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Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
I loved it, definitely worlds beyond All-Star Bats. The bizzare sci-fi fantasy of it just blew me away. I think I can smell Grant Morrison's imagination enhancers all the way over here.

Some things should never change. Clark is bumbling, Lois never shuts up, and Lex is pure evil. While there's tons of "classic Superman" elements, the last page shows that this will be no rehash of the silver-age.

The only thing I didn't like was Lois' look. I though she looked too young.
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
I'm looking forward to finally seeing this in color. Just two more days....
 
Posted by Haggard Lad on :
 
All-Star Superman is the best Superman story in the last 20 years (Action Comics #775 comes close).

I couldn't have asked for a better Superman story! It rocked my world!
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
I agree, best superman in a long time.

The internet seems pretty polarized on this one though.
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
I would expect that to be the case.

Any critiques worth mentioning?
 
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
Can't wait to check this out myself. Despite some people not liking him, Grant Morrison is one of the few creators in comics I'd buy close to anything for, i.e. his upcoming WildCats.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Just read it and loved it. Reminded me totally of Chris Reeve's version, the same emotion. Still not sold on Quitely's art though. Never have been. But I'll definitely stick around as long as Morrison is on board writing.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
I thought it was groovalicious except for the annoyingly exaggerated builds of the characters. I mean... it's bad enough that Superman's Clark Kent disguise consists of a change of clothes and some glasses, but how can anyone not recognize him considering he's the only other person on the planet with the horribly unnatural build that Superman has?

[ November 19, 2005, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Eryk Davis Ester ]
 
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
 
I liked it as well. The exaggerated science fiction was really good. I've never liked Superman and I gotta say this silver agey setting is the best for him. As for the rest of the DCU? No. [Smile] Superman should be exaggerated, bright, etc. Morrison has hit the mark and I enjoyed the art.

Would Lois were a skirt that short??? doh!
 
Posted by Stargazer on :
 
I liked it as well. Was a little put off by the cover. I just dont like it but thankfully the inside was what counted. I am in!
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
What did ever think of the Willy Wonka-like philanthropist? I am intruigued by the guy, people on the 'net seemed to think that he's a little over the top.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
What did ever think of the Willy Wonka-like philanthropist? I am intruigued by the guy, people on the 'net seemed to think that he's a little over the top.

I thought he was interesting. And very much Willy Wonka-like. Seemed to have the same excitement for the different sciences he was working with as Wonka did for candy.
 
Posted by Star Boy on :
 
I loved this comic! More! [Big Grin]
And it wasn't until I was describing the Rainbow-coated Doctor to a friend that I realised his Wonka-ness... I mentioned the coat and cane and then went, well, he's just like- and my friend and I said it together: Willy Wonka. Hehehehehe. I wonder if the similarity was intentional?
 
Posted by Jorg-EM on :
 
I thought the Willy Wonka guy was a bit over the top. Atleast his costume was...his actual dialogue I didn't have a prob with.
 
Posted by lil'rhino on :
 
Faboo! Faboo! Faboo!

Can't wait for the Legion app!!
 
Posted by RTVU2 on :
 
Count me in as loving the first issue too. I also rally loved the Quietly cover too. Morrison can do no wrong.
 
Posted by Caliente on :
 
At the risk of being unpopular...

(I didn't like it.)

But I am neither a Morrison nor a Superman fan, so I don't think that should shock anyone.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I'm... not sold yet.

I expected a lot of silver-age-esque nonsense and insead got a lot of new-age mumbo-jumbo.

Yes, there's a difference.

Gonna give it at least 6 issues.
 
Posted by STU on :
 
I haven't liked Quitely's art in the past (some of his X-Men stuff made me cringe), but I thought it was OK here. I didn't quite grok the story (with the Wonka-esque scientist), but I'll give it a few more issues... which is more than I gave All-Star Batman and Robin.

Jim Lee's art just doesn't do anything for me these days. It's technically proficient, but boring... I dropped that title after the first issue.
 
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
 
It's ok so far. I don't have a strong reaction one way or the other.

The best Superman story in the last ten years, imo (since we're all using superlatives here) was "Superman for All Seasons" - I was blown away by that one.
 
Posted by Don Jorge del Oeste on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MLLASH:
I'm... not sold yet.

I expected a lot of silver-age-esque nonsense and insead got a lot of new-age mumbo-jumbo.

Yes, there's a difference.

Gonna give it at least 6 issues.

LOL, that's really funny. new-age mumbo-jumbo is this decades version of silver-age-esque nonsense! Thank the syncretism gods! [Wink]
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
Loved it even more now that I've seen it in color.

I'm not the biggest Quitely fan, either, but somehow his style works here, especially on Clark Kent.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
What? No one read #2? Maybe not as good as issue #1 but I still loved it. I definitely want to see more of this Morrison version around.

And was that a Legion timebubble I spotted as well as a Sun-Eater? Seems like an AR book to me.
 
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
 
What I like about the general feel is that I dn't mind if they do silver age sillines story. Maybe THAT is what is missing in comics these days. But it's a seperate universe and I say experiment.

The main DCU has it's own tone and it's all under one label. I think Morrisson has a good idea here. Gotta read #2. I admit when I saw the cover of Lois Lane in a costume I cringed...but what the heck?! It's all fun right?!
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I did read # 2.

I enjoyed it more than # 1, actually.

Next issue I am particlarly looking forward to.
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
I loved #1.

This was better.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Maybe I'll have to read it again when I'm not so exhausted. Not that it was bad by any means, one of the best books this month, better than LSH #13. But I didn't enjoy it as much as #1.
 
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
 
Honestly, I was underwhelmed (as I am with All-Star Batman). There are some cute tidbit references here and there, but nothing in this story is drawing me in. I might give it one more issue.
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
Issue three came out, my only comic purchase of the week. Fortunately it was fun enough to make up for the sad realities of a month with 5 Wednesdays.

Click Here For A SpoilerBiblical Characters, Lizard Men, Super Lois, Greek Demigods and Egyption Mythological beings all appear. Backdrops include Metropolis, the center of the earth, the surface of the Moon and Atlantis... All this trouble to get a date with Lois.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Could this series possibly get any better?

And am I the only one who wants to see an All-Star Time-Travelling Samson and Atlas spinoff series?
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
I for one demand to see Samson's chronomobile and Atlas' perfumed love chariot.

But is the timestream ready for the Storied Swingin' Strongmen of Song?
 
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
This might just be the best comic on the market right now. When I finish it, I actually feel really good.

Grant Morrison was born to write All-Star Superman.

The ending of #3 was very sweet, and I've really warmed up to Quitely's Lois.
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
This issue only lacked Lois kicking serious butt as Superwoman.

Other than that, it was brilliant.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
And next issue is the Jimmy Olsen issue! I'm stoked!
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
The only bad thing about this series is the waiting between issues... We need to clone Frank Quitely (about 20 times) and Grant Morrison (once or twice) so this can come out weekly. Do you hear me, National Science Foundation? Fulfil your mandate.

Seriously, I cant remember reading a comic with such a smile on my face the whole time.
 
Posted by disaster boy on :
 
this is one of my recent favs.

hate morrison. like him here so far but, im sure theres a ledge somewhere. maybe i just need to think of his stories outside of continuity...or as not a big deal, just a self contained good story.

not usually a big fan of supes.

love quietly's art.
 
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
 
This title is lots of fun. I loved Samson and Atlas. Loved the art. Only Morrison can take this old corny stories and make them fun again...unlike other writers who force the old stories down our throats...and they are just corny with an edge. *ahem*

The art was awesome.
 
Posted by Star Boy on :
 
Issue #3 was a blast - Samson and Atlas as fellow 'Super-Men' was inspired. The dialogue was perfect - I loved Lois' tired acceptance of her diminishing powers.
This is a good comic. [Yes]
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
No comments yet on #4? I thought it was pretty groovy, if not *quite* as excellent as the previous issue. But it definitely captured the feel of a classic Jimmy Olsen story!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
I won't get my copy until July 1. But I'll be ready as I've been reading my Superman Family Showcase.
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
#4 definitely wasn't as good as the previous 3 issues but there were still enough crazy Morrison seeds and quality Quitely art in it to make it enjoyable.

All Star Superman is probably my surprise #1 comic at the moment! Before Seven Soldiers I thought Grant Morrison was THE most overrated writer on the planet, but everything he's done since then has been gold. Not just gold. Platinum!

I wish this series came out weekly! And I can't wait to see what fun elements from the Superman mythos he incorporates next!
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
Revisiting the question of how Lucy sticks with the fashion challenged Jimmy? Add Bits of modern Superman continuity re-imagined into a silvery-age context. What's not to like?
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
The Lucy-Jimmy scenes were the best part of the story. Something just didn't quite do it for me about the rest of it, but it's hard to put my finger on exactly what. Of course, by "didn't quite do it for me" I mean it wasn't as awe-inspiring as the previous issues. It's still one of the best comics I've read this month.
 
Posted by Stratum on :
 
It was Jimmy's hair....what was up with that godawaful haircut?

Jamie
 
Posted by Star Boy on :
 
Loved it loved it loved it.

Doomsday Olsen - more P.R.O.J.E.C.T. babble - a very cool future-retro Jimmy - and so many little gems.
I think this may be my favourite title. [Smile]
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
I thought it was great.

I'm not sure what it means that I had to explain to several people at my comic shop that Morrison hadn't up and made Olsen transgendered.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
"...and then the inimitable Lex Luthor opened up the floor and shook hands with a baboon in a Superman suit..."

This series continues to be incredible!
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
Lex Luthor is the smartest man on Earth, except for the one...

But you can tell that Clark was at the very limit of his guile to stay that one step ahead of him.
 
Posted by Gorilla Nebula on :
 
any other supergirl fans notice "Nasty" at the end as the old supergirl foe and Luthor's neice? are we getting an all-star supergirl guest-star issue? can the LSH be far behind???
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
I didn't realise Nasty was a pre-established character. Where/when did she first appear?

P.S. Still loving All Star Superman! As EDE says - it is incredible! Absolute comic goodness in every issue!
 
Posted by Gorilla Nebula on :
 
check out this link for more obscure info on "nasty"...
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/obscure/n.htm
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
Thanks GN. What a great site!
 
Posted by doublechinner on :
 
This book is amazing. Distilled on every page is the stuff that makes Superman and his supporting cast fun. It's just an amazing accomplishment, and a welcome alternative to big event storytelling.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Looks like Bizarro for ASSM #7!!
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
Looks like Bizarro for ASSM #7!!

Which now won't be out until Feb. 14, 2007.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
I doubt that it makes that date. ASSM #6 isn't due out until early January.
 
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
Ah, this breaks my heart to hear. [Frown]
 
Posted by CJ Taylor on :
 
Planetary and Rising Stars killed it for me. Both good books, but the interminable wait was too much for me. I'm not sticking around for books like ASSM or ASB&RTBW.
 
Posted by Blacula on :
 
Even though I just ranted and raved about how I wasn't putting up with delayed books anymore after the bitter disappointments that were the Seven Soldiers finale and the last 10 or so Planetary issues (which took about 4 years to come out)... I <whisper> have no intention of dropping this book. Its just too damn good! The fact that every issue is a self-contained story is a big help too! Waiting months between issues is much more palatable when there's nothing important you need to be remembering.
 
Posted by Uranus Lad on :
 
This is possibly one of my favorite books out there right now. It's one of the few titles I pick up and actually have a feeling of satisfation when I'm done. I don't think I've read and actual Superman comic in decades prior to this (and that goes double for that deplorable Death of Superman fiasco). But Morrison and Quitely are one of my favorite teams. Hell, I'd even read Teen Titans if they were doing it.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
Issue six is out but I won't get my copy for another couple of weeks. Anyone pick it up yet? Is this supposed to be our Legion issue?
 
Posted by Director Lad on :
 
It's not a Legion ish, but it does feature some heroes from the future. No spoilers from me, but this was the best issue yet. Morrison remains my favorite writer out there right now.
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
It is a Superboy/Young Superman issue. It also contained elements of the DC One Million Superman. I enjoyed it very much.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
I guess I wasn't clear. I know the Legion doesn't make an appearance as such but was this intended to be Morrison's idea of the Legion? Did we get shortchanged?
 
Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
 
I don't think anyone would think "Legion" from this issue. There is a Click Here For A Spoiler"Supermen descendants who fix problems with time" Squad
 
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
 
Click Here For A SpoilerMostly it was a "Superman getting a chance to say goodbye to Jonathon Kent before he dies" issue. With time travel and a few Superman descendants to add to the story.

It was a homage to every other non-Legion Silver Age Superman tale. I highly doubt that this is the Legion All Star Superman story.
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
That makes me feel better. All I was hearing was it was three teens from the future, chasing a villain and giving Kent an insight to his life as Superman. Sort of sounds like the New Kids in Town episode of the animated Superman.
 
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
 
Nah. Not even close. More in the vein of this -

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Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
 
Another fantastic issue.

This is still one of the best books out there now.

And Krypto rocks.
 
Posted by Arachne on :
 
Krypto's in it!? Damn. Do you know when it comes out in trade?
 
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
 
The hard cover comes out in April. Amazon is taking pre-orders at a 32% discount.
 
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
I've just begun reading four weeks of comics. I can already tell you what will win out of all four:

All-Star Superman #6. Perhaps the best Superman story I've ever read. Definately one of the best comic books I read in years. I admit it: I teared up.

It's official: Morrison is probably my favorite comic book writer (Darwyn Cooke is in a category of his own). This issue was so good that I'll probably reread it many, many times in the future.

I'm proud to be a Superman fan right now.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Jillikers! I can't wait to pick this up!

You know... I'm almost to the point of no longer reading any superhero comics other than All-Star Superman and The Spirit, as everything else just pales in comparison to these two!
 
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
You're going to be blown away Eryk. It *is* that good.
 
Posted by Arachne on :
 
I'll have to try and get it this week. I hope it's not sold out.
 
Posted by Uranus Lad on :
 
Another awesome issue. Does anyone think the solid gold Superman at the end is none other than distant-future Kal-El himself? It's kind of hinted at.
 
Posted by Arachne on :
 
That was my take on it. Good story. I liked how it managed to have the feel of a silver age story, but without being corny.
 
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
Yeah its him from the 853rd century, as seen in the DC One Million X-Over.

Reading it for the umpteenth time I still cant believe how well written this was. Its a Superman story that's been told many times but GM's version is right up there with the best of them.
 
Posted by Uranus Lad on :
 
Never saw the One Million except for the Legion one which I got accidentally and it really kind of sucked.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Wow. I just read it.

Amazing.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
One word (to be taken in its silver-age comics context, not a sports fan context) sums it up: *choke!*

Quitely's art can be deceptively simple.

Mirrison's borrowing some ideas from Alan Moore's run on SUPREME and giving them a tweak.

Probably the best issue yet.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
New Issues Preview up at Newsarama!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Hmm... I wasn't really all that impressed by #7.

I found it kind of confusing and hard to follow. To the extent that when I reached the title page, inexplicably place like four pages before the end, I wondered for a moment if the pages were out of order or something.

Anyway, the take on the Bizarros was kind of interesting, but not all that exciting. I appreciated seeing the crew from Planet, but the Chief looked kind of weird.
 
Posted by Uranus Lad on :
 
EDE I agree. In fact to me the whole issue seemed to be a prelude and a bit confusing (still cant make head nor tail out of that very first panel)and maybe the title page should have been the last page.

I loved the fact that the Planet staffer (argh! can't recall his name) was immune to the Bizarro virus due to the "performance enhancement" drugs he's taking. ...Maybe I should respond to those SPAM e-mails after all.
 
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
 
This was my least favorite AS Superman issue yet till the last page that is. Zibarro made things more interesting but before that it just seemed to drag on.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I'll agree this issue was VERY hard to follow.

I also found it distracting that it was set at Christmastime... now that it's APRIL.

[ April 28, 2007, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: MLLASH ]
 
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
 
Over at Newsarama Grant gave a 52 exit interview. They asked if he ever felt in a pinch and he stated there was one month he did. ASM #8 was one.

He also said all his other work suffered b/c of 52. Guess we can chalk last issue as a 52 victim.
 
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
Just read #10 and it might have been the second best issue of thes eries (the first being the previously applauded #6). A great issue with some really dynamic moments and yet another misty-eyed moment at the end.

Grant used the Superman Emergency Rescue Squad and the "little Superman coming out of his hand" bits and turned them into one of the most heartfelt panels of 2008.

This series is amazing. Its just so far ahead of most of the market.
 
Posted by googoomuck on :
 
All-Star Superman # 12 is out now. IMHO the best 12 issue run of Superman.
 
Posted by Pov on :
 
I can't wait to get this with my EOM shipment from DCBS.
 
Posted by Stu Rat on :
 
This last issue was -- by turns -- clever, bizarre, thought-provoking, incomprehensible, and beautiful. In other words, typical Morrison stuff.

The ending definitely leaves open a number of possibilities for continuing the story in the future.
 
Posted by Dev Em on :
 
Finally got to read this entore thing as a whole.

Best Superman Tale in a long while. Deserves all the praise it got.

I loved the way that Jimmy was portrayed.
 


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