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...PATRIOT!

The first of the spotlights shining on members of the YOUNG AVENGERS team that've been shunted to the wings by their creator's duties in Hollywood and Marvel's reluctance to let anyone else direct their actions.

This one features a couple of meetings between Bucky Barnes, before he assumes his new role of CAPTAIN AMERICA. The pair discuss their visions of America as compared to that of the late Steve Rogers.

There's a scene where Hawkeye and Wiccan (please change that name!) help Patriot track down Mr. Barnes that's nice to see.

The previous PATRIOT is referenced. I'd forgotten about him, frankly. That was a nice nod.

I'm glad to see these hit the stands, but the snippet of the characters together really made me want to read the adventures of these teens as a *group*.

Hulkling's oughtta be good, if they address any Skrull Invasion stuff at all. And Wiccan and Speed dealing in some way with Wanda, though not directly?

They're keeping the sixth issue a mystery, I believe. I wonder why?

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I guess I can understand not wanting any other creative handle the YA... because the first series was EXCELLENT. But I *was* glad to see YAP hit the stands.

Perhaps Heinberg (I know I'll never spell it right) had time to knock off some YAP scripts during the recent writer's strike?

Anyhoo, I really enjoyed this issue and the nod to the Liberty Legion Patriot as well. This writer seems like a good choice for more YAP stories.

Let's get Stature as well as Thor Girl out of the Initiative and onto YA (with apologies to the fantabulous Dan Slott)! Maybe the mystery issue # 6 will re-unite the team....?

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Patriot was a good lead-off for this mini. I had some misgivings about Paco Medina on art, but this was above and beyond what I've seen from him previously. No Jimmy C, but more than adequate. Bru was a natural to write this issue, and I loved the nods to Cap history and Bucky's appearance. And yeah, the nod to Jeff Mace as the original Patriot and 50's Cap was awesome... Bru Rules!!!

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I liked this issue as well. Really wanting more stories of the team.

So who are the other issues going to be about? Aside from the mysterious sixth issue.

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Sixth issue is Hawkeyes, by Matt Fraction & Alan Davis as I recall.

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Alan Davis? I may end up buying it, then.

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YA Presents... HULKLING!

I liked the opening, with Teddy making the "I'm Teddy Altman" intro that we see in comics from time to time while rehearsing how he'll introduce himself to his father, not just to the reader.

Most of the issue is a heartfelt conversation between a man who isn't ready to be a father and a son who's eager to have a father. Some interesting things are touched upon and said, but it all leads up to a last page that was, I thought, quietly heartbreaking.

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So I heard the Wiccan/Speed issue came out, any thoughts?

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I liked it, especially the Wiccan/Hulkling parts. Speed is so Bart/early Impulse, he's all over the place.

I wish the twins had found Wanda.

I have but haven't yet read the VISION issue.

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Anybody read the Hawkeye issue? I only bought it because of Alan Davis -- I'm an Alan Davis completist. I was afraid he might do a half-hearted job like on those Chris Claremont issues of Uncanny X-Men from a few years ago, but, happily, Davis did a great job with the art. And I'm hoping this might expand Davis's fanbase, especially with younger readers.

That's why I regret having to say that I still found myself unable to care about Hawkeye or any of the other Young Avengers.

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I liked the HAWKEYE issue quite a bit. It's mostly a bit of soap opera, but that's not a negative to me, at any rate.

SPEED gets a nice bit of needed focus, as well as Kate and Eli. And the 'guest-star', Clint Barton/Ronin/Hawkeye 1.

Not surprisngly, Clint puts Kate through her paces... leading to a passing the torch/welcome to the fold sort of scene.

Clint's the perfect character to champion these young heroes- as evidenced poignantly (I thought) by the gift he chooses for Kate. (Besides the bow...)

I'm glad to have read these 'solo' issues, but Marvel *really* needs to give the YOUNG AVENGERS the series they deserve. Their foot-dragging creator be hanged.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mystery Lad:
It's mostly a bit of soap opera, but that's not a negative to me, at any rate.

It's not a negative to me, either, I just don't find the characters interesting.

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Clint's the perfect character to champion these young heroes- as evidenced poignantly (I thought) by the gift he chooses for Kate.

The gift was a nice touch, but it did unintentionally underline my problem with these characters -- I feel like I've seen all this before; I'm not interested in young legacy versions of the so-called "definitive" Avengers, I want fresh new characters. And if that seems a contradiction of my love for Green Lantern and the pre-Ross JSA, I would say that the DCU is where I want things safe and familiar and comforting while the MU is where I want things constantly evolving (I may not like most of the ways the MU has evolved over the past four years -- X-Factor being the exception -- but at least it's evolving, instead of having aging fanboys trying to recreate their favorite Marvel eras. YA feels like it's the one corner where things are safe and familiar, which is probably why it doesn't appeal to me, but it does appeal to fans of aging fanboys...etc.)

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The fact that these are legacy versions of familiar character is a new thing for Marvel. When the series began, it was heralded as fulfilling a similar role for the MU as the Teen Titans do for DC.

That's a change, if not exactly 'evolution'. Maybe a sort of sideways evolution.

Though their heroic personae may not be ground-breaking, I think the characterizations of Eli, Billy and Teddy *are* fresh and exciting. Maybe Tommy, too. Cassie and Kate are, perhaps, a bit more familiar-- but still well presented, so far. The young Vision hasn't really come through as a distinct character, for me. And, if SI is any indication, he may never get the chance (though he *is* the Red Tornado of the MU-- or vice versa).

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quote:
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The fact that these are legacy versions of familiar character is a new thing for Marvel. When the series began, it was heralded as fulfilling a similar role for the MU as the Teen Titans do for DC. That's a change, if not exactly 'evolution'. Maybe a sort of sideways evolution.

That's really stretching it IMO. I'm still not convinced.

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Though their heroic personae may not be ground-breaking, I think the characterizations of Eli, Billy and Teddy *are* fresh and exciting. Maybe Tommy, too. Cassie and Kate are, perhaps, a bit more familiar-- but still well presented, so far.

I repeat, I don't find any of them interesting. To provide a comparison, I think Layla Miller outshines them all -- even as a hallucination.

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I love Alan Davis. I especially appreciate his "Easter egg" here with Kate's dress at the bar. I recognized it as Clint's Hawkeye outfit from AVENGERS #100-- check out the "H" on her belt when they're leaving the joint to go get her bow back. I was geeked! [LOL] It lookes better on Kate than it ever did on Clint.

Not sure how I feel about the underaged drinking, other than giving cred to Speed's "bad boy" reputation.

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