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Someone revealing themselves to be bisexual is fine. An actor or actress 'revealing' themselves at the most opportune time to help their movie, show, record, career, etc...is opportunistic...thus..poser.
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quote:Originally posted by rickshaw1: Someone revealing themselves to be bisexual is fine. An actor or actress 'revealing' themselves at the most opportune time to help their movie, show, record, career, etc...is opportunistic...thus..poser.
Except that -
a) Anna Paquin has been a working actress since she was like 9 years old so when hasn't she had a movie/TV show on the go? (By your rationale no actor/actress/musician can come out until they are retired lest they be considered opportunistic.)
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b) Other than the X-Men films, True Blood is probably the most successful, highly-visible thing she's ever done. And it already gets a ton of promotion. If she was just a "poser" coming out for publicity wouldn't it have made more sense for her to do it for one of her lesser-advertised, more obscure projects?
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Plus, even if she was coming out for opportunistic reasons - she's still coming out as bisexual. Not "maybe I'm gay, maybe I'm not". Bisexuals may find that kind of terminology condescending/offensive.
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Bisexuals are mythical beings, Blacula. Like unicorns and cicadas. Didn't you get the memo?
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Blacula, anyone can find anything offensive at anytime. I continue to find the the current fad in hollywood of pretending to switchhit for a while and announcing it to the media for bumps in popularity ratings annoying, irritating, and asinine.
As to bisexuality, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I tend to believe, as do more than a few of the gay people that I know personally, that either you is or you isn't. That may be offensive to some, but thats the way I believe. I don't expect you or anyone else to believe that way, and I'm not trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking and don't really think enough of it to be converted, either.
I simply find it suspicious and more than a little irritating when hollywood types make such "announcements" while in a big push for their movie/show/album...etc. Yes, thats my reasoning. However, before you go all overboard on what a horrible human being I am...I'm just tired of it. I'm not looking for legislation, I'm not asking for referendums, I'm just Me Personally tired of it.
I'm also a guy that doesn't watch the latest hollywood gossip shows, I don't read enquirer, I don't care who that kate chick is that has a bunch of kids, I don't wanna hear about brad and angela's love life and how jen is trying to win her back...I really hate that crap and think its contributing to the stupidifying(Yes, a made up word, but I cannot think of anything that better expresses how much I loathe that stuff) of America and all points north, south, east and west. And when, through no fault of my own, I actually HAVE to hear or see this stuff, it irks the hell outta me.
Fair enough?
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You made a comment that a lot of bisexual people (who do exist by the way. at the fact that you or your gay friends think you have more of a right/knowledge/capactiy to tell someone what they are than they themselves do) may find offensive/condescending. I was just pointing out that fact lest you risk offending them in the future.
If you don't care that your words may offend someone... well, that's not only against the terms of the user agreement at Legion World, it's also a pretty rotten way to behave. Why not just treat everyone with respect?
I agree with your final paragraph about being sick of Kate Gosselin and her kids and all that tawdry tabloid-gossip type stuff - but what's that got to do with our current topic of discussion?
Surely you're not equating all that crap with the news of someone of Anna Paquin's stature coming out as bisexual? Despite what you may think, 'out' gay/lesbian/bisexual celebrities are still a very rare breed in the world and therefore the very fact of their coming out still has the ability to help lonely/closeted/in-denial gay/lesbian/bisexual people around the world be OK with their sexuality.
That kind of news is very different to whether or not Britney Spiers was wearing underwear on her night out or not.
Since Anna Paquin is also the only working celebrity that I can think of who has come out in recent years, I'm wondering who have given all the rest of these 'annoucements' that have gotten you so sick of celebrities coming out. Ricky Martin? I thought you'd be OK with that one since he's practically retired now. Has there been anyone else? I'm honestly asking because I don't know of any.
P.S. I don't think you're a horrible human being.
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quote:...As to bisexuality, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I tend to believe, as do more than a few of the gay people that I know personally, that either you is or you isn't...
So your belief in absolutes trumps the RL experience of people who you don't know?
Bisexuals deal with this kind of attitude all the time. Its prevalence doesn't, however, make it correct.
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Personally, I believe there are bisexuals out there, as I don't really think all these people who say they are, are doing it just for that reason, to say it. That, and it wouldn't really make sense for them to cover up their homosexuality by saying they swing both ways when they can just as easily say they are heterosexuals, although, this could just be so they can still date people of their sex and appear to be able to date people of the opposite sex... but they would have to deal with just as much criticism.
But anyway,
... people who act like idiots on public buses.
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You made a comment that a lot of bisexual people (who do exist by the way. [LOL] at the fact that you or your gay friends think you have more of a right/knowledge/capactiy to tell someone what they are than they themselves do) may find offensive/condescending. I was just pointing out that fact lest you risk offending them in the future.
I don't think I have more of a right/knowledge/capacity...I just believe what I believe. I believe that quite a few little starlets and wannabe's ( anne Heche anyone?) are right now doing the fad of "experimenting" when they are really straight and know it. But, its the rage to say that they are "bi".
As to being offensive....I won't go into the times I've seen stuff here posted about conservatives that, if I wanted too, I could take as "offensive". I show people the ultimate respect, I don't try to tell them what they should or shouldn't be or believe. I repeated said its the way "I" think and I don't expect others to think the same way. I also like steak and hamburgers. That pisses off PETA. Too Bad. Many people here think I'm a dumb redneck hick. Okay. If you go around your entire life and try not to "offend", then you are a shell of a person that has no personal convictions and will fall inline with just about anything. I'm sure those bisexuals have beliefs that I could find offensive...okay. Those are their's. Don't sweat the small stuff. And ultimately, my opinion matters less that buttbarnacles to them.
If you don't care that your words may offend someone... well, that's not only against the terms of the user agreement at Legion World, it's also a pretty rotten way to behave. Why not just treat everyone with respect?
I give people the ultimate respect. I let them live by their words and beliefs. I expect the same in return. Its not a rotten way to live. I don't go out of my way to insult or aggrieve anyone. I have no desire to, this is a great place and I respect it. I hope it goes BOTH ways.
I agree with your final paragraph about being sick of Kate Gosselin and her kids and all that tawdry tabloid-gossip type stuff - but what's that got to do with our current topic of discussion?
If you go back and read you will find it linked in that its all "hollywood crap" as far as I am concerned. Hollywood is the land of phoneyville. Its make believe land. It is a place based on selling 'playing pretend', and has about as much real substance as a gnat poot in a hurricane. I don't like the "emotion porn" reality shows, I don't like the "Hey everyone, look at me, I'm doing this weeks latest fad thing for publicity..." characters that populate the entertainment machine.
Surely you're not equating all that crap with the news of someone of Anna Paquin's stature coming out as bisexual? Despite what you may think, 'out' gay/lesbian/bisexual celebrities are still a very rare breed in the world and therefore the very fact of their coming out still has the ability to help lonely/closeted/in-denial gay/lesbian/bisexual people around the world be OK with their sexuality.
That kind of news is very different to whether or not Britney Spiers was wearing underwear on her night out or not.
hate to say it this baldly, but...only to those to whom it matters because they are in it. I have no doubt that it matters to gay/lesbian/bisexual people all over the world that Sean Hayes, Anne Heche, Anna Paquin, Ricky Martin, Portia Rossi, Doogie Howser (The best Flash by far so far as I am concerned) have come out. And I'm happy that people I know have people to...what...admire, look up to, give a path to follow?...but I don't relate to that need to have someone to look up to, straight, gay, professional, amatuer, sports, work...what have you.
Since Anna Paquin is also the only working celebrity that I can think of who has come out in recent years, I'm wondering who have given all the rest of these 'annoucements' that have gotten you so sick of celebrities coming out. Ricky Martin? I thought you'd be OK with that one since he's practically retired now. Has there been anyone else? I'm honestly asking because I don't know of any.
P.S. I don't think you're a horrible human being. [Smile]
Thanks. I hope I'm not. I know that I'm a little less polished and more straightforward than most people though. Its why I have to be so longwinded on explanations sometimes.
What i was saying in my own, bad, way, was that I thought it was a little bit insulting to people that actually ARE gay/lesbian/bi for people to be doing the Fad thing about a lifestyle that they aren't in by choice, but by their own personal proclivities, and trying to use it to make a buck.
As to being "bi", most of the people I know that have claimed to be bi in real life, eventually settle on one gender specifically, but not necessarily on one life partner. That to me means "either you is or you isn't".
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