it! esp seeing shirtless Ollie...ah...
Posted by MLLASH on :
Episode 3:
This is more like it-- I was pretty into this episode. Now that a lot of the setup is out of the way, we're getting down to business!
Deadshot looked cool, but I thought it was pretty lucky Oliver was able to pull off the hit he did in between arm-gun rapid fire. Oh well, disbelief suspended, no problem!
Nice to see Dinah Laurel Lance show that she's got a few moves... I foresee a fun Black Canary, hopefully well before season's end!
I felt in love with nerdy hot IT girl and Digg's sister-in-law's line about him adopting 2 white boys was amusing.
The island flashbacks are heating up too.
I'm onboard unless it just goes totally in the crapper somehow.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Computer chick is apparently a Firestorm supporting character. I'm wondering if she'll somehow end up playing an "Oracle"-type role on the show?
Posted by MLLASH on :
I def. think they are setting things up for Oliver to have a support staff, even showing him realizing he can't do certain THANGS alone. Digg's gonna be onboard, Black Canary is coming (I'll bet), and Computer IT Girl will make a GREAT Oracle-ette!!
Posted by Shining Son on :
So what's computer girl's name?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Felicity Smoak.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Posted by Shining Son on :
Interesting that they should snatch her from Firestorm's mythos and put her here.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Well, if I'm right that she's going to take on an "Oracle" role, since they probably couldn't use Barbara Gordon because she's too closely associated with the Bat-mythos, my guess is they probably just searched around for another DC female supporting character associated with computers.
Posted by Shining Son on :
I agree that seems most likely, though I'm almost impressed that they bothered looking through the DCU for one. I guess the comic fans mean more nowadays than they used to.
Just read that Felicity Smoak is Ronnie Raymond's stepmother. Was she ever helping Firestorm on cases, and was she in on his secret?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Shining Son: I agree that seems most likely, though I'm almost impressed that they bothered looking through the DCU for one. I guess the comic fans mean more nowadays than they used to.
It probably has to do with character-ownership issues as much as anything else. If they use an existing DC character, then DC owns the character outright, whereas the situation is often more complicated with characters created specifically for tv shows.
Posted by Shining Son on :
<sigh>
Now that you mention it, that is a far more likely reason. Damn that was silly of me.
Posted by Set on :
Impossible to say really what they were thinking in using a pre-existing DCU character's name for the IT girl. It might have been a 'shout out,' it might have been deliberate, it might have been character-ownership stuff. Maybe even all three...
Somewhat ironically, Chloe Sullivan, an original character for the series, was probably the best thing about Smallville. (Ditto Lionel Luthor, who made far more of a splash than Luthor's original father, 'Jules Thorul'.)
Posted by Shining Son on :
Hard not to make a splash when you've got John Glover.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
FOURTH. EPISODE. WAS. SO. GOOD. So many fun twists and turns and unexpected things! I was expecting the new husband to be a bad guy, but it looks like he's not going to be!
It's a shame though that the only likable female is Felicity Smoak. I don't remember Dinah being NEARLY this unpleasant in the comics, but I guess this isn't quite the same character.
Posted by Set on :
I like that he's moved forward on opening up to Diggle, and that things have come to a head with the police chief who I'm having trouble seeing as anyone other than Harry Dresden.
Click Here For A SpoilerMy 200 quatloos is that Diggle heads back to the lair, dons the green hood and is publically seen shooting some arrows across town, while Ollie is in custody, 'proving' that Ollie can't be the hooded vigilante...
'Robin Hood' and 'the vigilante' are gonna get old, hopefully they start calling him Arrow or Green Arrow soonish, unlike in Smallville, where, ten seasons in, they were still calling him 'the Blur...'
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
quote:Originally posted by Set: I like that he's moved forward on opening up to Diggle, and that things have come to a head with the police chief who I'm having trouble seeing as anyone other than Harry Dresden.
Click Here For A SpoilerMy 200 quatloos is that Diggle heads back to the lair, dons the green hood and is publically seen shooting some arrows across town, while Ollie is in custody, 'proving' that Ollie can't be the hooded vigilante...
'Robin Hood' and 'the vigilante' are gonna get old, hopefully they start calling him Arrow or Green Arrow soonish, unlike in Smallville, where, ten seasons in, they were still calling him 'the Blur...'
I was sort of wondering when they were going to actually give him a name. I don't even think Ollie has named himself.
Click Here For A SpoilerI wouldn't even be willing to bet against you, though anyone with a brain could see the obvious difference in their body structure. Posted by Set on :
In retrospect (having had a day to let the episode perk in my mind), I'm beginning to like the 'brat sister,' Thea. Her character arc is moving *fast,* compared to other shows (where she'd be stuck in the same characterization for multiple seasons). She's gone from bratty high-society wastoid, to flat-out telling Ollie that she felt more able to connect with and condide *in his gravestone* than she ever did his living self, to trying to help him work things through with Laurel, and even gently ribbing him at the end of the episode when she catches him smiling.
"What is that on your face!"
Her heart to heart with her mother, last episode, culminating in her attending a company / family function, rather than ditching to go party with her friends, was also a neat bit of development.
I'm also liking how Ollie's step-dad is playing against assumptions as well.
Laurel is still a bit hit and miss for me. I liked her begrudgingly deciding to play outside of the rules, and the judge kind of hammering it home with 'this isn't a court of justice, it's a court of law', although I didn't like how quickly she changed her mind during the prison fight.
Posted by Shining Son on :
Thea's arc does seem to be moving fast, and as you I like it so far, but it being a tv show, there a huge danger that it's not so much progress as simply the first swing in an eternal pendulum. Much like JR Ewing going from villain to human being and back endlessly.
It was particularly irksome when they did it with Sylar on Heroes. I liked very much that they reformed him, but dammit people at least stick with it for two seasons!
So anyway, cautiously optimistic here.
Posted by Set on :
quote:Originally posted by Shining Son: [QB] Thea's arc does seem to be moving fast, and as you I like it so far, but it being a tv show, there a huge danger that it's not so much progress as simply the first swing in an eternal pendulum. Much like JR Ewing going from villain to human being and back endlessly.
Very true. I hate when a character slingshots back and forth between character growth and being exactly like they were when we first met them. (Which, IMO, is usually a problem with multiple writers, some of whom are still working from the character baseline and failing to account for change that's occured since then, or 'ascended fanboys' getting into the writing and rebooting the character back to the way they liked it best when they became a fan...)
Posted by Shining Son on :
Ah, but much as in comics where I would blame the editor who does have the longer view, on tv I blame the producer. And there's much more money in tv so less excuse for nobody to be paying attention.
Posted by Lard Lad on :
Finally caught the first coupla eps as they suddenly appeared in the On Demand menu of my cable provider. Gotta say: so far, so good!
I like the take they have here on Ollie and his mythos. This is MUCH better than Green Arrow has been in the comics for several years and a much more entertaining and deeper "young Ollie" than what DC launched with the New 52.
Yes, you gotta kind of gloss over some of the stereotypical "Batman" elements and some of the illogical leaps (such as how can a recorded confession from a crook obviously done under violent coersion be used in a court of law?!?!), but the cast is really appealing and all the ongoing plots/subplots engaging.
So how many episodes have aired? On Demand has the first three (will watch the third tonight). Will the fourth air tonight, or is the service missing an ep or two?
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
I think tonight's is the fifth.
Posted by MLLASH on :
TOTES into ARROW!!! I LOVE the fast pacing, which reminds me of another CW show THE VAMPIRE DIARIES... stuff there moves along at a nice pace also.
Yes, we are at 5 episodes. HULU has them all now, but I think 5 is the max they carry at a time (episode 6 will knock off the pilot episode) so catch up quick!
My sole complaint is I'm not seeing Laurel as Black Canary... if that even IS the plan for her. "Horrible fishnets"? *GLARE* Although the Laurel/Ollie kiss scene was TRES HAWT.
And how cool did Deathstroke look?? And next, the Royal Flush Gang!
Posted by Shining Son on :
I'm quite convinced that even if they have a plan for Laurel as Black Canary, they aren't married to it at this point.
Smallville clearly didn't know they were going to do half the cool stuff of later seasons when they were doing the first couple, or they would have foreshadowed much of it. And they had a "Kara" with superpowers early on too.
The old X-Men cartoon thought they were starting after Phoenix Saga (early on Jean said "I had my own dark times" with much gravitas) but couple seasons later, they went ahead and did the saga.
So, kinda doesn't even matter what their plan is at the moment. If the show lasts 6 seasons, Laurel WILL be Black Canary at some point. Assuming they don't kill her off before then.
What am I saying? If they kill her off, she'll DEFINTELY be back as Black Canary.
Posted by Shining Son on :
In fact I wonder if Laurel's mom will show up as Black Canary first.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Another possibility: Laurel's sister showing up as BC or someone else.
Posted by Shining Son on :
I doubt they'll undo her sister's death anytime so, it being roughly akin to Spidey's Uncle Ben. (Not to say never, but not soon.)
But Laurel's mom, also called Dinah (which would explain why everyone uses Laurel's middle name), could in fact be already on the trail of the people who sabotaged the yacht.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I now officially subscribe to this theory.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Shining Son: I doubt they'll undo her sister's death anytime so, it being roughly akin to Spidey's Uncle Ben. (Not to say never, but not soon.)
I dunno... seems to me they intentionally left wide open the possibility that she's alive. To quote one website:
quote: Is Sarah Lance Really Dead? – Ok, so we saw Sarah Lance vanish in the middle of the ocean. No one has heard anything about her in the five years since the accident. She has to be dead, right? Well, this is a series based on a comic book, and people rarely stay dead in comic books. Anytime someone says that they buried an empty coffin, it basically screams that character is secretly alive somewhere being held hostage.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I also now officially subscribe to this theory.
Posted by Lard Lad on :
I really like Laurel, personally. Besides being simply drop-dead gorgeous, I think her complex feelings toward Ollie make perfect sense given their history. So I can understand her being sympathetic one moment and bitchy the next. Love also the relationship between Laurel and her dad. Can't help, though, but think he will end up being Arrow's Captain Stacy when all is said and done, probably sooner than later.
Posted by Shining Son on :
All I'm saying is Sarah's not likely to come back soon. They're milking the guilt-for-Ollie angle too much to give it up this season.
Though as the season cliffhanger, maybe.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I *love* Sonny's theory that Sarah and Laurel's missing mom is going to be Black Canary. That's some good theory!!
Posted by Leap Year Lord on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: And how cool did Deathstroke look??
I thought he looked ridiculous.
Posted by MLLASH on :
Of course your opinion is as valid as anyone's, and-- as is well-documented-- I will be the FIRST to rip on Marv Wolfman's ludicrous creations (like Terry Long, Pariah and Azrael) BUT...
I *do* submit that TV-Deathstroke looked... TOTES TITS.
I present Exhibit A:
Posted by Leap Year Lord on :
Dude, that pic makes his head look like a Red Skull cake gone wrong.
Posted by Lard Lad on :
I bothered me that Slade had two eyes showing....or I guess the eye-loss is still to come?!? It didn't show him suffering the eye injury this past episode did it? And haven't flashbacks to Slade's career pre-eye loss shown him wearing a full orange mask and a half-and-half afterwards?
Otherwise, he looked fine, but the two staring eyes grated on me a little.
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
I hadn't thought about Sarah Lance being alive! Maybe someone will appear and look like her, but no memory - or maybe she'll be an imposter. I'd just as soon she stay dead, though; one came-back-from-the-dead is enough.
Posted by Shining Son on :
Well you know, if the series goes on too long, even Ollie's dad will come back.
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by Leap Year Lord: Dude, that pic makes his head look like a Red Skull cake gone wrong.
Nope!
Posted by Set on :
Five eps in, and I'm still loving it. I like that, with Diggle's criticism, he's being a bit less lethal than in his first appearance. (Since these episodes were probably filmed long before fans reacted with alarm about all the deaths in the first appearance, it seems to have been part of the plan, and not just a hasty response to fan outrage, which is kind of neat, suggesting that the show-writer(s) *intended* for us to see the killing as a flaw to be corrected in Ollie's methods, and sort of 'played' the audience a bit, by letting them think that the writers were deliberately trying to shove a killer Green Arrow down their throats.)
Posted by Leap Year Lord on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH:
quote:Originally posted by Leap Year Lord: Dude, that pic makes his head look like a Red Skull cake gone wrong.
Nope!
Yep, and I'd make a "90% frosting" joke but I'm too lazy.
Gonna call him Cupcake the Terminator though.
Posted by Conjure Lass on :
ARRGGG. I am just so confused now! I thought I had everyone pegged and then they keep acting differently and making me think they aren't who I thought they'd be!
I just cannot, for the life of me, figure out WHO is going to be the "big baddie"! Every time I think I've got it, things CHANGE.
That being said, I love this show.
Posted by Set on :
The road seems pretty clear that Tommy Merlyn is going to be a bad-guy / problem at some point.
He's got it bad for Laurel, who is still hung up on Oliver (and vice versa), but both of them have been giving Tommy the impression that they are over each other, which he's going to regard as a big betrayal when they inevitably end up together...
Momma Queen's obviously in cahoots with badness. (And John Barrowman's nameless character seems to be the head of that particular serpent.)
Deathstroke will likely return eventually, probably with only one remaining eye. I'm not seeing him tied in with the various Starling City bad-guys, so I see him more as a Season 2 threat (unless his mercs are hired to deal with the vigilante threatening their business).
Thea's an odd one. After being spurned, she could go in all sorts of directions.
Detective Lance also remains up in the air. He's got a massive axe to grind, and could even go so far as to turn into a counter-vigilante and begin breaking laws in an attempt to catch the vigilante...
Posted by MLLASH on :
An interesting take on the Royal Flush Gang, not what I expected at all.
I'd like to see the Gang return in Season 2 as a gadget-using crime-pulling "family" of baddies who aren't related. Loved the masks.
Yes, I'm glad I stuck with this show!
Posted by Leap Year Lord on :
Abby Catt sounds so much like a super-villain secret identity.
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
I am liking the show more as it progresses. I agree that they intentionally wanted Ollie to be grim 'n gritty at first and we're seeing him slowly reclaim his humanity - not just in contrast to the grim avenger, but even as a traumatized survivor looking to reconnect with society.
I hadn't realized this analogy until the latest episode, but this series is totally "Hamlet" as super-hero story. (The ghost-dad really hammering it home - Ollie even had his "to be or not to be" moment on the island this ep!) You've got the wayward scion set upon a mission of retribution by a dead father, the mother who remarries soon after the death of the father, the hanging-by-a-thread waif,(sister as opposed to girlfriend in this case) the hero who acts the cad but secretly plotting (opening a nightclub vs. putting on a play) etc... Even the vengeance-filled, yet noble, enemy who blames the hero for the loss of a family member (papa lance mourning his daughter vs. Laertes mourning sister Ophelia)
Also, I have complete faith that we'll see Laurel's sister come back a "opposite side of the coin" type of villain who experiences many of the same trials that Ollie went through, but turning out very differently.... (perhaps even being Deathstroke's apprentice)
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Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
^^Good call on the Hamlet comparison.
Re: Deathstroke, my guess at this point is that he'll probably show up in a "secret identity", so that it may be awhile before we realize that it is the same guy from the island. It would make sense that they would avoid the eye injury so that it won't be as obvious when he shows up.
Posted by Shining Son on :
Well Ollie was away for 5 years, so I wouldn't characterize his mom's remarriage as "soon", but otherwise, yeah, lots of parallels.
Also, just to nitpick, when Mr Queen set his son on this path, he was still alive (for a few more seconds). Which I guess is an option if it's suicide and not murder.
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: ^^Good call on the Hamlet comparison.
Thanks - you should've seen my post comparing HBO's "Deadwood" to Kirby's Fourth World.... Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
The debut of the Huntress plus the revelation of John Barrowman's identity (though I'm not really sure why it was built up as a dramatic mystery) were pretty groovy. I think I would've liked it if they'd gone a little longer without Oliver and Helena learning each other's identities, but I'm really curious where things go with them.
Posted by Set on :
I like that Helena looks to be more than a one-episode wonder like Deadshot and the Royal Flush Gang were.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I'm actually thinking/hoping Huntress joins the cast regularly. That kiss at the end was H-O-T despite not being sloppy.
Posted by Korbal on :
quote:Originally posted by DrakeB3004: Also, I have complete faith that we'll see Laurel's sister come back a "opposite side of the coin" type of villain who experiences many of the same trials that Ollie went through, but turning out very differently.... (perhaps even being Deathstroke's apprentice)
As Ravager or a vengeance-seeking Black Canary?
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
Just watching Episode 6, the Royal Flush Gang episode.
Just saw the L ring they used to track down the high school kid and think it looks very familiar.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
You know what would be really awesome to see on this show?
The Seven Soldiers of Victory.
Most of them can pretty easily fit within the naturalistic tone of the show (the most difficult would be the Shining Knight, I suppose), and how awesome would a pulpy Crimson Avenger be?
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